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501  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor Safe 3 New Hardware Wallet on: October 13, 2023, 03:03:00 PM
Its different because BitBox02 and Trezor Safe 3 both storing the seed on the MCU and not on the SE. Passport and Coldcard store the seed on the SE. If I'm wrong please correct me.
Ahh right, misunderstood you before - figured you were talking about the SE at a higher level, such as the difference between these devices and Ledger.

You are correct. BitBox02 and Trezor Safe 3 both say the encrypted seed is stored on the MCU, with part of the decryption key stored on the SE. Passport and Coldcard store the encrypted seed on the SE itself, on the other hand.
502  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor Safe 3 New Hardware Wallet on: October 13, 2023, 02:33:23 PM
Do you have any link with more information about this staying the same like in model One?
Already edited my post above - looks like it will support entry on the hardware wallet. But even Trezor T still allows users to enter the passphrase on the computer instead. They really need to remove this option altogether, but they can't while people still use the Trezor One I guess (which will be the case for many years yet).

Similar to the BitBox right?
And Passport and Coldcard. But completely different to Ledger, who run BOLOS and associated applications on the secure element itself.
503  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger's laying off employees. Thoughts? on: October 13, 2023, 10:30:22 AM
Should I be worried about its ongoing operations?
It does not matter if Ledger go bankrupt or disappear. You can always pair your device with Electrum or Sparrow to access your coins, and as long as you have your seed phrase you can still restore it to another hardware wallet or airgapped device.

The bigger concern is the risk of your seed phrase leaving your device, or indeed, if it has already left your device since the ability for that to happen has been there all along, despite Ledger lying and saying the opposite. Ideally you should purchase another hardware wallet or move to using a permanently airgapped computer. If you don't want to do this then there are a few steps you could take to reduce your risk, but they are not a guarantee by any means, make no difference to what might already have happened in the past, and they will limit how you can use your hardware wallet.
504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig "Faketoshi" Wright saga continues. His team turns against him. on: October 13, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
From Craig?  It's a very realistic concern. OTOH, in his shoes I'd feel honor bound to do the right thing in spite of the risk.
Here's a question, and much like Satoshi I am not a lawyer:

When Gavin was being deposed during the Kleiman trial back in 2020, and therefore both under oath and permitted to break his NDA if required, could he not have said at some point during the deposition "I do not believe CSW is Satoshi" and be protected from any future frivolous retaliation from CSW?

I think the closest he got during the deposition was when he said "Yeah, I've learned things after that give me doubts", referring to things he had learned since the "signing session" which make him now doubt that CSW is Satoshi.
505  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What is a "paynym"? on: October 12, 2023, 07:46:32 PM
How can those two be both true?
You will know all the addresses which my paynym generates for you. You will be unable to deduce any of the addresses which my paynym generates for other people. If 100 different people all send me 10 transactions using my paynyn, you will only know the address for the 10 transactions you made, and you won't know anything about the other 990 transactions (or indeed, if there have been any other transactions at all).

Instead of asking your paynym, I could ask for 2 addresses and you could make sure it's not the same one. Correct?
Yes, but that requires me to be online, generate a new address, communicate it with you securely, etc. With a paynym, you can just generate a new address for me on the fly without any interaction needed from me at all.
506  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What is a "paynym"? on: October 12, 2023, 07:23:24 PM
1. if I create a wallet in Sparrow and then enter the same words in Samourai, will it produce the same Paynym? My question could also be "are paynyms produced by the same entropy that produces the seed phrase?"
Yes to both.

2. if I get your paynym, let's say "orangeButterfly21" and I send you some sats using Sparrow, won't the system provide me with the txid ? So, won't I be able to view the address where I sent the sats ? I 'd like to test it, but if anyone knows, let me know and I will believe you.
Yes. The transaction will obviously still be mined and therefore publicly viewable, just as any other transaction is. As the sender, you will know the address you are sending to.

