I wonder if that has to do with Bitmain's "Control your miner via the Cloud" service that they used to link to on their site. Just looked and do not see it anymore offhand. The s9 does not have a GUI setting for it, I'll check some s7's at work manyana. Think the S5 and s7 even have something in the GUI about setting access to that service. AFAIK Bitmain never activated it. While definitely think it would be BAD idea to give Bitmain or subsidiary that access, I still tried a few times in the past to see what it was about. |
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Ok i identified the problem, was 1 of the 3 cards
I switched the bb board and the io board and the miner hanged up after 1 min, then i removed all the boards, and plugged just 1, everything was fine, the s7 was mining ok, then i inserted the 2nd board the miner hanged up after 50-70 seconds, i removed the 2nd board and inserted the 3rd board, and everything is running smooth now
So 1 of the 3 boards is making the miner hang up, dont know why, the miner was new, it only worked for 5 days
Are you handy with a PIC programmer? As a shot in the dark, the 1min delay suggests that is related to the lower Hot Vcore voltage applied after the chips are warmed up after the initial (and higher) Vcore is applied -- for 1 minute -- to get them near normal operating temps. Use Sidehacks instruction for undervolting the s7 but instead play with different higher power settings. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504228.msg15133282#msg15133282 |
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Got email saying my b13 s9 has shipped today.
So dem bones are still bouncing around. Especially since it my 7th s9, hoping they come up 7 or 11 vs snake eyes...
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Well im thinking that Kano working on this would be a conflict of interest being as he is in tight with avalon. Im sure they dont want him to jump on this nor does he want to bite himself in foot by helping us being as its for a bitmain miner. I think getting kano approval even if its up to gpl standards is going to be a stretch on this one. I think we are on our own folks. My coin is still available if/when fubly pulls thru.
best regards
d57heinz
If that is how Kano views it (conflict of interest) he should be up front and say that. We know how he feels about Bitmain in general. For that I can't blame him as they have been less than honorable towards GPL. Not mention that I doubt they ever donated to him for the software they use in their commercial product. But tie that to him working with Avalon and you get: no way in hell will it ever be approved by him. So much for the idea of him accepting Community extensions to his software  |
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Thanks FUBLY for the update. Clever decission of you to keep this as transparrent as possible.
OP has been updated.
I will keep my promise and donate 0.55BTC
Please do a me favor and publish peoples donations here in the forum.
Itīs a payment and payments are private. If people want they can publish it here. I added this to my donation page: If you make a donation, please let the community know if you want. We will never publish any payment you made. For the record I sent Fubly my original donation sans the tx fee pretty much as soon as it was returned from the escrow. Partly to support this effort and mainly to tick off Kano regarding his very biased attitude to the matter. https://blockchain.info/tx/cb097d00459918b531dd6611baf642e33c2113da599bb4a6f1f28fdaec0ec924 |
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As I understand design if a chip fails that board can go down completely.
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Not always. My 2 blade miner with one X  View original size - Click on the picturethat has yet to happen to me with the s-9. used to happen with s-7 s-5 s-3 s-1 and with every one of them a lower freq would bring it back. but I suppose you tried a lower freq to see if the x comes back. say 593.75 or 587.50? On the 1 chip failing bring down the whole board: Depends on how it fails. There is a coms section that to some extent is separate from the SHA hashing cores. As long as the chip as a whole has not blown then you see x's because data is making it through it to the rest of the string, just not being hashed in the x chips. If the entire power area inside the chip fails or something else equating to the same thing -- game over for the board. |
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is there a hardware different between 12.95 and 11.85 batches ?
or it just down clocked
It can be argued that just like CPU families have different speeds, Bitmain has done some Binning to classify the chips into different expected (and hopefully ?tested?) performance groups. Doesn't mean they are 'bad' chips. Just that normal various variations in the wafer/die manufacturing means they want to run at a slower speed to keep HW errors down. Since at least per-board all the ASIC's need to perform the same you get the different batches. You get faster or slower miners and pay accordingly, they sell more 'usable' chips with fewer complaints. Doesn't meant the slower miners can't run faster -- they just will not say it can so if trouble with it their ass is covered. Even so, I get the 'faster' ones just for the under clock margin to lower chip temps.... |
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@ Fubly: <giggle> I used Google translate.  check your pm |
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Cost is why I suggest filing with the FTC. IF the gov thinks there is is a valid case they bear the burden of pursing it. If the infringement is as cut and dry as Kano et al say, then given the size of Bitmain's market I'd think the FTC and their counterparts in other countries would be very interested. Would certainly make for some nice headlines Does the FTC ever enforce copyright law? I thought it's up to individual copyright holders to enforce their rights. And it's probably even less likely outside of the US. Yes, they do and generally like to publicize it if they can get Media attention. It is up to the copyright holders to file the complaint though and give reasonable proof of Harm. Prime things in the past has usually been knock-offs of Designer items: clothes, accessories, watches, eyeglass frames, etc. or large Publishing Houses trying to stop un-contracted resale of books. Ya can see why the Media normally just yawns. Now something dealing with Bitcoin... Bingo! |
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We could be forced to try, if KANO and -CK decides to work against the community and I really would not like that outcome at all. I know jack if this is even possible, but I know that FUBLY is the guy who could and can rewrite the BMMiner and get us all the CGminer 4.9.2 for the S9.
I would rather have the CGminer 4.9.2 on the S9 instead of BFGminer...........but hey, anything is better than the BMMiner.
