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501  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 23, 2012, 07:50:39 PM
That is a baller pond. Start the aquaculture op!

Not sure what you mean. If you think there is not enough plants in the water, keep in mind thats early spring before most of the plants and lillies surface, and right after a thorough cleanup. in the summer you can almost walk across the pond without getting your feet wet Smiley.

No, I meant you should be farming food fish and vegetables in there. 10,000g with some upgrades to the biofilters should be able to handle a good five or six thousand pounds of tilapia, easy...just cut out some raceways and start growing greens and herbs for your local restaurants.
502  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Anyone willing to invest? on: January 23, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
No offense, but if you've got 'product' and still can't find 24BTC then you're doing something wrong, and in retrospect people should not take you seriously as an investment or businessperson.

Meh...nerds love pharmies, but they are hard to get rid of outside of West Virginia. Slap it on silk road and they'll fly off the shelves like hotcakes.

Y'all wanna buy some xani-bars?
503  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 23, 2012, 07:30:17 PM
That is a baller pond. Start the aquaculture op!
504  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 23, 2012, 07:23:08 PM
Insulator was the wrong word, but now I need you to explain something. Would the layer of water trapped by a wetsuit be considered an insulator, or is the insulating going on in the neoprene? Wetsuit without that trapped layer doesn't do anything.

The water in wetsuit isn't used for insulation.  A dry suit (not a dry wetsuit but an actual drysuit) will always be superior but dry suits are expensive, complicated (the air compresses at depth), and require a lot of maintenance.  It is the neoprene which provides insulating properties.  Technically it is the air bubbles in the neoprene which provide the insulation (air is on the best low cost insulators, and water is one of the best low cost conductors).  This is why as you dive deeper a wet suits becomes less effective.  The water pressure compresses the bubbles in the neoprene reducing the insulating value.  You can partially compensate with thicker neoprene or use a dry suit.

The "wet" in a wet suit keeps it simple.  The suit doesn't need to be "perfect fit" just snug enough to minimize water exchange.  The water layer aids in comfort and since water is a conductor is spreads around any heat loss.  For most diving it is simply "good enough", however if you have ever had a wet suit which is torn you will quickly find out how bad of an insulator water is. Smiley

I've done a lot of diving with both wet and dry suits ('fuck Lake Superior' is all I can really say about that), I just wasn't hip to how the liquid fit into the insulating picture. I suppose I should have pieced it together, what with needing a new wetsuit every six months due to compression. Southern California's got some chilly water, but dry suits absolutely suck...turn your head too far and you're wearing wool soaked with icewater.

I was an AAUS diver for a bunch of years and people are always disgusted by the concept of pissing in your wetsuit...all I can say is when you have to dive at five in the morning in 10c water, it is the only relief you are going to get...even a 7mil with an insotherm and a hooded vest won't keep you warm in that shit.
505  Economy / Speculation / Re: if you were the manipulator, what would you do? on: January 23, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
I would order another pina colada, and a pillow for my beachside chair...



This...I was going to say 'cash out and drink on a beach in Panama'...
506  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 23, 2012, 06:32:35 PM
2000w will more than likely impact 10,000 gallons, though it wholly depends a lot on surface area. I had a 4,500g outdoor reef running 2000 watts of inline heater and it would keep the tank at 76-78 even when it was ~50F ambient and was still kicking off. The reef was lit with LED so there was almost zero infrared contributing to that. Water Air is an incredibly good insulator.

Smiley

The water rose in temp because it was a good conductor and the air wasn't.  Thus the thermal energy gets "trapped" in the water and the temp rises.

Water is a horrible insulator.

Insulator was the wrong word, but now I need you to explain something. Would the layer of water trapped by a wetsuit be considered an insulator, or is the insulating going on in the neoprene? Wetsuit without that trapped layer doesn't do anything.

Fucking thermodynamics...how does it work?

My point was that dumping a constant 2000w into a body of water will heat it, and I am not sure ambient temperatures and airflow will be enough to 'exhaust' it, so to speak. Throw the sun into the mix and you are going to have some wild daily temperature swings to the detriment of the fishes health.
507  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 23, 2012, 06:18:08 PM

The only point that was about to delay the production by 1 to 2 weeks was the Chinese new year holiday!

Oh, I didn't know Chinese New Year lasted four months.

Did you order? or yr here just to S.... Y.... M... F... S..... F..... B....

So whose sock puppet are you?

Also, I have no fucking clue what your string of letters means. Feel free to insult me in long form. I have no qualms about doing the same to you.