3. if (2) is true and I can see the address, then the only purpose of paynyms is to make sure there is no address reuse? Because every modern wallet with coin control can do that by default.
It ensures no address reuse, but it also means the receiver does not need to generate a new address for every transaction they want to receive and there is no difficulty in communicating that address privately. I could post a paynym publicly, and everyone who wants can use that paynym to send me coins to a fresh address each time, and no one can use that paynym to spy on the addresses it creates for anyone else.

Paynyms also serve another purpose in Samourai and Sparrow wallets in that they allow you to coordinate with other users to create StonewallX2 and Stowaway transactions for improved privacy.
507  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor New Hardware Wallet _____! on: October 12, 2023, 03:56:59 PM
and it also seems like you still have to enter any passphrase on the computer and not on the device itself, which remains a large security risk.
So if you want to import seedphrase, you have do it on the computer and not directly on Trezor device itself? If that is true (can someone please confirm it?), why would anyone in their right mind use them as it looks incredibly risky and something I would never do and I thought that no HW do that anymore.
Not seed phrase - passphrase.

The seed phrase will still be generated or imported on the device itself, but with Trezor One (unlike most other hardware wallets), any additional passphrase is entered on to the Trezor Suite software on the computer you are attached to, and not in to the hardware wallet itself. Obviously entering a passphrase in to a computer with an internet connection makes it very insecure, so potentially still having to do this on a brand new hardware wallet released in 2023 (when other hardware wallets haven't been doing this for years) would be very poor. There's no confirmation of this yet, though.

Edit: I've since noticed on this page (https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) that it says "device-entry passphrase", so at least that particular attack vector seems to have been removed.

There are multiple other reasons I wouldn't pick a Trezor though, even this new model or the other new model they are going to release.

They literally had to make compromise, when they realized how hard is to make their own open source secure element, that is coming out in 2 years.
Sure, but they have spent years telling everyone how not only do we not need secure elements, but that closed source secure elements can actually increase your risk. And now they implement it and call it ground breaking, as if everyone else hasn't been doing it for years already. Roll Eyes
508  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Tutorial] How I run Sparrow 24/7 on GUI-less linux / infinite Whirlpool mixes on: October 12, 2023, 12:40:46 PM
I run 2 nodes, to be honest. Specifically:
Ok, that's an even better set up. Tongue

Do you also use Samourai on the go while pointed at your Dojo? Or do you just use Dojo for Sentinel?

In the past when I ran Sparrow Wallet from the command line, or at all really, I had issues getting it to connect to anything. There was no firewall running. With a Bitcoin node, the connection would not get established, and the same thing happened with public Electrum servers but that must have a more obscure reason.
Did you check the logs to find out what was going on?

That's pretty much the opposite of my experience. I was pretty taken aback when I first installed Sparrow at just how easy it was to connect to my own node on the same device. Literally one click on the button which says "Bitcoin Core" in Sparrow and it was done. It's a little bit more involve to connect it to your Electrum server or a node/server on a different machine, but I've still gone through those processes several times with different machines and OSs without ever having too much trouble.
509  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor New Hardware Wallet _____! on: October 12, 2023, 12:10:28 PM
particularly noteworthy is the strict focus on open source.
Note that the secure element is not open source. It's just a regular secure element. Pretty funny coming from the company that spent the best part of the last 10 years saying how closed source secure elements are a security risk and secure elements are unnecessary, while sweeping under the rug their unfixable seed extraction vulnerability.

It also isn't airgapped and still needs connected to the computer with a USB cable, and it also seems like you still have to enter any passphrase on the computer and not on the device itself, which remains a large security risk.

