I'm sure you realize it now, but for the sake of others that stop by and read this thread...

This, right here, is one very important reason NOT to import private keys.

Spendulus now doesn't know if his backups are adequate or not.  If he never imported seeds, he wouldn't need to worry about it.  I'm sure at the time of importing the seed, it didn't seem like a big deal. He either figured that he would remember to store the private key separately, or he thought he'd remember to back it up separately.

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Spendulus,

The only keys that really matter are the keys you are using.  I'm neither an Armory nor Electrum expert, but I think both of them offer some sort of "coin control" features that allow you to see which addresses have bitcoins on them?  If so, then it should be possible to generate a long list of addresses from the seed and see if any of the addresses in use are not on that list.

Bitcoin and and bcash have completely different views for the future. Bitcoin is evolving as a digital commodity, and bcash is just trying to pursuit the new payment method option. Bitcoin is way ahead of every other cryptocoin out there, if we talk about the digital commodity path. Institutional money is cumming to the market, so bitcoin is on it's way to become a new asset in Wall Street. No other coin is getting any attention from big investors, like BTC is. Except for maybe ethereum, but for completely different reasons, since ether works more as a platform to invest in "start ups".

As for bcash, like I said, is completely focused in being a form of payment, so it's not really competing with bitcoin. Is actually competing with dash, or monero, and to be honest I would prefer any of these two in comparison to bcsh. So for me, the only reason we see bcash this high, when we compare it to dash for example, is because it is taking advantage of the "bitcoin name".

As for technology, it is ahead of bitcoin right now, in terms of transactions, but again that is not important for BTC right now, because it is evolving as "digital gold" and not a payment option. In the future, the Lightning network will be a much better option for scalability than the block increase, so bcash will continue to struggle, and BTC will be able to move as a well establish digital asset, to a form of payment.

For me, this is the reason why bcash is not king, and never will be, and I still think it will probably fail as a form of payment, when compared to the other options out there.

ok thanks. not exactly the kind of information that is staring at you in the face when researching about starting with bitcoin.
I checked out that link - hard to tell what is real and not real in there with some of the posts.  I'm guising localbit coins has it's own built in Escrow.  I'll see what I can figure out. Hard for a newbie to get into buying their first fraction of bitcoin these days, bet it was easier when bitcoin first arrived.  

i would like to say thank you very much,guru!!

Why is using energy "bad for the ecology" in and of itself. Or "bad for sustainability". Sustaining what?


Is this some kind of malthusian scientific case for genocide you're presenting? (all human activity, eating and breathing especially, consumes energy, it's called being alive)

Why are you presenting these vague, unscientific assumptions to be in any way relevant to Bitcoin's hashing security

I’ll tip you tomorrow too - Tired man today, going to stick my head in a cold bucket before I send more coins over tomorrow

I sent 0.01587494 bitcoin with a 0.00000494BTC fee to an online market vendor. The transaction took 4 days to confirm by which time the market had cancelled the order. But it is confirmed now. This was over 3 weeks ago now but no bitcoin has come back into my electrum wallet. Do I have to do anything to get it back? Or will it eventually show up? Or is it in the vendors account or escrow? Any help would be really appreciated.

Here's the info from Blockchain if that's of any help.

Summary
Size                           226 (bytes)
Weight                   904
Received Time           2017-11-04 21:12:10
Included In Blocks   493094 ( 2017-11-04 21:12:10 + 0 minutes )
Confirmations           1871 Confirmations

Yes, it does have dumpwallet and dumpprivkey, but I didn't think the console was available till the sync completed.  Least thats what I had in my notes... for some reason.

I'll look at getting a vintage copy of PyWallet since I'm sure the wallet format on my file is way older than it's expecting.

Amen Brother... I have so many backups, it's a treat to try to find the real thing

I’m hoping someone can help with this issue, as I believe I have been robbed by bitstamp!
I sent 1 bitcoin some time ago to my receiving address at bitstamp, I was then informed that they had cancelled old addresses and that they would not honour my 1 bitcoin, how can this be?
Please see the reply email I received from them.
I would be most grateful with any help regarding getting my coin back, I don’t believe that they can’t do anything!
Email from bitstamp:

As already mentioned, our old private key has been cancelled due to security reasons and new addresses issued on our users' accounts. Unfortunately old deposit addresses are no longer linked to Bitstamp accounts.