I will explain it to you in 4 - 6 weeks

Hopefully by that point you'll be doing it over the hum of your bitforce singles.
508  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 23, 2012, 06:15:47 PM
2000w will more than likely impact 10,000 gallons, though it wholly depends a lot on surface area. I had a 4,500g outdoor reef running 2000 watts of inline heater and it would keep the tank at 76-78 even when it was ~50F ambient and was still kicking off. The reef was lit with LED so there was almost zero infrared contributing to that. Water is an incredibly good insulator.
509  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 23, 2012, 05:58:59 PM

The only point that was about to delay the production by 1 to 2 weeks was the Chinese new year holiday!

Oh, I didn't know Chinese New Year lasted four months.

Did you order? or yr here just to S.... Y.... M... F... S..... F..... B....

So whose sock puppet are you?

Also, I have no fucking clue what your string of letters means. Feel free to insult me in long form. I have no qualms about doing the same to you.
510  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 23, 2012, 05:32:50 PM

The only point that was about to delay the production by 1 to 2 weeks was the Chinese new year holiday!

Oh, I didn't know Chinese New Year lasted four months.
511  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 23, 2012, 02:00:27 AM

Do you guys realize that this thread is 50 pages and a product still hasn't come out yet?

It really goes a long way in explaining the gossipy, jumpy and judgmental community we have here.



Don't forget the first seventy-some-odd pages before the split...

I think everyone is just really excited about this new product!

Who's got their tracking info? Tomorrow was the day.
When was the 23rd reported as the day?  I only heard the beginning of January, but more recently the end of January.

I don't know. The FPGA Roundup had that listed. Either way, UPS Ground is 7-10 days, implying shit should be going out in the next day or two to make delivery by the end of the month.
512  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 23, 2012, 01:46:39 AM

Do you guys realize that this thread is 50 pages and a product still hasn't come out yet?

It really goes a long way in explaining the gossipy, jumpy and judgmental community we have here.



Don't forget the first seventy-some-odd pages before the split...

I think everyone is just really excited about this new product!

Who's got their tracking info? Tomorrow was the day.
513  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 23, 2012, 01:01:16 AM

Do you guys realize that this thread is 50 pages and a product still hasn't come out yet?

It really goes a long way in explaining the gossipy, jumpy and judgmental community we have here.



Don't forget the first seventy-some-odd pages before the split...
514  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Miners are getting jacked for 15-20% of earnings!!!! on: January 23, 2012, 12:59:05 AM
His solution does not sound like it could be implemented with a 'relative degree of ease'. It sounds like it would be an absolute monster to code and manage.
515  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [319 GH/s 0% fee SMPPS] ArsBitcoin mining pool! Come join us! on: January 23, 2012, 12:49:54 AM
Man, I just looked at the donation stats, and despite not mining for almost four months, I am still 23rd in donations. Y'all cheap as hell, dawg.
516  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 23, 2012, 12:35:39 AM
Has anyone heard of what the warranty is for any of Butterfly Labs products??

BFL stated on the forum that it would honor a 6-month warranty and that they would update the website to that effect. They have not updated the website yet, so I'm not sure how 'official' the 6 months is.
I know I read about the warranty somewhere here,but couldn't find it again in this thread.

You'll find BFL's official warranty post here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53530.msg650173#msg650173

Official...posted to the world in a thread dedicated to trolling BFL...
517  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: TradeHill referral links. What's the point? on: January 22, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
I was just returning some videos...
518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how much would you ask to create (me) a cryptocoin variation ? on: January 21, 2012, 11:22:25 PM
Man, you should really spend some time in the alt-coin forum. You have no market and are assuredly going to get ripped a new asshole for whatever you attempt.

Try genjix. He coded Realcoin for some other tool who wanted to pump-and-dump; it doesn't even exist and already has a pool coming together to destroy it on it's release date. I am sure he will happily take your money.
519  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 21, 2012, 09:09:22 PM

The only thing BFL needs to do is deliver product as ordered.

Which they already failed massively on...

My understanding is that if anyone with an active order is not happy about how this situation is progressing, they are free to get a refund at any time ... I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Huh

Now come one, that's to logical for these trolls. They don't even have money invested in these, they're just crying for the sake of crying.

If they were selling used tires with this poor of a marketing strategy, I would still be mocking them. I am not sure anyone has money invested in 'these' because as of yet, 'these' don't exist.

Prove me wrong, BFL. I already said I'd buy one if they exist.
520  Other / Off-topic / Re: ITT: ASCII penis on: January 21, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
I am pretty offended. I requested an ASCII penis like, a week ago for someone selling their sig bar as ad space.

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