Legendary Members Spread Completely Fake Information - Merit System Do Not Work

[DVlog]

The OP-mentioned posts haven't got any merit, as far as I can see and it has nothing to do with the merit system. I understand the OP's concern. He must be thinking about how this person became a legendary member who shared this kind of misinformation! The truth is some legendary members became members of that reputable rank by merit airdrop. If you check their recent merit section you will notice they haven't gotten many merits recently.

Also a user spreads misinformation, but that doesn't mean he is bad at every field of expertise. They can be very good on other boards. However if that information is not 100% correct then why don't you criticize it on that original topic and correct the misinformation he spread? It doesn't make sense to create a new topic in meta by telling everyone the merit system is bad.

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[yhiaali3]

It is strange to find an old legendary member present in the most important Bitcoin forum since 2013, and yet it is rare to find any post from him related to Bitcoin?

BADecker only writes in the Politics and Society section. Personally, I have not read any of his posts outside of this section. I am surprised if he is only interested in politics, why does he choose the Bitcoin forum to post in?

But regardless, this is a global forum open to everyone, and no one can confiscate freedom of opinion and expression. As for spreading misleading information, this falls on the responsibility of the members who believe everything and do not do their own research.

[knowngunman]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work.
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All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.

The said post by that legendary member is not completely false as you claimed. Besides the post also admits that the drug is being use by both human and animals. I did some brief research about the drug and discover that it's effective for human as well but it is not scientifically approved for human consumption yet. You can say the drug is dangerous for human consumption since it's not scientific proven for human use but discrediting his claim and tagged it fake information while research is still on going about the said drug is inappropriate too. Two wrong can not make a right.

Benzimidazole drugs (including Fenbendazole) have widely been used as anti-helminth agents in both human and/or livestock since the 1960s

Sounds like someone who is not comfortable with the merit system, perhaps finding it difficult to get merit. I know some high rank members would have still been stagnant in lower rank if not for the merit airdropped they received. However, you should not judge the effective of the system by few individuals who are favor from it. Besides the post did not receive a single merit.

Forum is a bitcoin discussion place just like other medias with different people who have different ideas and opinions. It's absolutely at your own discretion to chose what to believe and who to believe. You're also entitled to your own research and opinion.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Your best bet is just to put BADecker on ignore.

For reasons known only to the forum administration, he is given carte blanche to break all the forum rules, including ones which get other users permabanned without a second thought, such as plagiarism and death threats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400571.msg60248138#msg60248138. This has been discussed at length before, and still he is allowed to break rules with abandon.

I'll be eagerly waiting for o_e_l_e_o's reply so we may get some better information about Fenbendazole's anti-cancer activity.

I don't really want to get dragged in to any more of BADecker's nonsense, but this nonsense about fenbendazole is the exact same nonsense that he peddled for ivermectin or bleach (yes, he actually suggested people drink bleach). Yes, there have been studies that show ivermectin can inhibit the growth of cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab. And yes, the studies you linked show that fenbendazole can inhibit the growth of cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab. And unsurprisingly, if you pour bleach on to cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab, they'll die too. The same is true for arsenic, or mercury, or dynamite. All very good at killing cancer cells in a Petri dish - not so good at killing cancer cells inside a human.

For all the nonsense he suggests, there is either zero evidence that it works in humans, or more frequently (such as with ivermectin) there are mountains of evidence of show that it doesn't work and/or is actively harmful and dangerous.

[ABCbits]

First of all, this legendary member with more than 1350 merits can try to get the medicine degree, before spreading complete fake information in the forum about cancer.

• Based on BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=149737), that user actually receive 355 merits.
• The first 1000 merits was airdropped when merit system introduced.
• I don't understand why should people with many merits should get a degree. You can't convert received merit to money and Bitcointalk doesn't offer scholarship either.
• As other user said, just ignore that user.

All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.

If you're going to present evidence, at least perform non-random sampling among user who receive many merit (https://bpip.org/Report?r=earnedmerit), perform detailed analysis on selected users and them present result of the analysis.

[EarnOnVictor]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work.

I quite understand your plight, but for only the misinformation, such a member could be corrected and warned. But you can't outrightly overlook all the good work of a member due to that, it might be a mistake this time.

The truth is that I've seen a couple of high-ranked members who didn't know what they were saying. It might be that they were not good in the aspect they forced themselves to write something, however, this shouldn't be the sole reason why their ranks should be viewed as undeserved.

Many deserve their ranks but need to stop misinformation and dishonourable acts, or else face sanctions.

[Lucius]

Your best bet is just to put BADecker on ignore.
For reasons known only to the forum administration, he is given carte blanche to break all the forum rules, including ones which get other users permabanned without a second thought, such as plagiarism and death threats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400571.msg60248138#msg60248138. This has been discussed at length before, and still he is allowed to break rules with abandon.
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It is one of the mysteries of the forum that is still unsolved, and the only thing we can conclude from it is that this member has some kind of special status that allows him to do things for which others would very easily get a permanent ban.

As for ranks and merits, the fact that the OP opened this topic only confirms that some members believe that rank in itself means something, but if the member in question appeared on this forum after 2018, he would not even be a Hero member today.

