I hated to see how the first guy came and asked why we did trust you with our funds and the stupid discussion which started... but seeing this outcome he was absolutely right.
So lets see...I agreed to send the funds to whatever project the community decides on, but he was right?... If you say so... |
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Explain to me how can I verify if someone sent a donation if it is sent from an exchange? I would ask the person to send a small transaction to verify it is his/her account. I can't do that with an exchange. Nor will I be able to send the funds back to an exchange from the outgoing address.
While everyone may share a wallet on an exchange, they still have their own separate addresses. Verifying an exchange address would be no different than verifying a personal hot wallet address. Ask the users who sent from exchange address to withdraw a very small amount from their exchange wallet to verify. After verification, send refund back to that address. Then the user receives their coins back on the exchange where they originally came from. Not all exchanges do it this way. The address it "leaves" from is not the same unique address within the user's account. |
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I think he should give our money that we donated to the WS event to the foundation. And the foundation should assure to organize the WS event.
He should use the whole USD amount he obtained. Even if these are double the coins.
I as a donator would be fine with that.
You do not understand, this is not about the donation. I have already agreed to do whatever the community wants. This is the same people that trolled me everyday for weeks. For example, I am deleting their posts and they still insist on posting. So do not let the BS fool you, the donations will go where the community wants them to go. If nothing is decided and the community wants to wait until I get current with BC card orders, I will be more than happy to site down and take the time refund each donator directly to each person who wants a refund. Ok. I think nobody here wants to give the funds to the red cross. We donated for the WS event. I do not live in NYC. If not I would offer myself as an organizer. I think that the foundation is the only one everybody would agree on. They prooved to put 30.000 usd to the agreed end. Squandering our funds sending them to the red cross would be very nasty... Did you really write sending the funds to the Red Cross is squandering it? WOW.... And for the record the 15,000 the community raised did not all go the the PR firm yet. The PR firm is paid in monthly installments. They were not paid in full. |
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Ximp is demanding donations be returned but never donated. He is mad because he doesn't have the spotlight for creating the BC logo he ripped off. The "base" of the coin was from a template you can by on any stock photo site, and then he put the B over it and added some gradient. So now he wants to be recognized for his contribution, and he is mad I have been getting so much attention. The poor little guy is jealous. So to "show me", he is going to post here every few minutes...lol. Instead of this simpleton his his energy to post about BC on this forum and other forums, he rather spend his time trolling on person. I would hate to see what these guys do when they are attracted to a woman and the woman is not interested.
Link me to this template, I would love to see some proof! Oh wait, there is no template and once again you are full of hot air. Link me to the template! I'll donate 100,000 BLK to you if you can show a template that I used. Put up or shut up.I said I would donate if you released it and hadn't met the guidelines. Call my bluff! Show me the template and I promise I'll give you 100,00 BLK. What have you got to lose? All it takes is a copy and paste of the link to the template you say I used! How about this? Let's make a bet, We both send 100k BLK to a trusted escrow and if you can prove I used a template for the coin I'll donate that money so you can finish up this cheap marketing stunt. If you can't, I get the 100k BLK (only a small portion of your holdings, right?). Sound good? There's no way you can lose unless you are lying! LMFAO you are full of s..t. You said if the press release went live you would donate. There were no parameters or guidelines except the press release going live. Ximp you are a liar and a bitter troll. You are mad you are not in the spotlight and it pisses you off. |
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I think he should give our money that we donated to the WS event to the foundation. And the foundation should assure to organize the WS event.
He should use the whole USD amount he obtained. Even if these are double the coins.
I as a donator would be fine with that.
The correct and only sensible course of action is for IE to refund every person who donated money to him. If they want the money back of course. Explain to me how can I verify if someone sent a donation if it is sent from an exchange? I would ask the person to send a small transaction to verify it is his/her account. I can't do that with an exchange. Nor will I be able to send the funds back to an exchange from the outgoing address. |
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Ximp is demanding donations be returned but never donated. He is mad because he doesn't have the spotlight for creating the BC logo he ripped off. The "base" of the coin was from a template you can by on any stock photo site, and then he put the B over it and added some gradient. So now he wants to be recognized for his contribution, and he is mad I have been getting so much attention. The poor little guy is jealous. So to "show me", he is going to post here every few minutes...lol. Instead of this simpleton his his energy to post about BC on this forum and other forums, he rather spend his time trolling on person. I would hate to see what these guys do when they are attracted to a woman and the woman is not interested.
