Your post there is much closer to what I've been thinking. Note I am still looking at issues and trying to further improve what I have in mind.

One of the keys is that it must be impossible to censor a transaction based on UXTO.

Please remember the millions of users we are targeting aren't here on bitcointalk.org.

Investors are here. Investors are not emotional otherwise they are not good investors.

Non-emotional people could read this thread objectively.

Investors want to make money.

I already asked could we wrap this up.

You keep hoping against hope that I am a failure. Amazing human trait. Is it jealousy or what? People love to see other people crash and burn, especially when that despised person isn't an ass licker.

Hi tromp. Good to hear from you again.

Communicating in an overly simplistic language that is not semantically expressive is thus more complex.

It never ceases to amaze me how linear most people think. People latch onto to one perspective on an issue and lose the ability to see over the forest.  Whether it be conflating 'delegation' with 'trust' and 'centralization'. Or in this case conflating simplicity of syntax and operational semantics, with overall semantics.

Dude if you don't understand how hard I have worked and that I do not want a red warning label on my user profile stating erroneously that I am a scammer, then perhaps you shouldn't invest in my efforts if they ever come public.

I am perfectly happy if you miss the train. Your loss not mine.

I have not solicited money from any one in the public. I have not launched any coin.


That may be true. And again I will reiterate that we'll have to see how the damages play out.

I am just warning Smoothie he is playing with fire and he would be wise to value his ego less than his house. I hate to see him have to lose his house just to prove to him that he needs to control himself and not go treating other people's reputation as if it is a toy.

I think that is enough discussion already don't you?

I hope this is all clear now.

Can we stop wasting more time on this thread now?

And you have proven that?

You have your pet delusions just like everyone else is entitled to have. That doesn't change the fact that having your personal opinions is disjoint from the action of slandering someone's global profile by pasting a red "he is a scammer" message on it ex post facto.

You having your (incorrect) personal opinion is a risk that anyone who joins a forums understands they will incur.

Edit: oh and yes it will hold up in court according to my attorney, but the key is proving the level of damages. That is what determines whether it is actionable.

You do not understand the way property rights work.

I have 2.5 years of reputation here in this forum. That is my personal property right. I own my reputation here on this forum.

I can't just move that investment some where and have it retain its value.

Any libel (unproven statements which damage that reputation) against that personal property is culpable under the law.


The red warning message says I am a scammer. There is not sufficient evidence I am a scammer. Thus it is not correct and is culpable under the law.


I am not wasting my time by notifying him that he is accruing potential financial culpability for his actions.

Whether I pursue that or not, depends on the level of damages that accrue.

Personally I hate to use the legal system. But I also hate punks who steal from others with impunity. We end up with a thug mentality society. Actually Hawaii has this reputation. The young locals will treat you very poorly if you are an outsider. They live in their insular, spoiled world. And perhaps Smoothie needs to learn about the real world and about the cost of fucking with people for no good reason.

Smoothie is not anonymous. I already know his real name and where he lives.

I am not anonymous.

If you think investing 2.5 years of my life in this space is a joke, then I assume you don't understand the value of work.

Again as I said upthread, what Smoothie has done is equal to theft.

Now it has been sufficiently explained to him, so he can not later argue that he did not understand.

I don't think you understand the legal system.

If you take advantage of a feature which allows you to put a red warning label on a user's profile as seen every where in the community, and you do so without sufficient evidence, you have created a culpability under the law. Damages can be sued for as a civil court matter. Now whether one can win such a case is open to opinion.

Actually the correct technical term in this case is libel, not slander, as it is a written statement he has made.

Let me add that simply expressing an opinion in a forum would be much more difficult to prove since I chose to participate in the forum. And the nature of a forum is to express opinions in threads.

However, the feature which enables any person to put a red warning of scammer on another user's 2.5 year reputation without any requirement for sufficient evidence, is not a normal forum feature which one submits to by joining a discussion forum.

He is making a global impact on the user's profile ex post facto (every past post of the user gets that new red warning label).

Smoothie, I am going to put it to you a different way and I hope you can understand. My father (same name as myself) is a very powerful attorney. He was the former West Coast Division head attorney running the entire Alaska operation for Exxon. He rose up higher than that being a general counsel for THUMS the consortium of the oil companies.

Remove the slander or you may find yourself in a lawsuit that could be very damaging to your financial well being.

And next time, don't play games with people's reputations, because this isn't a fucking game. I invested 2.5 years of my life here. And I have earned up to $100,000 a month in the past (inflation adjusted) in the past. Thus consider the value of potential damages by slandering my forum user profile with a red warning message which is not backed up by sufficient evidence of scamming.

Every day that you leave that abuse of ion.cash, which is being recorded and accrued for damages on a daily basis, the more you are digging your financial grave.

I hope I put that in a language that a little punk weasel like you can understand.

Do consult with your attorney so he can advise you on this matter. I would also advise Theymos to consult with his attorney as well.

I told you yesterday, remove the slander and I will kiss and make up. But if you push this much longer, I will never forgive you for this mess.

All you did was abuse the Trust rating system for your own personal problem.

Any one with half a brain can see you are trying to be weasel.

You are trying to use every sly technique you can to slander me while trying to make it look like you are not.

I have not solicited money from the general community nor from n00bs.

I have two angel investors, both of whom are programmers and developers and understand very well what they are investing in.

Thus you have no right whatsoever to "protect the community" from your allegations of my untrustworthiness.

You are digging around trying to slander me because you are embarrassed that you didn't understand that "delegation != requires trust != requires centralization", even after I explained it to you 3 times politely and then 2 more times slightly more forcefully, before you went off slandering me which was well before I called you an asshole.

Little weasel punks like you will get what you deserve in the end.

Any more non-meritorious, unprofessional FUD?

Except as your analogy applies to Satoshi's proof-of-work design, then the free parking is not accessible by anyone who has a car because it is on the top of a skyscraper[1]. The only people who can access this free parking must either have a helicopter or they must pool their resources to buy one.

Myopic blind spots like this smooth cause us to waste time in discussion.


[1] Because the hashrate needed to win a block any time within this century is inaccessible to your average person sending a transaction to the network.

I have given r0ach a private message with a very strong hint as to how I accomplish my design.

Find my answer there. I am "Shelby Moore III":

http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/176665/generics-and-type-erasure

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/57643/focus=57918 (Linus Torvalds)

http://whydoesitsuck.com/cpp-sucks-for-a-reason/

http://flyx.org/2014/04/24/cpp_sucks/