So all in all, this just looks like a rebranded Trezor One. Pretty disappointing to be honest, and still far behind some other hardware wallets on the market.
510  Economy / Economics / Re: Fed on brink of fifth(?) round of quantitative easing on: October 12, 2023, 11:23:33 AM
most of them probably make over $60,000 per year and i bet none of them is anywhere near the federal poverty level which is a joke in itself. the federal poverty level guidelines should be $35,000 for a single person. not $11,000 or whatever ridiculous number it is. call that number what it really is : the homeless level.  Shocked
Completely agree that a salary of $11,000 is almost unlivable, but let's not fool ourselves in to thinking $60,000 is rich by any means.

if you come up with 9 other similar sized reductions we're already at a tenth of a trillion dollars.
Which again, is nothing. We've added another $40 billion to the debt since my last post. Even with 10 such proposals you are making, you delay the inevitable by a day or two, at most.

and we're supposed to feel sorry for them with all their high salaries and fringe benefits if they can't get paid on juneteenth for not working? no thanks.
Don't you see that's what the government want? Worker against worker. Focus all your anger on some other person who is just slightly better off than you are. Never mind the multinational corporations evading billions in tax, never mind the banks laundering hundreds of billions, never mind the trillions wasted in our ridiculous healthcare or military budgets.

When the $105 has to be paid back but only $100 has been printed, there are only two options: when the money cannot be paid back, either bankruptcies or to print more, refinance and make the ball bigger, devaluing the purchasing power of the money more and more as a consequence.
Yup, we can't possibly let the billionaire banks fail. Money printer goes BRRRR to bail them out, because who cares about the average Joe getting poorer and poorer as this goes on.
511  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Tutorial] How I run Sparrow 24/7 on GUI-less linux / infinite Whirlpool mixes on: October 12, 2023, 11:12:16 AM
First you'll need to install and run a Tor daemon on your Raspberry Pi.

Inside the Sparrow terminal, go to to Preferences -> Server -> Edit, and then select whether you are using Bitcoin Core or Private Electrum. Select Continue. On the next screen go down to "Use Proxy?" and select "Yes", in "Proxy URL" put 127.0.0.1 on port 9050. This will route all external Sparrow traffic via Tor.



Excellent set up, by the way. Your own node, own Electrum server, Sparrow, all via Tor, for endless free coinjoins. Which Electrum server package are you running on your Raspberry Pi? Next up you'll want your own instance of https://github.com/mempool/mempool.
512  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of reserves? Insurance fund? Best I can do is a random number generator! on: October 12, 2023, 06:03:55 AM
Do they even have to borrow money, they could just print their shit tokens out of this air and use it to buy assets to 'prove' that their reserves covers all liabilities.
Exactly. It's happened many times before. An exchanges goes bankrupt because of their own shady practices or because of a hack, so they either launch a shitcoin and "pay" back their users in this worthless shitcoin instead of bitcoin, or they just print a few hundred million of an existing shitcoin out of nothing to keep themselves solvent. A prime example of this is Bitfinex and Tether, where they printed almost a billion USDT out of nothing and gave it to themselves after they were hacked and insolvent.



My most recent favorite snippet from the trial below. Gary Wang was a the CTO of FTX and co-founder alongside SBF:
Quote
Lawyer: Are you aware of the difference between solvency and liquidity?
Gary Wang: Now I am.

What an absolute clown show.
513  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [100 dots] seed phrase backup on: October 11, 2023, 05:45:34 PM
I'll throw in a counter argument: what's the point of remembering the passphrase, if you don't remember the seed words it belongs to?
There is actually a good argument for being able to remember a passphrase if you use a hardware wallet.

Most hardware wallets will let you apply a passphrase to the seed phrase which is already stored within the device, without having to re-enter the seed phrase. So if you have your hardware wallet with you, then if you remember (one or more of) your passphrase(s), then you can access your hidden wallets. Even if you are just using your hardware wallet at home, it means you don't have to go and dig out your back up.

I'm a big proponent of not relying on your memory for anything, and you should definitely have your passphrase backed up on paper separate to your seed phrase in at least two locations. However, I have more than one passphrase which I have entered in to various hardware wallets often enough that I can remember it, despite it being long and complicated. The same holds true for a number of different decryption keys, since all my devices use full disk encryption. Although all of these are backed up on paper, it would be a real pain to have to go and retrieve a back up every time I turned on my computer. Tongue
514  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of reserves? Insurance fund? Best I can do is a random number generator! on: October 11, 2023, 02:37:54 PM
I couldn't image if Binance is bankrupt, how bad is the chaos affecting Bitcoin holder since most of people hold their funds in Binance.
Binance have already been caught running a fractional reserve system and not holding enough coins to cover all withdrawals: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441480.msg62531977#msg62531977.

