yeah its the biggest load of shit ever, he is going back on his own words. No one had sold a penny prior to today - Jacob and artis still hold their full stash. You can clearly see i asked wolong relevant questions looking for info that i believed was being witheld from us and his answer is that he had asked for blockchain, blogs or whtever i have no idea.

.. not going over this again

the funds for development of the coin including the  funds giveaways were SUPPOSED TO BE SEPERATE .. guess what!

see dude, this is why i know u have no idea what your talking about? our greed for what? pushing to get the giveaway funds released for the community, to develop the coin further and provide everything everyone was asking for?

righhht

ok anti-semite friend.

yep im so wealthy that im sat on my computer with BTC talk open, gosh, im like a master criminal or something.. get real, we have all been fucked by wolong and you can choose to believe what you like but im not going to continue to justify my position, ive made it clear.

what? You really believe the shit he is saying to you like he somehow forced our hand? The guy is a crackhead.

You keep paying for your fanclub membership bro. enjoy

all ive seen is a flood of messages of people saying that ive personally somehow managed to pull off a scam?

If you havent read the logs and dont understand what unfolded then dont comment, simple as that.

From day 1 i have been routing for this coin and spending a lot of time getting the coin visible, promoted and a number of other things. As a result, and because wolong was 'on the team' (i use that loosely) you want to target me as someone who is responsible somehow for what has unfolded today?

Here is what happened - starting yesterday i told jacob and pandawest that i am not happy with whats going on but will give it 24hours before i say anything publicly given that i dont like how reserved wolong has been with us as well as not providing hte things we need. This also applied to other team members, so we attempted to have words with him and you saw his responses.

Now people have their tin foil hat on and are saying 'this is engineered to bring prices low so we can buy in' <- believe me i would prefer that to be the case as it is most likely not as stressful as this.

And other people are saying 'Sev, you knew all along wolong was a scammer, so your entirely at fault'

Sorry for wanting to form my own opinions and try to do the right thing by the community. I have had no previous dealings with wolong and i have a bunch of friends who have made good money with him and then the other side of it is you guys yelling that he is a scammer.. and above all else, we have a coin that we want to push and make work, so i just shoudl take everyone at their word like its gospel and just say i cant be involved because of what people are claiming ? I cant do that

And lastly, to all of you who are saying we have dumped our wallets.. you have ZERO idea what you are talking about. only today have i put my coins in to cryptorush to exit as a result of the way wolong was behaving.. i dont endorse his actions or the stuff he says and i dont agree with any of the shit that hes talked to any of you, why do you think i want to distance myself from it?

And the rest of you seem to think i am financially responsible for you somehow, i have no real answer for this as its ridiculous.

If you want to put a target on my back thats no problem. The second something happened I was on here providing the logs for everyone to see to inform them as a matter of security for the community.

For everyone who has messaged me with nice stuff, thanks, im not going to be working on other coins at the moment and Jacob and I are actively working on a way of ousting wolong from his holdings and position within the community to try and salvage what we can. Despite everything above, we still had a flawless launch, an insane amount of hash on the network and while it lasted, we had a nice value.

You are free to make your own minds up, but no one is trying to fuck you over from the remaining dev team - and when we do get funds back (which we hope will happen) we will be doing a huge amount of giveaways to try and cover as many people as possible.

You stay classy

i didnt know wolong is a scammer, all ive seen is is people yelling scam this scam that etc, and now ive witnessed it first hand.

FYI - we are working on a way of kicking wolong the fuck outa here

unfortunately we are not able to do that though.

i can tell you with 100% confidence that this is not true in terms of the devs selling off their coins. Dude, MOLLY hasnt even been given his wallet details yet.
Jacob only woke up a few hours ago mid-shit-storm and as you can see from the pastebins, is massively pissed. We don't even know where Artis is as he left to tend to some RL stuff pretty much straight after launch, so believe me, i don't know of anyone other than wolong who has dumped like you saying.

no, what i defended/tried to articulate to people who were yelling THREE PERCENT PREMINE is that it was not as simplified as '3 percent premine'  - and each and every time i tried to explain what it was for, which included giveaways, development and other funds which were set aside (which i was told was the case)... and that turned out to be completely false beauase of wolongs actions, why would i be crazy enough to stick around giving people false information? I don't want to be seen to be lying to people as the dev member who is community facing.

you are massively mistaken. we were told one thing by wolong and nothing was delivered on, how on earth can we facilitate the running of the coin when he made his own set of rules?

You seem to be under the impression that we are all somehow in on some sort of scheme to profit off everyone. I've told you guys hundreds of times in here i received 20m for the time i have put in to this coin, which is chump change compared to what everyone else got, and i had no caviet attached to me in terms of when i could sell my coins whereas the others did. So im really not sure what your saying other than accusing me of being in cohorts with wolong? I have maintained all along that him and i have had limited interaction all along, and now i know why, and its because he had his own agenda and has concealed all of the most important aspects of what myself and the other dev team members need/needed to take the coin forward in the way that we had planned to and everything i wrote here was 100% accurate at the time of publishing it.

