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501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:28:06 AM
I give you a hint.... its Joe

No what is shows is that who ever drew it has never taken a single course in algorithm design, or even process management. To the university grads here, did you ever see something like this in CompSci 101?
502  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:24:25 AM
That diagram is a mess. I am trying to work out the flow but the language used is like the boxes are having a chat (conversations) with each other  Huh

thats why it is called a flow chart.

there is no flow...a flow chart has a beginning and an end...

That was my very first thought. I understand were it is supposed to end, but it is a poorly thought out.
503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:23:25 AM

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.






Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Would that diagram suffice as evidence? Appreciate your input.

Thanks

No. Here is an analogy.

Here is a description of a warp drive, using the known laws relativity. This does not constitute evidence of faster than light travel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive#Mathematics_of_the_Alcubierre_drive

What would you consider valid evidence then?

Well that was my original question, which I do not have an answer for.

Full open source audit by industry experts would be pretty fool-proof for me, but by that time most of the price rise would have happened in anticipation.
504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:18:25 AM

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.






Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Why are you here pal? Honestly. You clearly have no vested interest in Cloak or else you wouldn't be shitting on your own investment. Why can't you and your ilk leave and go back to your respective threads? No one here owes you or any of the others an explanation for anything. You don't have a right to have your questions answered.

I can understand posting positively here if you are invested in Cloak - but to just waste life speaking negatively about something like this just seems crazy. Why not spread positive messages in the threads of the coins you hold? Much more rewarding to engage in a community of like minded individuals.

Simple, because If everyone just posts positive messages in an echo chamber, and it turns out the emperor has no clothes, everyone gets burned. If it turns out that the skeptics were wrong and miss out, at least they didn't lose their mortgage payment.
505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:15:09 AM

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.






Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Would that diagram suffice as evidence? Appreciate your input.

Thanks

No. Here is an analogy.

Here is a description of a warp drive, using the known laws relativity. This does not constitute evidence of faster than light travel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive#Mathematics_of_the_Alcubierre_drive
506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 01:07:01 AM

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.






Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:53:04 AM
We just gave the new wallet with posa to the atcsource or whatever its called and their has been an open beta. We do trust them because we have the wallets and have used them. Your the idiot.

Your atrocious grammar leads me to believe you are a teenager.
Calling me an idiot would surely pass the peer review process and constitute evidence.

Can you address my question. What evidence is necessary to convince the majority? I would suggest challenging litecoins market cap a signal that the majority are convinced.

When everyone one is convinced, you will all be rich. What specific events should I be watching for?
508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:39:10 AM

We talking about Cloak or Bob?

Who gives a fuck about Bob? If you guys hate him that much open a new thread about him. I hope he did dump his Cloak if he was holding to some, were better off without him. I would be an idiot to listen to Bob, I am pretty sure he stirred shit up profiting from Cloak and Dark.

Could we stop talking about this Bob character and move on topic?

OK.

I've made the assumption, possibly incorrectly, that there are a lot of educated, technically or scientifically minded people here. With that assumption, I set a high burden of proof before I am convinced of something. I hold mostly bitcoin, > 75%, but of my other holdings, drk is the largest, I have bought back in a few days ago.

I see a definable, demonstrable chain of evolution for drk. I see past ideas evolve into well used open source, technology, x11, dgw.

Here is my problem. Version 1.0 was the central mixer, now we are lead to believe the new version is a completely different idea. That is not evolution and appears to be a stall tactic.

The evidence I see presented is, a bunch of colluding 'dudes', with a known conflict of interest, saying trust us, it works. This is not sufficient evidence for me. It may be sufficient evidence for you. I take very little information, even from family and colleagues, on the basis of "trust me".

Here is my question. What kind of evidence do you, or others here, believe is necessary to convince the silent majority?

BAHAHA!!! what a dumb ass... The evidence I see presented is, a bunch of colluding 'dudes', with a known conflict of interest, saying trust us, it works. This is not sufficient evidence for me. It may be sufficient evidence for you. I take very little information, even from family and colleagues, on the basis of "trust me". I SAY THE SAME TO THE DARKCOIN AND THERE PRECIOUS RC4

But your claim is not correct. I have been following the evolution of the master nodes from rc2, they exist and they are working, implementation of payments was successful in rc3 though there was a bug in the voting system causing forks, further revision corrected the forking..

This is a chain of evidence and evolution. You can not claim these events did not occur?

