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5201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 07, 2015, 10:16:08 PM
Excuse me, you forgot wives  Wink

lets never forget the miningwife's

5202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 07, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
We must not forget the great investor who sold his gold, drove the market price to 0.00078 in a buying frenzy and now sits licking his wounds as the price has normalized. 

utahjohn i guess u dont care what i would love to see

but in case u do

please try to not attack pools cloud investors reactor contributors devs cats cows and flies

enjoy ur free time as early retired i guess there lot other hobbies u enjoy too beside crypto and special dmd
5203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 07, 2015, 04:45:04 PM



NO Electricity Bills                                
  NO Maintenance                                    
    NO Heat                                                
      NO Noise                                              
        NO Timesink                                        
          NO Complicated technology                
            NO Quickly decreasing mining rewards


Join DMD Cloudmining
     -> EARN DMD EACH DAY!
                    
                   YES!

(additional DMD Cloudmining shares qualify for DMD Reactor payouts!

Visit us:  cloudmining.bit.diamonds
for terms & conditions Email us: cloud@bit.diamonds

      


What's the best way join into DMD Diamond and DMD Cloudmining?

I suggest split it as follows:

 a) 50% on buying Diamonds directly
 b) 50% in Diamond Cloud Mining.

 This way I could achieve both maximizing the profit and stabilizing the coin.
 Diamond Cloud Mining can earn Diamonds every day, those Diamonds stake with 50% PoS interest.
 Some would call that Double PoS or simply PoS˛ (Proof of Shares and Proof of Stake).


I am not a Registered Investment Advisor, Broker/Dealer, Financial Analyst, Financial Bank, Securities Broker or Financial Planner. The Information is provided for information purposes only. The Information is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice or any other advice, is general in nature and not specific to you. Before using this information to make an investment decision, you should seek the advice of a qualified and registered securities professional and undertake your own due diligence. None of the information is intended as investment advice, as an offer or solicitation of an offer to buy or sell, or as a recommendation, endorsement, or sponsorship of any security, Company, or fund. DMD Diamond is not a regulated investment vehicle. DMD Diamond, like all crypto currencies, is experimental in nature and should be considered and treated with appropriate caution. There is no central point of control or representative entity, DMD Diamond is a distributed decentralized peer-to-peer currency and commodity. Consult a licensed professional financial advisor before making any investment decisions. I am not responsible for any investment decision made by you. You are responsible for your own investment research and investment decisions.
5204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 07, 2015, 04:41:43 PM



we still seek more contribution to this project:

DMD Reactor "light"

This need no wallet code change it give the reactor no advantage over normal wallets
it support network with a very big 24/7 staking wallet and it support dmd cloudmining with 70% of its POS earnings
(30% of its pos earnings stay in reactor to slowly increase its size same as all DMD cloudmining investments follow this 70/30 rule)

there are two ways how people can take part at Reactor
both ways and the whole project have to be seens as longterm support of the main stabilisation mechanism
for already big cloudmining shareholders who hold a lot DMD option 1 is ideal

for new (or people without dmd cloudmining shares) investors a 33/33/33 split between
buy DMD for ur wallet
buy dmd for reactor option1
buy DMD for reactor option2 or invest BTC for cloud shares
might be interesting

option 1. contribute

lend dmd for 12 months to reactor and get nothing in return
beside the additional DMD from reactor staking that ur existing dmd cloudmining shares qualify u
(but people who dont lend and have cloudmining shares would profite too from reactor)
at end of 12 months foundation will offer u a bounty to leave them in reactor for other 12 months
or u decide against it and get ur coins back

option 2. invest

ur dmd actual $ value value will be converted into dmd cloud shares 1:1
this dmd u will never get back they stay in reactor forever
but the cloudmining shares u keep and so the dmd cloudmining earnings


both options are not great investment opportunity but supportive act for dmd cloudmining

same in other words:

Option 1 is a joint effort from larger DMD holders to increase minting rewards which ll be distributed to DMD cloud shareholders.
In other words, they voluntarily put their coins into this large minting pot in order for all shareholders to benefit.
This option gives no special benefit to investors, it s just a nice move to support something we all believe in. You get your coins back at the end of the minting period so you basically just lend them.