The only thing that the admin should have added to the merit system is an addition that would allow lowering the rank if an active user fails to prove within a certain period that he is worthy of the rank he achieved with airdropped merits.

[stompix]

I quite understand your plight, but for only the misinformation, such a member could be corrected and warned. But you can't outrightly overlook all the good work of a member due to that, it might be a mistake this time.

Ok, I just have to ask, what good work has BADecker done on this forum?
Care to share some examples? Grabbing popcorn as I imagine your face when you actually read his posts!

Yes, there have been studies that show ivermectin can inhibit the growth of cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab. And yes, the studies you linked show that fenbendazole can inhibit the growth of cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab. And unsurprisingly, if you pour bleach on to cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab, they'll die too. The same is true for arsenic, or mercury, or dynamite. All very good at killing cancer cells in a Petri dish - not so good at killing cancer cells inside a human.

I was going to say the same thing, and I'm quite intrigued that SanRemo wants to have a more elaborate discussion and has overlooked the main things here, the possible inhibitory thing and the fact that it was all culture cells, I can't wait to see a human thrown in a freezer at 4C then heated to 37C, washed and lysed (well this might be the end of him but..), after recreating him from the supernatant in a gingerbread cast in some over have him sent healthy and cured back to his daily life.

But still amazes me how someone like BD who says that covid is a hoax and vaccines don't work suddenly has a taste for some drug created by the same reptilians and evil money grabbing pharma.

[EarnOnVictor]

I quite understand your plight, but for only the misinformation, such a member could be corrected and warned. But you can't outrightly overlook all the good work of a member due to that, it might be a mistake this time.

Ok, I just have to ask, what good work has BADecker done on this forum?
Care to share some examples? Grabbing popcorn as I imagine your face when you actually read his posts!

Calm down and use an ice block to cool your nerves. Finding faults in people's posts is your speciality instead of sharing value but that can't work on me unless you don't know what you are even saying. For your information, your posts are full of faults too, I see them often, but I don't have time to tackle you when I have better things to do with my time.

Care to look at the excerpt from the OP below?

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work. For example - this thread in Off-topic section

The OP generalized things for legendaries and faulted the merit system before giving an example, right? Did my post exonerate BADecker or did I ever mention the name? I generalize my post for legendary ranks. Don't blame people for what you don't understand. Now, we see who is "grabbing popcorn as I imagine your face when you actually read his(my) posts!."

[stompix]

Calm down and use an ice block to cool your nerves. Finding faults in people's posts is your speciality instead of sharing value but that can't work on me unless you don't know what you are even saying.

You jumped like someone getting raped by a hedgehog the moment I told you to actually look at what that member is posting and you talk about cooling down? 

For your information, your posts are full of faults too, I see them often, but I don't have time to tackle you when I have better things to do with my time.

Oh yeah, I'm sure of that Your Highness!

Care to look at the excerpt from the OP below?

No, I don't care! I asked you what BADecker has done good for the forum, you got triggered to level 100 because you just realized you don't have a clue what we're talking about here and started with your generalistic bs. You know what a discussion forum is? You discuss things and not only answer the question in the title, so if you come and say something be ready to have that discussed by other members who don't agree with it.

can't work on me

I see it works, check your temperature!
But don't take fenbendazole, doesn't work, trust me! 

[Who is John Galt?]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work.

Do I understand you correctly, that if on a medical forum someone starts talking off-topic about some nonsense about string theory or black holes, which will be completely inconsistent with scientific ideas about this, then such a person's medical degree should be immediately taken away? I am not a doctor and do not intend to understand the medical aspects of this issue. But we are on a forum about Bitcoin, and it is strange to expect from those present here that they will all be well versed in medicine, the principles of the Roman legions, Victorian poetry and the work of the hadron collider.

I’m not even sure that all those who have reached the Legendary rank on the forum necessarily have deep knowledge in any aspect of Bitcoin and will be able, for example, to write the same code from scratch on their own, based on the data they already have. Is all this really required? As has been written repeatedly, the merits were introduced not to assess the level of knowledge in medicine, but to ensure that there was less spam on the forum.

We're just talking about forum ranks. If anyone expects Legendary rank to be some kind of degree in science, I would say that is simply a misconception of what forum ranks are.

[vapourminer]

At op good work you spotted one of the forum’s nuttiest people.

NotBatman had a crazy flat earth thread going for a long time.

back in the day the ignore button under a users name would glow bright yellow when that user was ignored by members.. the more people that ignored them the brighter the word ignore glowed.

so bring it back. it did serve a purpose, like warning unwary people that that person is likely a nutter. might help in matters like this.

[Plaguedeath]

@OP there's no correlation between merit and someone else brain, that's why everyone in this forum shouldn't underestimate or think a newbie is dumb and at the same time think high ranked member has a high knowledge.

Some users usually leave a neutral feedback when the user is troll or can harm the forum, in this case many people already left it to BA Decker's profile.

back in the day the ignore button under a users name would glow bright yellow when that user was ignored.. the more people that ignored them the brighter the word ignore glowed.

This is new for me, it looks good if the forum have such feature.

