[ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA

[nsimmons]

Bobsurplus even telegraphed when he would dump on you guys.  It was when he bragged that he was going to the office to unlock a cold wallet so get ready for a big rise!................CLOAK has tanked ever since.

Bob is a serial pumper, one only has to look through his past posts, or even his twitter account emc2whale, emc2= einsteinium...He'll do it again to other newbs.

[smokim87]

Coming from a drk bagholder   Holding from what price? 10$? 15$?

At least create a new account if your going to troll, your post history is all in dark's thread which proves you and rest here are dark trolls. Pathetic bagholders.

Buy low sell, high bag holder, where's bobsurplus? Oh that's right, he dumped. Don't be emotionally attached.

Bobsurplus even telegraphed when he would dump on you guys.  It was when he bragged that he was going to the office to unlock a cold wallet so get ready for a big rise!................CLOAK has tanked ever since.

We talking about Cloak or Bob?

Who gives a fuck about Bob? If you guys hate him that much open a new thread about him. I hope he did dump his Cloak if he was holding to some, were better off without him. I would be an idiot to listen to Bob, I am pretty sure he stirred shit up profiting from Cloak and Dark.

Could we stop talking about this Bob character and move on topic?

[smokim87]

Dan hasn't looked at the new wallet.

please lets end this cloak discussion, I was just responding to numerous posts and pm's....until I do my own review, I have no official statement on cloak



Thank You,


Dan

Dan has successfully received a working -qt wallet with PoSA.

[FUD_master]

I'm back in.


Edit:   let's do this shit:

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[TheDagger]

There were over a dozen private beta testers confirming it worked, public beta tests also. Your claiming its a php script or api thing do you have even a tiny piece of proof? No!

They were looking at some code from CloakSend 1.0 which is visable on public githib... We stopped working on that weeks ago and moved onto PoSA.

[smokim87]

I'm back in.


Edit:   let's do this shit:

How are you analyzing charts? Comparing Drk past prices with Cloak current ones? Cloak seems to mimic Dark's past price movements but wondering is that simple?

[mikerutch]

what kind of low life dev starts discussing and insinuating that another coin is so called flawed! atcsecure clearly has a higher agender to pump his own coin to claim they are the ONLY working anon coin. Man the amount of FUD and now from a coins dev team has stooped to a new low, atcsecure it seems you and your coin are threatened by the CLOAK all I can say is:

[papagravel]

ATCSECURE is lead XC dev? They bash our coin and claim it like its an independent party. That's low.

[smokim87]

ATCSECURE is lead XC dev? They bash our coin and claim it like its an independent party. That's low.

Not sure if that IRC log is real but if it is atcsecure was talking about Cloaksend 1.0. Like thedagger posted they were looking at the outdated github that hasn't been updated with anything new for awhile.

Atcsecure didn't confirm the legitimacy of the irc chat logs too and he has received the most recent wallet that contains PoSA. He's doing his analysis now.

[FUD_master]

I'm back in.


Edit:   let's do this shit:

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How are you analyzing charts? Comparing Drk past prices with Cloak current ones? Cloak seems to mimic Dark's past price movements but wondering is that simple?

No, it's definitely not that simple.  My main point is that a dump of that proportion is par for the course.  No "premine" got dumped, Bob probably didn't run off.  It still looks good.

[drizzle2405]

There were over a dozen private beta testers confirming it worked, public beta tests also. Your claiming its a php script or api thing do you have even a tiny piece of proof? No!

They were looking at some code from CloakSend 1.0 which is visable on public githib... We stopped working on that weeks ago and moved onto PoSA.

Dagger is messaging going to be integrated?  I heard this was confirmed somewhere?

[socket]

There were over a dozen private beta testers confirming it worked, public beta tests also. Your claiming its a php script or api thing do you have even a tiny piece of proof? No!

They were looking at some code from CloakSend 1.0 which is visable on public githib... We stopped working on that weeks ago and moved onto PoSA.

Dagger is messaging going to be integrated?  I heard this was confirmed somewhere?

It's a planned feature of OneMarket. As a means for buyers and sellers to communicate.

[nsimmons]

We talking about Cloak or Bob?

Who gives a fuck about Bob? If you guys hate him that much open a new thread about him. I hope he did dump his Cloak if he was holding to some, were better off without him. I would be an idiot to listen to Bob, I am pretty sure he stirred shit up profiting from Cloak and Dark.