We are unfortunately unable to honor or credit any bitcoins sent to old deposit addresses after 5th of January 2015 (9 a.m. UTC). We notified customers that they should stop making deposits to previously issued bitcoin deposit addresses. We published a public notification on our website, Facebook page, Twitter feed and also sent personal email notifications to our users' addressesP

I'm sorry that this is a level 11 amateur post...

I have a family member who got an email from blockchain stating:
This is an automated notice that your wallet account has been credited with funds in the amount of 0.54798743 BTC.

I would have chocked this up to spam or phishing, but that same family member remembers being gifted .5 bitcoin in 2011 and found a folder on their computer with the transaction number (am I even calling it the right thing? It's an empty folder named with the transaction number)

They don't remember ever opening a wallet, we created a new blockchain wallet as nothing was linked to her email.

Where do i even start?

Its all a lie, a fugazi, bs, nonsensical, and stupid. This is what the media wants you to believe that they are linked, that they are one in the same. But have you actual met a Muslim in real life? They are the nicest people you

will ever meet and they do not take part in many of the "sins" that we do in daily life. Dont be fooled by the media in the West they are always trying to put one over on you especially when it comes to terrorism.

I have installed bitcoin core on my laptop and noted down the wallet address and private key. I have transferred some BTC into the wallet. Is it safe to uninstall bitcoin core now?

I think your thinking is a little flawed here. Why would a customer go "Paypal -> Bitcoin -> You"... when they can go "Paypal -> You"? Likewise for CC... why "CC -> Bitcoin -> You"? Where is the "value add" for the customer to get involved in Bitcoin?

If you're not offering any incentive for using Bitcoin, what is the point? Only people who already have Bitcoins will use Bitcoins to pay you... otherwise, they'll just pay with Paypal or CC.

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The definition of a paperwallet is a wallet, which is created offline, with the private keys printed on a piece of paper (or otherwise stored in an offline way), without anything, apart from the public address, ever touching the internet until its funds are spent. After that, a paperwallet is not a paperwallet anymore.

Just a technicality here, but it doesn't matter whether it got "cancelled." The forking client was in the wild; there are still btc1 nodes online as we speak. The reason that the fork didn't occur is that the btc1 client broke. All btc1 nodes apparently got stuck at height #494,782 - 2 blocks before the fork was supposed to happen. I'm not sure that a block would have been mined once the fork occurred anyway, given the high difficulty and lack of user/service support.

I actually got "YOB2X" tokens credited to my account at 1:1 to my BTC on Yobit. I'm assuming this is due to B2X. People are buying it at 0.03-0.04 BTC for some bizarre reason.

.....2,023,005 bitcoins reside in addresses which have been untouched in over three years. ....

It makes me sad to think of all those abandoned BTC... I wish I could call them into my wallet and give them a nice home where they will be loved and cherished.

Ok, thanks for this as I wanted to make sure my thought process was correct on what is happening, which it seems it is.

I know I probably missed the boat on BCH and I am in no hurry to sell anything, but just thought it would be a good idea to finally get around to separating all these coins from one another so I can be in a better position going forward should one of the prices spike up again. But before I do anything I want to protect my btc which is my main concern for now.

Thanks again for the input, it is what I am looking for.

Now how cool is that. This solves my problem in Scene 1 (Still curious whats the relation between the hex and the 12 word seed)

And for the Scene 2 now, What encryption is used to encrypt the hex in Scene 1...
Any devs here to help?

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I'm confused. So can the "peer list poisoning" bug cause BCH and BTC lost ?
In short, if I import my wallet into electron cash, is there any chance I will lose my BTC and BCH ?

I understand it's better to transfer all of my BTC out before using electron cash but the network's fee now is so high, transfer 1.5 BTC costing me 0.16 (more than 10%  )