Option 2 is people using their DMD to buy additional cloud mining shares and these DMD coins used to pay for these shares will again go into large minting pot which will produce additional rewards for all DMD cloud shareholders.

None of these options are obligatory, if you feel you should contribute to DMD community, do it. If not, no problem, we still love you all. Smiley))




------------------------------------

for now we have "lend" coins option 1

30k helmut/cryptonit
10k alex/popshot
2.5k anonymousG
2.5k chilo
1.5k Eliano
5k anonymousA


and invested coins option 2

2.5k anonymousG
1.5k anonymousJ
1.5k big_coins
1k chilo
1k anonymousI
2k anonymousA


--------------------
total 62k


(we only accept coins send to us once its clear we launch it
the trigger value that we make it will be somewhere around 50k but goal still come as close as possible to 100k)

-------------------

thx to all who contribute!

5205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 07, 2015, 04:39:59 PM
Since when does 98.95% = 99% Huh (Not in any math I know of)  Bottom line is miners are being shorted.
The 0.05 that goes to the foundation directly which u never see as part of reward.  You are not entitled to ANY % of that, it is skimmed off the top.   

how about reading hallareds posting again he detailed explained how total correct calculation can lead to different results

but in my opinion it just doesnt matter at all

0,95% 1% or 1.05% pools fee that make nearly no difference at all

in my opinion if pool fee difference between pools is 0,25 +/-  against each other
dont consider the fee as the point why u choose one or another pool

all other points seems to be importnat to me
first of all do i trust the pool operator

example danbi pool might had troubles at the past but its always solved in a way everyone get what is his

still i dont mine at danbi i mine at miningfield eu

because at the time when he started he needed support to establish his pool
and i had no issue at all there so why leave

i would have considered donkeypool for startup support too
if it would be a eu pool and if the webside would use a default http port

over all trust in stability opf a pool have much more impact than 0,05 fee difference
because on a nvidia ccminer based mining rig u have no backup pool settings
a night on a dead pool cost u much more than the higher fees in a few months


5206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 07, 2015, 11:10:37 AM
what we are now is a nice coinrollout plan with fair distribution

but our real success will be based on the new stuff that comes
and not some bitcoin v1 hybrid pow pos code with cloud buy pressure

what u see now is just the basic layer of a full bitcoin v2 empowered code
with assets and smart contracts and apps hosted on top if it

that will be diamond v3

i did give so many hints in the past in my opinion
it should be clear already for every follower

dmd team is working  hard to get this done
but i guess its clear we not talking about a few weeks project
instead we talking about a few months

but still supportive stuff thats going on already like dmd cloud and reactor shouldnt be seen as unimportant
its all pieces of a puzzle that in the end will be dmd v3





5207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 06, 2015, 10:29:48 PM
I invested to do something good for this coin and all other DMD holders. Now I am tired of all the negativism.

same is true for me

guess how i feel

and i cant leave the boat

im the captain

at least i have the advantage to trust myself 100%
5208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 06, 2015, 09:39:37 PM
BTW I have never seen anyone acheive leet status before Smiley
I hate to be repetitious but pool mining is actually better than solo because of "Peer Magic" where the pool is notified immediately of new blocks versus solo mining polling every minute.
http://dmd.donkeypool.com:808

I think you're wrong. Simultaneously with solo mining you can use block change detection via pool.
For example:
sgminer -k diamond -o 192.168.1.6:17772 -u User -p Password -o stratum+tcp://dmdeu.miningfield.com:3388 -u -p
this! always used solomining that way
5209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 05, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
Why no mentioning anymore of coin creation rate?  Is the coin creation rate still a big issue of concern and something you will be dealing with separately in another way?

coins are rolled out to slow
to some degree our unique  rewardswitch trigger counter this
(with total coins and not blocknumber)

but still once we above 1500000 total coins there is a long time without a rollout adaption
in in that long timeframe the rollout would leave the plan a lot and be much slower
(that alone should show u how we think because we think now about issues that will have big visible effect on the rollout in a few years....)