Could we stop talking about this Bob character and move on topic?

OK.

I've made the assumption, possibly incorrectly, that there are a lot of educated, technically or scientifically minded people here. With that assumption, I set a high burden of proof before I am convinced of something. I hold mostly bitcoin, > 75%, but of my other holdings, drk is the largest, I have bought back in a few days ago.

I see a definable, demonstrable chain of evolution for drk. I see past ideas evolve into well used open source, technology, x11, dgw.

Here is my problem. Version 1.0 was the central mixer, now we are lead to believe the new version is a completely different idea. That is not evolution and appears to be a stall tactic.

The evidence I see presented is, a bunch of colluding 'dudes', with a known conflict of interest, saying trust us, it works. This is not sufficient evidence for me. It may be sufficient evidence for you. I take very little information, even from family and colleagues, on the basis of "trust me".

Here is my question. What kind of evidence do you, or others here, believe is necessary to convince the silent majority?

[mikerutch]

We talking about Cloak or Bob?

Who gives a fuck about Bob? If you guys hate him that much open a new thread about him. I hope he did dump his Cloak if he was holding to some, were better off without him. I would be an idiot to listen to Bob, I am pretty sure he stirred shit up profiting from Cloak and Dark.

Could we stop talking about this Bob character and move on topic?

OK.

I've made the assumption, possibly incorrectly, that there are a lot of educated, technically or scientifically minded people here. With that assumption, I set a high burden of proof before I am convinced of something. I hold mostly bitcoin, > 75%, but of my other holdings, drk is the largest, I have bought back in a few days ago.

I see a definable, demonstrable chain of evolution for drk. I see past ideas evolve into well used open source, technology, x11, dgw.

Here is my problem. Version 1.0 was the central mixer, now we are lead to believe the new version is a completely different idea. That is not evolution and appears to be a stall tactic.

The evidence I see presented is, a bunch of colluding 'dudes', with a known conflict of interest, saying trust us, it works. This is not sufficient evidence for me. It may be sufficient evidence for you. I take very little information, even from family and colleagues, on the basis of "trust me".

Here is my question. What kind of evidence do you, or others here, believe is necessary to convince the silent majority?

BAHAHA!!! what a dumb ass... The evidence I see presented is, a bunch of colluding 'dudes', with a known conflict of interest, saying trust us, it works. This is not sufficient evidence for me. It may be sufficient evidence for you. I take very little information, even from family and colleagues, on the basis of "trust me". I SAY THE SAME TO THE DARKCOIN AND THERE PRECIOUS RC4

[Ignition75]

If there are any darkcoin holders in here, please stop fudding and trolling, there is no need for this, lets behave as adults, instead of aggitate cloakcoin holders..

Darkcoin and Cloakcoin aim for becoming anonymous, both in different ways, and whoever chooses what, doesnt matter, the reason people invest in diffferent coins comes from, whichever coin they feel has the best features / future..

I would like to extend an appology to cloakcoin holders / devs for the fud/trolling..


CHAOSiTEC

+1

DRK thread was turning into a bit of a freak show as well lately.

Plenty of room in the market for more than one Anon coin.

Good luck all.

[nsimmons]

We talking about Cloak or Bob?

Who gives a fuck about Bob? If you guys hate him that much open a new thread about him. I hope he did dump his Cloak if he was holding to some, were better off without him. I would be an idiot to listen to Bob, I am pretty sure he stirred shit up profiting from Cloak and Dark.

Could we stop talking about this Bob character and move on topic?

OK.

I've made the assumption, possibly incorrectly, that there are a lot of educated, technically or scientifically minded people here. With that assumption, I set a high burden of proof before I am convinced of something. I hold mostly bitcoin, > 75%, but of my other holdings, drk is the largest, I have bought back in a few days ago.

I see a definable, demonstrable chain of evolution for drk. I see past ideas evolve into well used open source, technology, x11, dgw.

Here is my problem. Version 1.0 was the central mixer, now we are lead to believe the new version is a completely different idea. That is not evolution and appears to be a stall tactic.

The evidence I see presented is, a bunch of colluding 'dudes', with a known conflict of interest, saying trust us, it works. This is not sufficient evidence for me. It may be sufficient evidence for you. I take very little information, even from family and colleagues, on the basis of "trust me".

