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501  Other / Off-topic / Re: Israel's future war: War of God and Magog on: August 01, 2014, 03:32:44 PM
That's the thing about obscure, unspecific, nonsensical "prophesy", you can make it say anything you'd like.
502  Other / Off-topic / Re: Israel's future war: War of God and Magog on: August 01, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
Zolace do understand that Rigon's version of Gog & MaGog carries as much intellectual weight does Winnie The Pooh getting his nose unstuck from  of a honey jar.
503  Other / Off-topic / Re: Israel's future war: War of God and Magog on: August 01, 2014, 03:24:18 PM
As a nation?  I do.  At least, Zachariah is talking about the Jews turning to Him who they have pierced and mourning over it.

The temple - I dont remember if it is mentioned in Revelation.  But, you see in the epistles the writers referring to the Old Testament - they accepted it as the Word of God, as did Jesus.  So (and I am not familiar with the passages), if it does refer to a rebuilt temple in the future, I would not discount it simply because it is in the OT
Of course you don't "remember". It was never a part of your religious brainwashing Sunday School class.

Piefoot is correct in mentioning  that the Messiah will rebuild the Temple. That's Jewish tradition.

 Is just making this up as he goes according to whatever Christian bullshit artists he happens to be listening to at the moment.
504  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jury: Ventura Verdict - Wins $1.84 Million on: August 01, 2014, 03:18:55 PM
If everyone thought as you imagine they do -- "he looks like the idiot and bully he is for harassing blah blah blah" -- they would have come right back with a verdict for the defendant/  Obviously some are on Ventura's side.

I don't believe they have to have a unanimous verdict in a civil matter.  I've never heard of a requirement for a unanimous verdict in a civil matter in Minnesota.
It could also be the other way around, with the lone holdout supporting Ventura.
Well then, I guess the judge needs to go back a read the law.


But U.S. District Judge Richard Kyle told the jurors to “give it one more shot” and asked them to resume deliberations, noting that his instructions required a unanimous verdict.
Sure.  It could be split in half, or any combination thereof.

Just read the article that explained that in this very unique circumstance, indeed a unanimous verdict is required.  I've done lots of jury trials -- mostly criminal -- where unanimous verdicts were required, and a jury instruction to the jury in criminal trials goes something like, "You may have served on juries in civil matters where you can return a so-called fractional verdict.  In criminal cases, verdicts must be unanimous."  The handful of civil trials I've done have all been non-unanimous verdicts.
505  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jury: Ventura Verdict - Wins $1.84 Million on: August 01, 2014, 03:01:06 PM
If everyone thought as you imagine they do -- "he looks like the idiot and bully he is for harassing blah blah blah" -- they would have come right back with a verdict for the defendant/  Obviously some are on Ventura's side.

I don't believe they have to have a unanimous verdict in a civil matter.  I've never heard of a requirement for a unanimous verdict in a civil matter in Minnesota.
It could also be the other way around, with the lone holdout supporting Ventura.
506  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: August 01, 2014, 01:29:49 PM
Take something like an auto legacy gt out for a ride in the rain or snow, so you don't have to worry about biasing your torque and it's easier to see what's up. You can do things that seem so unnatural and impossible while accelerating or turning. You can also use power very easily to recover. Much more than rwd or fwd can come anywhere close to. There's physics to consider. Pretty simple really.
507  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: August 01, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
umair127 is missing the point. Not everyone drifts on their way to work, but they may still enjoy a vehicle that is fun within the limits defined by their daily driving.
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He never said they corner better. He said that at the extremes of grip, they're easier to recover and safer.

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He didn't express that very well. ...

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For zipping around town FWD is fine and responds more safely at the limit of grip. Usually better MPGs and increased interior room per wheelbase.
Ya it still was not explained well in my perception, because i'm coming from the perspective of someone who knows how to drive and can corner faster and safer in rwd/awd.
Cool, bro. It's still easier (and safer) to recover from grip loss in a FWD than a RWD and the sort of slide FWD is prone to is safer for public road use. That aside, you still get more interior room per wheelbase. The lack of a transmission hump, drive-shaft tunnel, rear diff & axles makes a huge difference.