Proof of reserve my foot, the only time I'll believe a centralized exchange has a proof of reserve is when their reserve/insurance fund are in Bitcoin and held in a multisign offline wallet which they'll sign a message including the Bitcoin address which can be verified by everyone and we monitor the address constantly.
Even then, it proves nothing. So let's say Binance "prove" they have 500,000 BTC. How do we know that is everything they are supposed to have? How do we know that covers all customer deposits to Binance? We don't. It doesn't matter if they prove they are holding 500,000 BTC, if collectively all Binance users should be able to withdraw 750,000 BTC. Proof of reserves without proof of assets is meaningless.

Various exchanges have tried to do proof of assets as well, but it is completely trivial to fool by just having a handful of accounts with negative balances, which is exactly what FTX were doing as well. Alameda's account on FTX had a balance of negative $8 billion.

An example is crypto.com which withdrew about 280,000 ether ($400m) from its account after publishing its PoR audit report. The funds was transfered to Gate.io's address fueling speculations that the funds was just borrowed to deceive their customers.
Binance did the same, with a few billion in USDT being moved out the day after their so-called "audits". And the same thing again with Bitfinex propping up Tether just before their "audits". Every centralized exchange is the same.
515  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of reserves? Insurance fund? Best I can do is a random number generator! on: October 11, 2023, 12:33:27 PM
Were there two insurance funds?
One fund, multiple assets:

516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Proof of reserves? Insurance fund? Best I can do is a random number generator! on: October 11, 2023, 12:03:23 PM
If you've not been following the FTX trial, you really should, because the level of fraud on display is enough to even rival that of CSW. Here are two snippets of code (pictures courtesy of https://nitter.cz/molly0xFFF) which have been submitted as evidence in the trial. This code is regarding FTX's insurance fund which was widely publicized:

   

The first picture above shows how the value of 5,250,000 FTX Token supposedly in the insurance fund was "calculated". It wasn't. It was just coded in. insuranceFund.size = 5250000 FTT. Cheesy

The second picture above shows how the value of USD in the insurance fund was "calculated". The daily trading volume on FTX was multiplied by a random number, and this was used to adjust the insurance fund to a new size. Cheesy

This is the kind of bullshit centralized exchanges are using in their "proof of reserves", "safu funds", "insurance funds", "collateral funds", "1-to-1 matching reports", and all the other trash they peddle to convince you your funds are totally safe. Literal random number generators. They will do and say anything to get you to hand over your coins to them. Don't fall it.
517  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Fuck you ledger on: October 11, 2023, 10:10:40 AM
learned how to deal with cold wallet and transfer  transactions  partial signing  online and then signing offline and broadcast it
I assume this is simply a translation error. Your transaction should not be "partially signed" online. Indeed, transactions can only be partially signed if you are using a multi-sig set up. With a standard single-sig cold wallet, the only thing that happens on your online machine is you create an unsigned transaction. That unsigned transaction is moved to your cold device to be signed, and then moved back again to be broadcast.