Here is my question. What kind of evidence do you, or others here, believe is necessary to convince the silent majority?

BAHAHA!!! what a dumb ass... The evidence I see presented is, a bunch of colluding 'dudes', with a known conflict of interest, saying trust us, it works. This is not sufficient evidence for me. It may be sufficient evidence for you. I take very little information, even from family and colleagues, on the basis of "trust me". I SAY THE SAME TO THE DARKCOIN AND THERE PRECIOUS RC4

But your claim is not correct. I have been following the evolution of the master nodes from rc2, they exist and they are working, implementation of payments was successful in rc3 though there was a bug in the voting system causing forks, further revision corrected the forking..

This is a chain of evidence and evolution. You can not claim these events did not occur?

Calling me a dumbass does not constitute evidence that will convince the majority. Can you address my original question?

[drizzle2405]

If there are any darkcoin holders in here, please stop fudding and trolling, there is no need for this, lets behave as adults, instead of aggitate cloakcoin holders..

Darkcoin and Cloakcoin aim for becoming anonymous, both in different ways, and whoever chooses what, doesnt matter, the reason people invest in diffferent coins comes from, whichever coin they feel has the best features / future..

I would like to extend an appology to cloakcoin holders / devs for the fud/trolling..


CHAOSiTEC

+1

DRK thread was turning into a bit of a freak show as well lately.

Plenty of room in the market for more than one Anon coin.

Good luck all.

The whole forum has gone to shit lately.  There's no sugar coating it...  Everyone needs to stop bitching across the forums.  Stop trolling.  Stop mashing other coins.

KEEP YOUR OWN SHIT IN YOUR OWN FORUM.

Problem solved.  Simple as that.  Question is whether others will listen.

[nsimmons]

We just gave the new wallet with posa to the atcsource or whatever its called and their has been an open beta. We do trust them because we have the wallets and have used them. Your the idiot.

Your atrocious grammar leads me to believe you are a teenager.
Calling me an idiot would surely pass the peer review process and constitute evidence.

Can you address my question. What evidence is necessary to convince the majority? I would suggest challenging litecoins market cap a signal that the majority are convinced.

When everyone one is convinced, you will all be rich. What specific events should I be watching for?

[DaveyJones]

For those of you guys, who have not followed #cloakcoin on IRC today, there are some fresh news from one of the main developers, posted some minutes ago. Enjoy!

x11joe: I'm working on encrypted messaging first.
x11joe: That is the first step to secure communication for the market.
x11joe: I'm working on that now actually .
x11joe: It's actually not as hard as I thought to implement.
x11joe: You guys know how encrypted messaging works right?
x11joe: If not I can give quick explanation
x11joe: first if you have not watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?x11joe: v=GSIDS_lvRv4
x11joe: this explains public/private keys very well
x11joe: and is very key to understanding this system
x11joe: When someone creates a listing they get a public/private key pair
x11joe: You encrypt your messages using the listee's public key.
x11joe: this means only he can decrypt it with his private key
x11joe: you then send this out to all nodes on the network
x11joe: as an example...
x11joe: lets say we had 50 people
x11joe: I'm handing all 50 people the message
x11joe: they all try to decrypt with their private keys
x11joe: but only the person I sent to can do it succesfully
x11joe: then within that message, they can prove it's me because I encrypt a validation token using my private key, and give them my public key in the encrypted message
x11joe: yes
x11joe: to everyone else it looks like giberish
x11joe: it's actually a simple concept once you get it
x11joe: this does require constant scanning of the database of the messages.
x11joe: but it's not that bad
x11joe: so might be 30 second delay on getting messages
x11joe: but worth it for security
x11joe: Anyways just wanted to share that so you know what I'm doing first
x11joe: so expect to see that in the next major update
x11joe: its the first step before one market.

for you drizzle, enjoy

[TheDagger]

Update:

There's been quite a lot of pressure for us to release in greater details, information about our finished anon product.

The whitepaper was deliberately made sparse to avoid attempts at copying from an early stage.

Cloak PoSA is well advanced now so we can now reveal a more indepth paper that shows how our finished Proof of Stake Anonymity system works.

PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.





A first look at CloakPal coming tomorrow.