[philipma1957]

At op good work you spotted one of the forum’s nuttiest people.

NotBatman had a crazy flat earth thread going for a long time.

back in the day the ignore button under a users name would glow bright yellow when that user was ignored.. the more people that ignored them the brighter the word ignore glowed.

so bring it back. it did serve a purpose, like warning unwary people that that person is likely a nutter. likely would help in matters like this.

That is not bad, but come on BADecker has some brilliant threads 🧵 .

He makes the actor in that movie conspiracies look tame.

Fuck cant think of his name.

Oh got it Mel Brooks

no wait Mel Gibson.

[Rikafip]

so bring it back. it did serve a purpose, like warning unwary people that that person is likely a nutter. likely would help in matters like this.

Hah, first time I hear about this. When exactly was removed, and why? Not sure that would help though as people have issues using ignore button and on top of that members like BADecker would wear it like a badge of honor.

He makes the actor in that movie conspiracies look tame.

Conspiracy Theory? Not a bad flick.

Oh got it Mel Brooks

That's what I would like to see, conspiracy movie made by Mel Brooks.  

[stompix]

so bring it back. it did serve a purpose, like warning unwary people that that person is likely a nutter. likely would help in matters like this.

Hah, first time I hear about this. When exactly was removed, and why? Not sure that would help though as people have issues using ignore button and on top of that members like BADecker would wear it like a badge of honor.

Theymos will say something about not impeding free speech, that it's easy to abuse and will not bring it back just like the scammer tag or the newbie jail, not going to happen.

That is not bad, but come on BADecker has some brilliant threads 🧵 .
He makes the actor in that movie conspiracies look tame.

If you think that's brilliant:
NSA, CIA, IRS, DHS, ATF, FBI, GCHQ, Federal Reserve, ISIS are Terrorists
Ongoing Civil War in U.S.A. corporation
Warren Buffet is a high level luciferian

Badecker is just an amateur compared to Tom.
And every single one of those topics shows why we must continue to allow unlimited free speech on this forum no matter what drugs the user in question is on! /s

[philipma1957]

so bring it back. it did serve a purpose, like warning unwary people that that person is likely a nutter. likely would help in matters like this.

Hah, first time I hear about this. When exactly was removed, and why? Not sure that would help though as people have issues using ignore button and on top of that members like BADecker would wear it like a badge of honor.

Theymos will say something about not impeding free speech, that it's easy to abuse and will not bring it back just like the scammer tag or the newbie jail, not going to happen.

That is not bad, but come on BADecker has some brilliant threads 🧵 .
He makes the actor in that movie conspiracies look tame.

If you think that's brilliant:
NSA, CIA, IRS, DHS, ATF, FBI, GCHQ, Federal Reserve, ISIS are Terrorists
Ongoing Civil War in U.S.A. corporation
Warren Buffet is a high level luciferian

Badecker is just an amateur compared to Tom.
And every single one of those topics shows why we must continue to allow unlimited free speech on this forum no matter what drugs the user in question is on! /s

No Tom has far much could be true in some of his threads 🧵.

Badecker and notBatman are way more out there.

@Rikafip

You got the Mel Brooks joke nice.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work. For example - this thread in Off-topic section - FENBENDAZOLE and CANCER – at least 12 anti-cancer mechanisms of action..
First of all, this legendary member with more than 1350 merits can try to get the medicine degree, before spreading complete fake information in the forum about cancer.

Using what someone says as a variable to contradict the "merit system", for me, I think is a very wrong approach, and most especially when it doesn't have to do with Bitcoin-related discussion, because though the fact that this user might have been knowledgeable with Bitcoin discussion on this forum which aided his/her growth and later in the future shared a false information about "Cancer" which he/she has little or no knowledge, that doesn't generalize the fact that the merit system is useless, as it did helped differentiate between shit posters and quality posters, and great forum contributor by the amount of merit he/she has.

[Mr.right85]

Ranks, Merits and Trust systems are of the forum and always inferred, don’t have a direct subjectiveness to it but, remains objective based on users perspective and taking too much to it would be you getting yourself in deep shit.

I get it that, it raises concern when your labeled in ways that aren’t very connotative of what actually is but, get off the forum and you would feel alive in every way.

A ranked user on the forum saying something that is basically untrue to you and then you using that to cramp every other ranked user as a bunch in this crap don’t make any sense. More over, from BADecker who is more is more religious than the rest of us. I can almost argue that BADecker doesn’t believe in science especially, the biological science and having the user here taking a page from the medical field, you can expect some out of the ordinary statements.

Good thing your familiar with the drug and seems to know what your saying so a lot could be corrected.

[SatoPrincess]

The merit systems works, we see less crap on the forum because of the merit system. Prior to the introduction of the merit system, anyone could build their account to legendary rank without doing any real work or make any positive contribution. They could just jargons and rank up, some high rank accounts of today are from the old system and the owners may not be as knowledgeable on bitcoin as the rank suggests. In this case, the user made the post in off topic board, I rarely visit there because it has nothing to do with bitcoin. You shouldn’t be so worked up about it, an expert in bitcoin could also be a noob in medicine or politics.