I've been wondering myself why hardware wallets are necessary, and the impression I get is that simply using Electrum leaves you vulnerable to getting hacked, which wouldn't be possible when using a HW wallet (or at least much harder if you're paying attention when doing transactions).
If you simply install Electrum on an internet connected device and use it as a hot wallet, then yes, it will not be as secure as a (good) hardware wallet. But you can also use Electrum as a cold wallet. What this means is that Electrum is installed on a computer which is permanently disconnected (airgapped) from the internet, meaning the device can never download malware and never be attacked via the internet since it is never connected to the internet. This airgapped computer stores your private keys, and your private keys never leave this airgapped computer so are never at risk of being exposed to the internet. You create unsigned transactions on your usual internet connected computer, move the unsigned transaction via a USB drive or QR code to your airgapped computer to be signed with your private keys, and then move the signed transaction back to your usual computer to be broadcast to the network.
518  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [100 dots] seed phrase backup on: October 11, 2023, 09:45:59 AM
Now my question is: This website doesn't seem to take into account dictionary attacks. Is there a website that can do both? I mean password number 3 (and perhaps more than this one) could be found much easier than brute-forcing.
So on examination, it seems all that site is doing is making sets of "lowercase", "uppercase", "numbers", "symbols", and then calculating a strength based on number of characters and number of different sets you use. So any string of 9 characters including lowercase letters and symbols will be given the exact same strength. For example, this string "~gm$r!)zf" is also given 1 month and 6 hours, despite being significantly more secure than "stay away". So yeah, a poor way of calculating password strength.

I've never really used password strength sites like this, but a quick search found another one which does take in to account dictionary words - https://www.passwordmonster.com/
For "stay away" it gives 114 seconds, and correctly identifies two dictionary words.
For "~gm$r!)zf" it gives 931 years.

However, this also seems very inaccurate to me. With 26 lowercase letters and 33 symbols in the standard ASCII set, then that second password has 599 combinations, which is around 53 bits. There is no way it would take almost 1,000 years to crack a 53 bit password.

The best passwords, and the most accurate way of calculating strength, are those which are completely random and draw from lowercase, uppercase, numbers, and symbols, without any patterns. Then you can simply do 95x, where x is the length of your password. A 20 character password of this format gives you >128 bits of security, which is what you should be aiming for. As soon as you replace a string of those characters with a dictionary word, then how much this decreases your security is unpredictable.
519  Economy / Economics / Re: Fed on brink of fifth(?) round of quantitative easing on: October 11, 2023, 09:07:12 AM
why should only federal employees get paid for not working. why can't fast food employees or people that drive for uber? why put federal employees into a privileged position and then force me to pay for their holidays?
Do fast food workers not deserve PTO as well? What is with your race to the bottom, to make everyone except the super rich suffer? Perhaps we should be looking to improve the conditions for all workers, rather than slashing the meager benefits that already exist for a handful of workers?

well if that's a fact then why even discuss the national debt problem at all since it will never be solved.
Because it affects us all when our debt hits 300% of GDP, our economy collapses, and the USD becomes worthless.

so your whole thing is, let's not make small changes because so far we haven't been able to make larger ones. that doesn't seem very rational  Angry
My point is you can make all the small changes you want to the detriment of 99% of the population, and all you will do is slow the speed the of debt increase and never actually halt or reverse it. If you want to actually address the problem and not just delay it, then we need much larger scale changes.
520  Other / Meta / Re: Legendary Members Spread Completely Fake Information - Merit System Do Not Work on: October 11, 2023, 08:57:04 AM
Your best bet is just to put BADecker on ignore.

For reasons known only to the forum administration, he is given carte blanche to break all the forum rules, including ones which get other users permabanned without a second thought, such as plagiarism and death threats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400571.msg60248138#msg60248138. This has been discussed at length before, and still he is allowed to break rules with abandon.



I'll be eagerly waiting for o_e_l_e_o's reply so we may get some better information about Fenbendazole's anti-cancer activity.
I don't really want to get dragged in to any more of BADecker's nonsense, but this nonsense about fenbendazole is the exact same nonsense that he peddled for ivermectin or bleach (yes, he actually suggested people drink bleach). Yes, there have been studies that show ivermectin can inhibit the growth of cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab. And yes, the studies you linked show that fenbendazole can inhibit the growth of cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab. And unsurprisingly, if you pour bleach on to cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab, they'll die too. The same is true for arsenic, or mercury, or dynamite. All very good at killing cancer cells in a Petri dish - not so good at killing cancer cells inside a human.

For all the nonsense he suggests, there is either zero evidence that it works in humans, or more frequently (such as with ivermectin) there are mountains of evidence of show that it doesn't work and/or is actively harmful and dangerous.
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