Link me to this template, I would love to see some proof! Oh wait, there is no template and once again you are full of hot air. Link me to the template! I'll donate 100,000 BLK to you if you can show a template that I used. Put up or shut up. |
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I think he should give our money that we donated to the WS event to the foundation. And the foundation should assure to organize the WS event.
He should use the whole USD amount he obtained. Even if these are double the coins.
I as a donator would be fine with that.
You do not understand, this is not about the donation. I have already agreed to do whatever the community wants. This is the same people that trolled me everyday for weeks. For example, I am deleting their posts and they still insist on posting. So do not let the BS fool you, the donations will go where the community wants them to go. If nothing is decided and the community wants to wait until I get current with BC card orders, I will be more than happy to site down and take the time refund each donator directly to each person who wants a refund. |
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Ximp is demanding donations be returned but never donated. He is mad because he doesn't have the spotlight for creating the BC logo he ripped off. The "base" of the coin was from a template you can by on any stock photo site, and then he put the B over it and added some gradient. So now he wants to be recognized for his contribution, and he is mad I have been getting so much attention. The poor little guy is jealous. So to "show me", he is going to post here every few minutes...lol. Instead of this simpleton his his energy to post about BC on this forum and other forums, he rather spend his time trolling on person. I would hate to see what these guys do when they are attracted to a woman and the woman is not interested.
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Because the price of all coins have dropped since the donations were made, it will cost IE LESS to refund everyone than he received in USD.
Why can't IE just refund everyone in the same coin they paid in? It will cost him LESS USD not MORE.
Or am I missing something?
No you are correct. And as I pointed out a few posts back it is not as simple as sending to an addresses. Many people sent donations from exchanges, and there were a lot of mico donations. It will be much simpler to send the funds in whole for another project which I already agreed to do. The rest is just noise from people who only existence is to follow me around this forum. Assdrake and Ximp were bullied as kids and now this is their chance to feel "big". |
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* IE furiously googles in hopes he will stumble upon a logo prior to and similar in any way to the blackcoin logo. *
Did you donate? You are here voicing your concern, but did you donate? Did you support the project? No way, I haven't trusted you ever since your first posts were asking for donations telling people to trust you and using obvious sock puppets to agree with you. It looks like my gut was right. |
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* IE furiously googles in hopes he will stumble upon a logo prior to and similar in any way to the blackcoin logo. *
Did you donate? You are here voicing your concern, but did you donate? Did you support the project? |
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And people wonder why I am leaving. The price of BC is roughly 8 cents, each envelope I use to send the BC cards cost more than the price of BC. People want to spend time posting FUD while the price is collapsing. The sad attempt at the pump a few minutes ago shows that BC needs help. BC is about to be out of the top 10 in market cap in the next few hours, and once again it is spread fud time. Some people just do not learn from past mistakes.
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just send the bc back to the adresses it came from. no need to verify nothing nada. u make it sound like a hard job but its the most easy shit in existence.
Simple right? Not all the donations come directly from personal Wallets, many came directly from exchanges. Proof? Go rip off another logo and stop posting here. You DID NOT DONATEand you are just here to troll. Stop with the fake outrage and go away. |
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OK, while I agree that charity is important and even became a well established PR model for crypto currencies (see doge), my vote would be to keep the money in the Blackcoin community. Since I understand that this shouldn't be a project that is related to the foundation (sry, I don't even want to be part of this discussion), my suggestion is the following: Convert the money to BC and put all of them on a BlackCoin card. Then lets make a big contest, maybe best new Blackcoin related product / project / video / whatever by someone coming from the community. For many people this price will be a huge incentive  EDIT: since its getting cluttered here, do you mind moving this to reddit? Sorry I do not post on Reddit anymore. When everyone calms down we will find a solution most people are happy with. The money is SAFE and not going anywhere. OK, I added your suggestions as quote in my post above and cross-posted it on reddit to direct other community members to this thread. Hopefully we'll have some nice response. http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/25n3sy/community_question_what_should_we_do_with_the/EDIT: Oh and I also posted your suggestion there (with reference to your msg here), so let me know if you want me to replace it by some other text and I will update it immediately. Noerc's suggestion on reddit is a good one. Have community members come up with a great proposal for a project to use the money to best help blackcoin. Whichever proposal has the most support gets to use the funds. Seems a better solution for blackcoin than refunds and the donations are going where they are meant to--to help blackcoin. |
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just send the bc back to the adresses it came from. no need to verify nothing nada. u make it sound like a hard job but its the most easy shit in existence.