so in fact there will be a adaption just a small one in coin rollout to compensate this

the ways to do this are endless

but we hear the community they want a way accessable for anyone without investment needed
which in fact remove mining from the table.......

i know that isnt what miners wanted to hear

but in fact if invest 100$ into dmd cloudmining is a issue to be part of original reactor

then be forced invest a few hundret $ into GPU for beeing able to mine is a issue too

 Shocked ok i tryed to beat reactorV1 critizicer with their own logic

in fact its not decided how it will be done even slightly increased POW rate after 1000000 might be possible

like 0.12 instead of 0.10 each block

dont expect drastical changes
its just a small adaption needed

just enought to make sure we dont need 50 instead of 30 years for coin rollout

a favorite solution in my eyes would be to add a new feature called PoN
prove of node which doesnt replace POS but is a new blockgenerating source rewarding
(not empty/to counter endless virtual PC wallets) wallets for their uptime

we have a pseudocode solution for this
if someone in community have the skills
and is interested to contribute in a research project
get in touch with us to transform it into real code

in fact lot is possible for the future

example POW POW PON POS as a four blockgenerating sources soloution
that is like "Hybrid˛ Security˛"

stick with the original design but always improve
i guess we are masters in this
people can be sure about stability because core mechanics stay unchanged
but they can be also sure we improve it

POS to POS˛
Hybrid Security to Hybrid˛ Security˛

just to show a few possible paths




5210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 05, 2015, 10:34:36 AM



we still seek more contribution to this project:

DMD Reactor "light"

This need no wallet code change it give the reactor no advantage over normal wallets
it support network with a very big 24/7 staking wallet and it support dmd cloudmining with 70% of its POS earnings
(30% of its pos earnings stay in reactor to slowly increase its size same as all DMD cloudmining investments follow this 70/30 rule)

there are two ways how people can take part at Reactor
both ways and the whole project have to be seens as longterm support of the main stabilisation mechanism
for already big cloudmining shareholders who hold a lot DMD option 1 is ideal

for new (or people without dmd cloudmining shares) investors a 33/33/33 split between
buy DMD for ur wallet
buy dmd for reactor option1
buy DMD for reactor option2 or invest BTC for cloud shares
might be interesting

option 1. contribute

lend dmd for 12 months to reactor and get nothing in return
beside the additional DMD from reactor staking that ur existing dmd cloudmining shares qualify u
(but people who dont lend and have cloudmining shares would profite too from reactor)
at end of 12 months foundation will offer u a bounty to leave them in reactor for other 12 months
or u decide against it and get ur coins back

option 2. invest

ur dmd actual $ value value will be converted into dmd cloud shares 1:1
this dmd u will never get back they stay in reactor forever
but the cloudmining shares u keep and so the dmd cloudmining earnings


both options are not great investment opportunity but supportive act for dmd cloudmining

same in other words:

Option 1 is a joint effort from larger DMD holders to increase minting rewards which ll be distributed to DMD cloud shareholders.
In other words, they voluntarily put their coins into this large minting pot in order for all shareholders to benefit.
This option gives no special benefit to investors, it s just a nice move to support something we all believe in. You get your coins back at the end of the minting period so you basically just lend them.

Option 2 is people using their DMD to buy additional cloud mining shares and these DMD coins used to pay for these shares will again go into large minting pot which will produce additional rewards for all DMD cloud shareholders.

None of these options are obligatory, if you feel you should contribute to DMD community, do it. If not, no problem, we still love you all. Smiley))




------------------------------------

for now we have "lend" coins option 1

30k helmut/cryptonit
10k alex/popshot
2.5k anonymousG
2.5k chilo
1.5k Eliano
1k anonymousA


and invested coins option 2

2.5k anonymousG
1.5k anonymousJ
1.5k big_coins
1k chilo
1k anonymousI
0.5k anonymousA


--------------------
total 55.5k


(we only accept coins send to us once its clear we launch it
the trigger value that we make it will be somewhere around 50k but goal still come as close as possible to 100k)

-------------------

thx to all who contribute!