I too would rather have the sw be based on CGminer. Mainly because that is what the miners already use which I'd think eliminates a ton of re-coding and the inevitable bugs that can pop up in doing it. Just tossing out possible options for consideration if folks can't get together. |
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<lighting match>
I know that will probably throw gas on the issue but: Anyone think that maybe BFGminer could run the s9 (or other Ants)?
Luke: Use the Force....
now that is a tanker full of gas to me tossing about. Now ya know from my work I like energetic events... giggle. |
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Cost is why I suggest filing with the FTC. IF the gov thinks there is is a valid case they bear the burden of pursing it. If the infringement is as cut and dry as Kano et al say, then given the size of Bitmain's market I'd think the FTC and their counterparts in other countries would be very interested. Would certainly make for some nice headlines I know that will probably throw gas on the issue but: Anyone think that maybe BFGminer could run the s9 (or other Ants)? Luke: Use the Force.... |
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Rollin' dem bones and ordered another B13 s9. This will make 7 of the s9's from batch-1 on up.
So far <knocks wood> all of mine are running with zero issues aside from the B1 and B3 needing to be under clocked to keep chip temp at high 90's max.
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Well it's broken in that it's in violation of gpl. And since Kano ck are so bent out of shape about it I can't understand why they don't do something about it. Put their money where their mouth is and force bitmain to open source the code or face a hefty fine. Or is it that the gpl is a joke and no one actually ever does that? Help me understand why you go on about this Kano and yet you do nothing about it. Of course they are going to walk all over you if your all talk and no walk.
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I agree. If anything, file a complaint against Bitmain with the Federal Trade Commission (in the USA) or their equivalent in other countries. They can and very often will impose an import ban on anything that can be proven to violate Copyright. That will certainly get Bitmain's attention... |
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But to begin with, the intention of this Bounty is to make a complete open CGminer v. 4.9.2 according to the GPLv3 license.
That means that we are loyal to the work done by other community members and their hard work. First goal is to keep the miner GUI as is, but replace the BMMiner crap with CGminer 4.9.2, so if you can bring something to the table, please do !
i understand but the question is who will receive bounty? for example: two ppl completed the task, what criteria would be used to select the winner? Or the criteria in general to issue the bounty. Can we agree on a clear list of criteria that when met, the bounty will be paid. For example: - Open source, meeting all GPL requirements.
- Directly part of the main trunk (like the older bitmain support)
- Easy install/remove scripts/instructions.
Feel free to add to the list (or remove items). This list is my vote for what its worth.  I certainly want this to be a 'real' open coded cgminer 4.9.2 Not a black box program with hidden codes. We have collected Ja I agree that fubly's work on what is essentially a rehash of ASICboost on skimming through is sorta, 'Old news so why?".Those behind the marketing of it is... Well weird and again, 'Why?". However I get his point of being promised remuneration for the work on applying ASICboost to the s7. I assume the Players involved gave input to what they wanted to see and he did it. After that well... Anywho, to me, what I mainly care about is that what parts of the source code of this work that by and large is built on CGminer be available on Github. In short, be able to verify just where the hash is going when it is loaded on a clean and bare-bones as possible OS (no possibility of periodic point to shadow pools or other nefarious back door access). The public must be able to sort through the code being loaded. Now as to how this work communicates with the ASIC's... If the Driver remains closed source, well fine. Just provide the binaries needed for free be they for 'ux, MAC, or Win so possibly something other than Bitmains controller might be used to talk to the hash boards.. Am I right that pretty much as always the closed code so far is the driver interface between CGminer and the ASIC's? In a lot of the chip dev threads I've perused I recall that almost being a Constant sore spot. |
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Great work here. Thanks for your efforts.
I would also like to see this working on kano.is since that is where I mine exclusively.
Thanks!
I also mine Kano.is and would like to see some test as well. Phil mines Kano as well. Ditto. I'm Fuzzy there and ever since EMC finally ran out of steam early this year all HP is pointed kano.is as pool 0, their 80 port as fail-over pool1 and lastly have Antpool as fail-over 2. Glad to see Xircom willing to point some of his serious presence on Kano to test. Query: Anyone know if Bitmain is playing around with the string voltage vs batches? Just a thought to add. |
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-Items purchased for resale, professional, or commercial use.
THAT might be the killer. Remember, per the Judges in the KnC lawsuits -- Bitcoin mining generates income. No matter how limited, that constitutes being a business so is commercial use.
In the US that will happen .!!! unless you can prove some how it was not meant to make money which would be very hard being the miners whole purpose is to make something of value that is used to support your self even if it doesn't. cusal mining is considered a business according to the US tax law unless that has changed. <snip> Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. Consult a tax lawyer! Here in the USA the IRS does not consider coin mining automatically a business. They DO however require that you report all income derived from it and pay taxes on it. Since sizeable exchanges of BTC into my bank account as fiat will be reported by Coinbase and my bank anyway, I do declare that to the IRS. BUT - If you do setup a 1 person private corp to mine coin - that opens the door to being able to write off the cost of hardware used per-standard depreciation of office equipment - specifically, computers along with being able to itemize/deduct other aspects of the business. Again, consult a tax attorney on that. Oh, and purchases made on a Corporate Card by nature ARE covered on the cards warranty extension plans |
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re: cc exclusions -Losses caused by power surge, contamination by radioactive or hazardous substances, including mold.Radioactive? Hmm, maybe someone tried to exchange a TV or stereo that was around Fukushima?  -Items purchased for resale, professional, or commercial use.THAT might be the killer. Remember, per the Judges in the KnC lawsuits -- Bitcoin mining generates income. No matter how limited, that constitutes being a business so is commercial use. |
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