In comparing rwd to fwd, you could argue all of that. Mostly because it's based on personal preference. Except for the front end creep problem. I would much rather the back end slide some than lose traction in the wheels that steer. Come around a corner very fast and hit unexpected wet pavement or gravel in fwd and see what happens. You argue that it's easier to recover, but it can create it's own specific situations in certain conditions. I just don't prefer it to rwd.

But whatever. There's nothing fwd can do that a good awd system can't do better. Drives better and feels more confident, and has more options for successful recovery in an emergency.
508  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: July 31, 2014, 05:05:32 PM
umair127 is missing the point. Not everyone drifts on their way to work, but they may still enjoy a vehicle that is fun within the limits defined by their daily driving.
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He never said they corner better. He said that at the extremes of grip, they're easier to recover and safer.

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He didn't express that very well. ...

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For zipping around town FWD is fine and responds more safely at the limit of grip. Usually better MPGs and increased interior room per wheelbase.
Ya it still was not explained well in my perception, because i'm coming from the perspective of someone who knows how to drive and can corner faster and safer in rwd/awd.
509  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: July 31, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
The single last thing I want to say is that if I start to understeer, I hit the throttle to kick the back end out a little to compensate. I try not to brake anywhere once i'm fully into in a corner. I guess the bottom line is that fwd is best for amateur drivers. Again, not trying to hate on anyone that prefers fwd, because there are some great fun fwd cars. I love the feel of a civic hatch and some mazdas. They are front wheel drive perfection, while the 02 altima se that i had was an example of complete failure. Overall though, to an experienced driver, fwd is clearly inferior. Imho it's not worth a couple grand savings and trying to justify whatever flawed logic to spend 25 or whatever k on a performance oriented wrong wheel drive car. The idea behind spending extra for speed is that it's the most fun possible. Why I really miss s2k so much.
510  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: July 31, 2014, 04:39:51 PM
He never said they corner better. He said that at the extremes of grip, they're easier to recover and safer.
He didn't express that very well. Preference in handling dynamics is quite subjective anyway, so I relent. It's clear he is a fwd enthusiast, and I'm totally ok with that.
511  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you eat this? on: July 31, 2014, 04:25:39 PM
Speaking of writhing, living 'meat,' how about Casu Marzu?  Sardinian (and Corsican) cheese that's processed with fly larvae, whose intestinal juices produce a unique flavor in the fermentation process.  When disturbed -- as they naturally would be when cheese is being eaten -- they can launch themselves several inches.  Buon appetito. 
Casu marzu is considered to be unsafe to eat by Sardinian aficionados when the maggots in the cheese have died. Because of this, only cheese in which the maggots are still alive is usually eaten, although allowances are made for cheese that has been refrigerated, which can kill the maggots. When the cheese has fermented enough, it is often cut into thin strips and spread on moistened Sardinian flatbread (pane carasau), to be served with a strong red wine. Casu marzu is believed to be an aphrodisiac by Sardinians.Because the larvae in the cheese can launch themselves for distances up to 15 centimetres (6 in) when disturbed, diners hold their hands above the sandwich to prevent the maggots from leaping. Some who eat the cheese prefer not to ingest the maggots. Those who do not wish to do so place the cheese in a sealed paper bag. The maggots, starved for oxygen, writhe and jump in the bag, creating a "pitter-patter" sound. When the sounds subside, the maggots are dead and the cheese can be eaten.
Though it would have been worse had he tried the casu marzu, that sounds absolutely disgusting. "Waiter, a maggot just jumped into my eye..."



