Great, so selling at 0.008 BTC/NMC nets me a nice 23.5% increase in BTC income + helps the NMC network!  Maybe also have a look at http://bitcoincharts.com/about/exchanges/ to integrate in their charts - might give you quite a boost. |
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It will say to itself "This is humbug!" and not forward this block to others/not include this block into it's own database.
More or less a become a "hole" in the network, where "illegal" blocks get dumped.
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Just to make sure if I got it correctly: Difficulty in BTC and NMC is calculated exactly the same? This means I can easily calculate how many NMC I would mint instead of BTC and using the conversion rate, if it would pay off...  |
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I'd rather have a standardized "Fee sheet" that can be handed out by pools/miners, stating which kinds of transactions they will include and which main nodes they operate (to directly send transactions to).
Import this document to your client and you can be sure that at least this mining entity will accept the transactions you make. Import several (all?) and your client will determine the cheapest fee for your transaction (or the fastest one, which fits most "fee sheets").
Clients could even "announce" their fee schema to other clients, so after some time each client knows the fee schemas of the whole network. I'm not sure how this can be done in a distributed non-spammable way though and I think for "fee sheets" a central repository might be better, which again goes against the distributed nature of BTC. This would however be a client feature, not a protocol feature.
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weil du als händler weisst, dass du sie erstens selbst herstellen kannst, indem du die restlichen zweidrittel zur bank bringst und zweitens, weil das dir angebotene drittel sicher ist, weil sein rest auf der bank liegt ;-)
Sein Rest existiert gar nicht mehr, da die (Noten-)Bank den Schein einstampfen und entwerten wird. Stattdessen bekommst du sofort auf Wunsch einen neuen ganzen Schein ausgehändigt etc. Man kann (in einem gewissen Rahmen natürlich) BELIEBIG viele 1/3 Scheine herstellen, theoretisch so schnell, wie die Notenbank mit nachdrucken ist. Die Dinger sind auch durch nichts gedeckt, da ich 500€ zerschneiden, einzahlen, abheben, zerschneiden, einzahlen, abheben... kann und dann mit 100 "500€ Dritteln" dastehe, aber nur 500€ auf der Bank habe. |
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Dabei zahlt man wohl auch hauptsächlich die Internetanbindung mit, und für die ist in dem Falle zwar wichtig, dass sie ununterbrochen läuft - braucht aber nicht sehr flott zu sein, viel was an Daten geht da nicht in's Netz.
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Ah, 772 5870 GPUs... Mal schauen, ob man den für ein paar Stündchen auch mieten kann! "Academic Research" für einen Testangriff auf Bitcoin kann man ja vielleicht sogar als echten Grund verwenden. Das Ding sollte immerhin allein mit den GPUs sowas um die 300 Gigahash/s schaffen, also ~5% des derzeitigen Netzwerks von ~6 Terahash/s |
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Das wäre mein "Traum-Miner"  Meiner nicht, der läuft sicher mit nVidia GPUs! Außerdem ist die Integer-performance nicht angegeben, und auf die kommt es bei Bitcoin hauptsächlich an. Auch den RAM und den HDD Speicher könnte man sich locker sparen.  |
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I pay $.10/kwh so these cards are absolute steal at that price. Sadly, mine are also in transit.  This means your 5830 cards are better than any other card for ~570 days hashes solved per USD invested wise. However this does not mean that you will mine the most BTC! If the system keeps growing, the higher initial burst you can get, the better. At nearly any price/cost. |
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AFAIK, you don't need the hdd, so that's 60€ saved. Just use a flash drive with some linux distro on it. Sure, flash drives allow only a limited amount of write cycles, but OTOH they're cheap. Don't forget you can sell the hardware when mining is no longer profitable for you. If you're interested in a more long-term investment, you might want to look into FPGA mining. That will be future-proof even with the "Energiewende" coming closer now and energy costs likely to increase. FPGAs won't give you 1ghash/s unless you're willing to invest more, but they have pretty low energy costs. If selling hardware nets you less than 6 BTC are worth at the time you sell it (going with the buying 56 BTC vs. mining 50 BTC example here), you still lost. FPGAs take a LOT of time until they become more profitable than GPUs, thanks to immense initial hardware costs. Think of timeframes of 2-3 years here. They might need less "overhead" (CPU, RAM...) though, so they might even pay off already after 1.5 years.  However this "payoff" calculation does not take into account growth - if you take this into account as well (and believe that difficulty will not settle at current values), getting the highest possible hashrate you can possibly get asap. will bring the best mining results. |
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Ich erkläre ihn damit, dass dieses Feature extra deswegen NACH diesem Vorfall eingeführt wurde! |
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Do you have to specify a receive address on the local machine? Currently I keep my wallet totally separate from my miners. Will this work with eligius?
An address is just a combination of numbers and letters - how should this require a wallet? Yes, you shoud/have to enter a payout address. No, you don't need a wallet.dat next to your miner for this (hint: Pen and paper can also store an address!) |
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It reduces bandwidth - however mining uses far less than PCIex1 can provide.
Gaming would not be advisable with this though...
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@sukrim Vielleicht kannst du dir auch von wem hier MTGoxUSD gegen Euro/PayPalUSD kaufen?