5211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 05, 2015, 10:32:41 AM
Ok, 53.5k coins so far.

I m really positive we can reach 100k DMD to fill up the reactor. Cmmon people this is only $100 per person for 1k DMD I m talking about. If you cannot invest more, add $100 to the pot, I m positive most of you can do this without any problems.

Also, option 1 gives you back your coins after 1 year and option 2 gives you more cloud mining shares. I am sure 90% of you here do plan to buy additional DMD cloud mining shares at some point in the future, why don't you do it now and help fuel this reactor.

Not to mention that every additional minted coin from the reactor increases your own cloud mining payouts, so it s a win-win situation.

I am sure you all understand how rare it is to be a part of an honest project with a lots of potential during these hard crypto times. I am also sure none of you ve got many potentially profitable and interesting investment opportunities like this one, if any. So why we not showing some support and pushing this project over the finish line, let us get those 100k.

Disclaimer, I have no vested interested in DMD other then being DMD holder and investor like many of you. Also, please do not consider this as any kind or pressure, I am just sharing my thoughts with you on this snowy day (at least in my kindgom). Smiley



Ok cryptonit. If I am in for a penny, I'm in for a pound.

Please increase my pledge for option 1 to 2.5k, and I will also exchange 1k for cloudmining, option 2.

On another note, we once discussed allocating (as a donation) a percentage of cloudmining to the foundation, perhaps via the webpage. Maybe we could do that still, or allocate to reactor on behalf of the foundation? You guys provide services and should receive some payment. In 5 to 10 years when it is worth a fortune, you may decide to distribute some to people involved in this type of support, and it could never be viewed as being unfair on people who have chosen not to contribute. I would happily contribute some percentage as a donation to support the foundations activities.

Regards

chilo

by lend coins to the reactor u support the foundation
it increase profitability of dmd cloudmining
and create a new btc price independent payout generation pillar

thx a lot for ur support

even once reactor launched people able to join in with coins and support us

so this way contribution is possible for everyone who want
whenever he want

and for option 1 the coins not even gone u get them back after 12 months

basical u donated the POS rewards they generated

and earned back some of that donation with ur own dmd cloudmining shares

when ur share of total amount in reactor is same as ur share on total amount in the cloud

it ends up performing
around the same as they would in ur own wallet
5212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 05, 2015, 09:28:43 AM
I am 53yo and been in computer industry when u were still a baby ROFL.

13yo genius in computer industry
where exactly and in what position Wink

we are old boys on our own



i guess with our diamonds in a few years
we can buy a Retirement Residences for us all together

5213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 05, 2015, 09:15:30 AM
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Thank you kindly Cryptonit and thank you Utahjohn - I will leave you positive feedback for a trustworthy transaction.


shares transfered
5214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 04, 2015, 10:48:25 PM


we still seek more contribution to this project:

DMD Reactor "light"

This need no wallet code change it give the reactor no advantage over normal wallets
it support network with a very big 24/7 staking wallet and it support dmd cloudmining with 70% of its POS earnings
(30% of its pos earnings stay in reactor to slowly increase its size same as all DMD cloudmining investments follow this 70/30 rule)

there are two ways how people can take part at Reactor
both ways and the whole project have to be seens as longterm support of the main stabilisation mechanism
for already big cloudmining shareholders who hold a lot DMD option 1 is ideal

for new (or people without dmd cloudmining shares) investors a 33/33/33 split between
buy DMD for ur wallet
buy dmd for reactor option1
buy DMD for reactor option2 or invest BTC for cloud shares
might be interesting

option 1. contribute

lend dmd for 12 months to reactor and get nothing in return
beside the additional DMD from reactor staking that ur existing dmd cloudmining shares qualify u
(but people who dont lend and have cloudmining shares would profite too from reactor)
at end of 12 months foundation will offer u a bounty to leave them in reactor for other 12 months
or u decide against it and get ur coins back

option 2. invest

ur dmd actual $ value value will be converted into dmd cloud shares 1:1
this dmd u will never get back they stay in reactor forever
but the cloudmining shares u keep and so the dmd cloudmining earnings


both options are not great investment opportunity but supportive act for dmd cloudmining

same in other words:

Option 1 is a joint effort from larger DMD holders to increase minting rewards which ll be distributed to DMD cloud shareholders.
In other words, they voluntarily put their coins into this large minting pot in order for all shareholders to benefit.
This option gives no special benefit to investors, it s just a nice move to support something we all believe in. You get your coins back at the end of the minting period so you basically just lend them.