Anyone ever hear of Swedish "Surstomming"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iebNdCSqWmc
512  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: July 31, 2014, 03:49:54 PM
The things the MS3 definitely has over the ST are time-on-market and aftermarket support. The MS3 has been around since 2007, so it's a well-known vehicle and any bugs or shortcomings have been resolved by either Mazda or the aftermarket. MazdaspeedForums is a jackpot of info and advice for the MS3 and there are several manufacturers and vendors who offer a huge range of reliability and performance upgrades. New Mini is like the New Beetle.Old: AwesomeNew: Lulz
Why fwd? You prefer the torque steer feel or just trying to save a couple k?
For zipping around town FWD is fine and responds more safely at the limit of grip. Usually better MPGs and increased interior room per wheelbase.
Responds more safely at the point of grip? Maybe some fwd with a good lsd you might be able to push into corners as well as other drivetrains, but I've felt as confident in only one of my fwd vehicles. But then after a few years i lost the front around a corner and drove into a rail while driving at the edge of handling. After aggressively driving for over 10 years in fwd, awd and rwd vehicles, I seriously question your assertion.
Better to understeer, brake, and regain control than lose the ass end and head backwards towards whatever direction your momentum is going to carry you.
I'm sure we could find some numbers that reflect what type of drivetrain corners best.

Maybe they should make corvettes, lambos and whatever fwd. They would corner better according to your logic. What are all these producers of performance vehicles thinking? They need you on the team man.
513  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: July 31, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
The things the MS3 definitely has over the ST are time-on-market and aftermarket support. The MS3 has been around since 2007, so it's a well-known vehicle and any bugs or shortcomings have been resolved by either Mazda or the aftermarket. MazdaspeedForums is a jackpot of info and advice for the MS3 and there are several manufacturers and vendors who offer a huge range of reliability and performance upgrades. New Mini is like the New Beetle.Old: AwesomeNew: Lulz
Why fwd? You prefer the torque steer feel or just trying to save a couple k?
For zipping around town FWD is fine and responds more safely at the limit of grip. Usually better MPGs and increased interior room per wheelbase.
Responds more safely at the point of grip? Maybe some fwd with a good lsd you might be able to push into corners as well as other drivetrains, but I've felt as confident in only one of my fwd vehicles. But then after a few years i lost the front around a corner and drove into a rail while driving at the edge of handling. After aggressively driving for over 10 years in fwd, awd and rwd vehicles, I seriously question your assertion.
514  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: July 31, 2014, 03:35:04 PM
I'd go with the Mazda. Tiny little asian beasts. I like that, hehe. Aren't those also available in the Need For Speed Underground games?
yes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrKw3iT6vNg
515  Other / Off-topic / Re: focus st vs mazda speed3 vs hyundai veloster which to buy? on: July 31, 2014, 03:32:11 PM
The things the MS3 definitely has over the ST are time-on-market and aftermarket support. The MS3 has been around since 2007, so it's a well-known vehicle and any bugs or shortcomings have been resolved by either Mazda or the aftermarket. MazdaspeedForums is a jackpot of info and advice for the MS3 and there are several manufacturers and vendors who offer a huge range of reliability and performance upgrades. New Mini is like the New Beetle.Old: AwesomeNew: Lulz
Why fwd? You prefer the torque steer feel or just trying to save a couple k?
516  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you eat this? on: July 31, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
And besides, I really don't consider individual burger joints as fast food. Food fast, yes, but fast food, no. People need to support local business, and getting out and trying a new burger is a good way to do it.
517  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you eat this? on: July 31, 2014, 02:33:07 PM
If that's cheese I'd eat it. It's a sin NOT to eat something that has melted cheese on it, and I know how much you want to avoid going to hell.
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519  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which major US Cable TV News Channel do you prefer ?? on: July 29, 2014, 10:12:24 AM
I like Fox News and CNN. It is alright that Fox News is fairly conservative and CNN is slightly liberal. They both try to be fair and balanced; no pun intended. But MSNBC is way too left-wing for me.
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