The only time ive sold my coins, is TODAY as a result of this, so please reserve your judgement and take your hateful comments elsewhere.

do you not think if this was about profit i would have cashed out at 100 satoshi? .. exactly, and im selling my coins at 25 satoshi as a result of my decision to step away from this project because wolong has zero respect for anyone involved. IT GOES BEYOND THE MONEY INVOLVED, and i wont stand by why he is spewing shit to people about trashing other coins, peoples kids dying, and witholding funds/information that we need to move the coin along.

removed.

if you want to be small minded enough to pigeon hole me with wolong thats up to you. Myself and the rest of the real team put a lot of time and effort in to this coin, this is not the desired outcome.

what kind of shit is this? Seriously, you think that because of all the hard work i put in to trying to make this coin work i should send the rest of my coins to you because you asked me as a way of 'calling me out'? What is wrong with you? Grow up

latest up date with wolong in dev chan with myself and jacob as well as other members.

http://pastebin.com/Pek5pAya

what? Dude i have never scammed a single person and never would. I said here publicly that if by promoting this coin I have caused any problems then I apolgoize, ive tried to do the best thing by the community and due to no fault of my own but by other peoples actions, i made the decision to step away from the project as i dont want to be associated with someone who is so blatantly an idiot. And ok there were a lot of you saying this days ago etc, but i guess i had to find out for myself. i never bought in to the wolong fan club and have never paid the guy a cent other than in my time on this project which has obviously proved to be a huge mistake.

But im certainly not a scammer

no im not, i said its not my place to do that and that if people want to continue mining this coin then they can feel free, the information is in this thread for them to decide otherwise. thats what i said so please dont twist my words

gameOT deception is obviously not his official twitter you moron

unfortunately i don't think there is a way forward. I have learnt a lot from this and will be using it to build something positive in the future

just FYI. for any people who doubt the fact that myself and others on the team have walked out, please know that wolong is trying to save face by saying that he has 'engineered' this and people in his channel believe this because htey have managed to tripple+ their holdings of panda.

Just some proof so u know im not bullshitting and genuinely do have everyones best interests at heart here - someone i know is in his 'circlejerk' and this was relayed in to dev channel

<evoked> 09:02 <~wolong> moose guy is real
<evoked> 09:02 < hmac> What is an for panda???
<evoked> 09:02 < Jesus--> what lol
<evoked> 09:02 < hmac> Plan*
<evoked> 09:02 < coj_away> but if the devs sold out, then who will maintain the coin lol
<evoked> 09:02 <~wolong> but the twitter spam
<evoked> 09:02 < drastic> wish i could buy for 1 sat -_-
<evoked> 09:02 <~wolong> the anger
<evoked> 09:02 <~wolong> was to divert attention
<evoked> 09:02 < HOP> the thing with loss of trust with devs is worrying
<evoked> 09:02 < pattes> You just earned my entire and unconditional devotion
<evoked> 09:02 <~wolong> and cashout before the devs
<evoked> 09:02 < nam>
<evoked> 09:02 < phaed> very nice
<evoked> 09:02 < mahd> ROFL!
<evoked> 09:03 < hmac> !events
<evoked> 09:03 < pattes> Oh my god...
<evoked> 09:03 < w000t> so what
<evoked> 09:03 < Chav> so good
<evoked> 09:03 < dogenu> guys let wolong talk, give him a break
<evoked> 09:03 <~wolong> and the rain
<evoked> 09:03 < wolfcoin> nice!
<evoked> 0
<evoked> [3:04:43 AM] Moose: bula> bought 4M panda at 15 sat
<evoked> 09:03 < HOP> and see what you are doing next
<evoked> 09:03 < pattes> I can't fucking believe it
<evoked> 09:03 < cebula> bought 4M panda at 15 sat
<evoked> 09:03 < cebula> bought 4M panda at 15 sat
<evoked> 09:03 < nam> Unbelieveble
<evoked> 09:03 < gladiator> making it rain while shit was hitting the fan was pretty amusing at the time
<evoked> 09:03 < pattes> Feels like a book
<evoked> 09:04 < chef84> definitely worth the entrance fee
<evoked> 09:04 < cebula> thanks wolong
<evoked> 09:04 < Chav> couldnt profit from it though, was holding pandas and dint want to sell thm
<evoked> 09:04 < dogenu> guys give him a break
<evoked> 09:04 -!- hmac [hmac@66-87-79-194.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Connection closed]
<evoked> 09:04 < ^^Kilroy> can we make it dip a little more?
<evoked> 09:04 < phaed> it was great, i multiplied my holdings by 3
<evoked> 09:04 < Kokes> Wolong, it was good. And people SHOULD'VE known it was fake, because nothing was said in this channel.
<evoked> 09:04 <~wolong> WildRaven, i just changed the game if you haven;t realise
<evoked> 09:04 < captaincrypto> wow, that was amazing
<evoked> 09:04 <~wolong> instead of increasing exposure by holding 1.5Billion pandas
<evoked> 09:04 <~wolong> and devs cashing out
<evoked> 09:04 <~wolong> i cashed out first
<evoked> 09:04 < ^^Kilroy> all my btc got sucked up

if anyone thinks he 'engineered' us being disgusted with his behaviour and not being properly involved on the team, or coming clean about the questions I asked him in my previous pastebin then.. realy.. wtf :|

edit: i want thsi guy out our community and away, he is poison as far as im concerned.

Im sorry to anyone who genuinely bought in to this coin through time and hardware investment, as well as of course money.

I hope to be working on projects that are of real value to the community in future and believe me when i say im staying away from premine

sev