Calling me a dumbass does not constitute evidence that will convince the majority. Can you address my original question?
509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:29:27 AM

We talking about Cloak or Bob?

Who gives a fuck about Bob? If you guys hate him that much open a new thread about him. I hope he did dump his Cloak if he was holding to some, were better off without him. I would be an idiot to listen to Bob, I am pretty sure he stirred shit up profiting from Cloak and Dark.

Could we stop talking about this Bob character and move on topic?

OK.

I've made the assumption, possibly incorrectly, that there are a lot of educated, technically or scientifically minded people here. With that assumption, I set a high burden of proof before I am convinced of something. I hold mostly bitcoin, > 75%, but of my other holdings, drk is the largest, I have bought back in a few days ago.

I see a definable, demonstrable chain of evolution for drk. I see past ideas evolve into well used open source, technology, x11, dgw.

Here is my problem. Version 1.0 was the central mixer, now we are lead to believe the new version is a completely different idea. That is not evolution and appears to be a stall tactic.

The evidence I see presented is, a bunch of colluding 'dudes', with a known conflict of interest, saying trust us, it works. This is not sufficient evidence for me. It may be sufficient evidence for you. I take very little information, even from family and colleagues, on the basis of "trust me".

Here is my question. What kind of evidence do you, or others here, believe is necessary to convince the silent majority?
510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 01, 2014, 12:03:59 AM

Bobsurplus even telegraphed when he would dump on you guys.  It was when he bragged that he was going to the office to unlock a cold wallet so get ready for a big rise!................CLOAK has tanked ever since.

Bob is a serial pumper, one only has to look through his past posts, or even his twitter account emc2whale, emc2= einsteinium...He'll do it again to other newbs.

511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 31, 2014, 11:16:21 PM


Coming from a drk bagholder  Cheesy Holding from what price? 10$? 15$?

At least create a new account if your going to troll, your post history is all in dark's thread which proves you and rest here are dark trolls. Pathetic bagholders.

Buy low sell, high bag holder, where's bobsurplus? Oh that's right, he dumped. Don't be emotionally attached.
512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 31, 2014, 10:55:22 PM
513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 31, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
The Cloackdevs need to show how many cloaks they've dumped over the past 48 hours!


No Premine... No IPO...  What coins do you think they dumped? 

Ignore this dipshit.  He's pond scum.  He's been spamming the forum for days.
514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 30, 2014, 07:23:09 AM
515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 30, 2014, 07:12:22 AM
516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 11:32:47 AM
nice charts, but technical analysis on it is not good, broke support already. fingers crossed on RC4 to save the day.

Support is 0.0087? this hasn't been broken, if it had there would be a cascade sell off. As i said in the other post. I am not doing any t.a. but you can literally look at the chart and see how the bots are programmed. It would be foolish to call the movements random.

Forget bots. Multipools dumping 100+ coins at once is the reason for new low. When the price gets low enough it will not be beneficial to dump. Combine that with a new RC and more master nodes, lots of coin will not even be for sale making the price sky rocket very fast. Although if the price does continue to go down the celing of the coin after RC4 goes down too...

That's the thing, this isn't a new low, we have been this low 6 times in the last 2 months. Peoples attention spans are too short.
517  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 11:16:41 AM
nice charts, but technical analysis on it is not good, broke support already. fingers crossed on RC4 to save the day.

Support is 0.0087? this hasn't been broken, if it had there would be a cascade sell off. As i said in the other post. I am not doing any t.a. but you can literally look at the chart and see how the bots are programmed. It would be foolish to call the movements random.
518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 10:52:06 AM

just nice pictures, rc4 is comming, after that drk is dead or the new rising crypto star  (rc4 test looking good so far)

I didn't say i believe they predict the future, but a lot of people do. The bots are clearly following a programmed path. My prediction is we break up 30% and trade sideways until rc4, similar to btc right now.

There is still a lot of money in drk, and regardless of what the software actually does, this provides plenty of liquidity to trade on. The underlying asset need not be the driving factor at this time.
519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 10:37:48 AM


Breakout end of the month/ early aug, whether is goes up or down is the question. The price is following the triangle on all time frames. Bitcoin did the exact same thing may 18th.

520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 07:44:29 AM
We will recover, someone just needed to pay their rent for the next year lol

12 Masternodes in one hit....

The wedge looks like it will converge in a few days, plus its month end. I'm suspecting a rebound on the first, and further rally with rc4
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