Simple right? Not all the donations come directly from personal Wallets, many came directly from exchanges. |
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little recovery now.
the message of IE leaving spreads.
1. I am open to working with the community to finding something to do with the donations. I DO NOT WANT THE MONEY. THE MONEY IS SAFE.
2. I said I would stay until July and do everything I can to help BC. All I asked was for management to be changed. The community can decide on that, but Seopkip can't stay. Maarx is a great guy but he his too young and inexperienced. But he should remain on the team on the tech side.
But it seems to me everyone wants to double down on Soepkip although people are losing confidence. I will be in the other read to discuss meaningful options without FUD.Sorry, maybe stupid question but why should soepkip go? PLease don't tell me because of his pants cause then I'm going to shite myself... Soepkip should go because he is not the right man for the job. But at this point I do not care what happens. Whatever the community decides to do with the donations I will comply, and I will focus on the cards. I am done with the juvenile back and forth. |
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OK, while I agree that charity is important and even became a well established PR model for crypto currencies (see doge), my vote would be to keep the money in the Blackcoin community. Since I understand that this shouldn't be a project that is related to the foundation (sry, I don't even want to be part of this discussion), my suggestion is the following: Convert the money to BC and put all of them on a BlackCoin card. Then lets make a big contest, maybe best new Blackcoin related product / project / video / whatever by someone coming from the community. For many people this price will be a huge incentive EDIT: since its getting cluttered here, do you mind moving this to reddit? Sorry I do not post on Reddit anymore. When everyone calms down we will find a solution most people are happy with. The money is SAFE and not going anywhere. OK, I added your suggestions as quote in my post above and cross-posted it on reddit to direct other community members to this thread. Hopefully we'll have some nice response. http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/25n3sy/community_question_what_should_we_do_with_the/EDIT: Oh and I also posted your suggestion there (with reference to your msg here), so let me know if you want me to replace it by some other text and I will update it immediately. Ok thank you... |
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Hum...did ANYONE read the part about happy to move forward with the Wall Street event if the community makes a decision for change? If my goal is to "scam" the community I would just bail. No need to stick around right? Always the same BS...
They probably did,and most of them wants their money back. I guess that's a kind of answer..... You cant just take someone's money ant then say "ok,i will do with it what i said i'm gonna do,but on my own terms",and then be surprised when most of the people are pissed off.... Most people aren't pissed off. Just the same crowd that will find issue in whatever I do or say. Well,thats debatable....  I don't agree,but let's leave it on that. I dont have intention to argue about this. Everybody has right to opinion... Like I said I am willing to work with the community to find an amicable solution. |
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OK, while I agree that charity is important and even became a well established PR model for crypto currencies (see doge), my vote would be to keep the money in the Blackcoin community. Since I understand that this shouldn't be a project that is related to the foundation (sry, I don't even want to be part of this discussion), my suggestion is the following: Convert the money to BC and put all of them on a BlackCoin card. Then lets make a big contest, maybe best new Blackcoin related product / project / video / whatever by someone coming from the community. For many people this price will be a huge incentive EDIT: since its getting cluttered here, do you mind moving this to reddit? Sorry I do not post on Reddit anymore. When everyone calms down we will find a solution most people are happy with. The money is SAFE and not going anywhere. |
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Hum...did ANYONE read the part about happy to move forward with the Wall Street event if the community makes a decision for change? If my goal is to "scam" the community I would just bail. No need to stick around right? Always the same BS...
They probably did,and most of them wants their money back. I guess that's a kind of answer..... You cant just take someone's money ant then say "ok,i will do with it what i said i'm gonna do,but on my own terms",and then be surprised when most of the people are pissed off.... Most people aren't pissed off. Just the same crowd that will find issue in whatever I do or say. |
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