Kapier ich nicht so richtig. Wie soll so was ablaufen? Kann man das irgendwo nachlesen? Thread eröffnen, sagen dass man 18 PPUSD für 17.5 MTGOXUSD bietet (immer noch billiger als manche Europreise die gezahlt werden) und hoffen, dass jemand drauf einsteigt. Generell fürchten aber ohnehin viele Leute, dass der Kurs fallen dürfte, daher ist es vielleicht gar nicht so schlecht, wenn du noch ein bisschen gezwungen wirst zu warten. |
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Siehe z.B. in meiner Signatur:
Wenn du eine Addresse (quasi eine "Kontonummer") eingibst, siehst du welche Transaktionen darauf durchgeführt wurden.
Allerdings kann jeder Nutzer quasi beliebig viele verschiedene Kontonummern haben, daher kannst du daraus nicht ablesen, dass ich insgesamt 0 BTC besitze - nur das noch niemand BTC an diese Adresse geschickt hat.
Transaktionen haben ebenfalls eine ID, die kann man auf Blockexplorer ebenfalls nachvollziehen.
Du könntest also hergehen und nach entweder der Adresse an die du BTC geschickt hast oder (noch besser) der Transaktions-ID suchen und bekämst den genauen Output wann diese Transaktion durchgeführt wurde.
Diese Information kann jeder einzelne Bitcoin client bestätigen.
Das ist der transparente Teil an Bitcoin.
Der anonyme Teil daran ist, dass man einerseits nicht wissen kann, wem welche Adresse(n) gehört/gehören und andererseits man eben auch nicht mit Namen etc. operiert sondern nur mit (langen) "Kontonummern". In der Hinsicht ist Bitcoin also ein riesiges Nummernkontensystem, bei dem aber jeder jede Kontobewegung einsehen kann.
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Ah yes, and downtime/stale shares.
If you mine, you are dependent on: 100% internet uptime, no electricity problems, no problems with the mining pool(s) you are using, 0 hardware/software/OS errors, no problems with cooling and the "woman factor" ("That computer in the living room is too loud, honey!")
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If you buy BTC:
56,21 BTC at current rates (give or take a bit)
Just sum up your generated coins... It will be less. The question is: Are the fewer coins worth more or less than your hardware is worth after a certain point of time or not?
Also currently 100 MH/s are worth a whopping ~4USD/day! Please expect this value to go down a LOT over time... You are calculating with extremely mining friendly staring numbers here.
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Bis die Überweisung dort angekommen ist, ist der Kurs doch ohnehin wieder ganz anders...
Überleg dir lieber einen fixen Wert (sowas wie "Ich kauf mir BTC um 50 EUR") und überweise den - dann siehst du, was du hast.
Paypal wird gerne für Betrügereien genutzt, daher ist es eher verpönt (außerdem wurde ein BTC <--> PayPal Portal von PayPal selbst dicht gemacht, mit der Begründung "das mögen wir nicht").
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Momentan leider nicht wirklich, außer vielleicht hier im Forum betterln oder selbst minen kommt man nicht allzu flott an BTC heran... Vielleicht kannst du dir auch von wem hier MTGoxUSD gegen Euro/PayPalUSD kaufen?
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At 1000USD/piece they are below average at best... and get beaten for more than a YEAR by 2/3 of the cards on that list! They just catch up with a 6870 after 3 years...
Even though eBay charges now a whopping 10% fee, this might be a good point now for some people to start selling 5970s and (if they want to continue mining) buying 5870s/5830s and BTC directly.
Most newies will not do these calculations and get trapped deeply and quickly in some VERY bad deals with this, as they most likely only look at "MAX HASHRATE = MAX INCOME!".
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Tawsix
my idea above is a maximum growth strategy. take all revenue from either production or ipo share sales and buy rigs up until the pt u have the original # rigs u proposed which was around 39 i believe. only then pay dividends. i for one would be more excited at seeing the #rigs and production increase as rapidly as possible which i think alone would drive share sales and prices in the long run. most of us here who bought @ .75, i presume, were in it for the longterm altho clearly there were the flippers too who i think were the minority of buyers at that price. and then there are those who just want a payout asap in the form of dividends.
my only other word of advice fwiw is that you need to realize u wouldn't be having as many problems with shares sales and price if u hadn't let confidence slip during that 1-2 wk period by not posting. share price is all about management perception (and eventually fundamental value). just simply posting everyday and updates would have you in a better position today than you are. and its not too late to do this. just keep posting, continue to show progress as you are, slowly increase production and you'll get thru this. there's nothing but a bright shiny future ahead for btc in general and mining in particular. you just need to learn how to ride the wave.
Ah, now I understand, you want to get to 39 computers as fast as humanly possible, then payout dividends once we get there. Do you think that we should ever enter back into the growth phase, or just stick to 39 computers indefinitely? I would suggest calculating a USD per 100MH/s rate above which it is more profitable to sell mined BTC (and expand business) and below which it might pay off more to keep (or pay out) BTC to investors, since they are not very profitable to be sold anyways. Currently 100 MH/s net over 4 USD/day, so I would advise on selling the mined BTC for USD as fast as possible. After the difficulty increase this will very likely melt down very fast, so it might be more wise to keep them. In the end I wnat you do do something like in this thread: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7427.0 |
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