Option 2 is people using their DMD to buy additional cloud mining shares and these DMD coins used to pay for these shares will again go into large minting pot which will produce additional rewards for all DMD cloud shareholders.

None of these options are obligatory, if you feel you should contribute to DMD community, do it. If not, no problem, we still love you all. Smiley))




------------------------------------

for now we have "lend" coins option 1

30k helmut/cryptonit
10k alex/popshot
2.5k anonymousG
2.5k chilo
1.5k Eliano
1k anonymousA


and invested coins option 2

2.5k anonymousG
1.5k anonymousJ
1.5k big_coins
1k chilo
1k anonymousI
0.5k anonymousA


--------------------
total 55.5k


(we only accept coins send to us once its clear we launch it
the trigger value that we make it will be somewhere around 50k but goal still come as close as possible to 100k)

-------------------

thx to all who contribute!

5215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 04, 2015, 06:56:24 PM
Option 1 is a joint effort from larger DMD holders to increase minting rewards which ll be distributed to DMD cloud shareholders.
In other words, they voluntarily put their coins into this large minting pot in order for all shareholders to benefit.
This option gives no special benefit to investors, it s just a nice move to support something we all believe in. You get your coins back at the end of the minting period so you basically just lend them.

Option 2 is people using their DMD to buy additional cloud mining shares and these DMD will again go into large minting pot which will produce additional rewards for all DMD cloud shareholders.

None of these options are obligatory, if you feel you should contribute to DMD community, do it. If not, no problem, we still love you all. Smiley))




thx ivan
sometimes i just need help to describe stuff in other words
and u perfect did understand the idea
5216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 04, 2015, 06:15:53 PM
I don't understand how holding 50-100k worth of diamonds in a wallet that is staking for 12 months is going to create value.  Further more I don't like feeling forced to invest into anything.  I have invested in Cloudmining and enjoy the payouts.  I have mined DMD and I have bought DMD.  I just don't see the value yet in locking up my coin in a wallet for 12 months with no access to it for the same stake rate as my current wallet.  I will continue to buy DMD and shares when I can but this last post from you makes me feel like I am under pressure to invest.  I for one don't like that.  Please post a chart or graph or something that shows me exactly how me investing in the reactor v2 helps grow the value of DMD.  I like and respect you and previous to this idea there was always a chart or graph or something that helped me make a decision.  Even with reactor v1 there was a potential of 200% growth - that I understood.  Please help me understand this new idea.  Thanks - pokeytex

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the value yet in locking up my coin in a wallet for 12 months with no access to it for the same stake rate as my current wallet

not even that
u would get around same rewards if ur ur part of cloudmining shares is the same as ur share added to the reactor

if u add no coins in reactor u basical get free rewards from the coins other people add

u can enjoy that which is perfect fine

or be part of the contribution programm

i dont want to force someone

i just said i go in with 30k of my coins to support DMD with another pillar of income not connected to BTC value

and im very happy about everyone who help me

i understand its not very attractive to contribute on a not profit driven reactor

but the rewards here is the good feeling to support network and ur own investment into dmd cloud

5217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 04, 2015, 06:10:44 PM
I still have old Diamonds sitting at crispy..they have been there for 6+ months...
I guess I should update the wallet and get'm back and put them to work...


better that is Wink

and dont be mad u just wasted 25% more free DMD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoaktW-Lu38
5218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 04, 2015, 04:54:52 PM
another contribution incoming
thx to anonymousA

------------------------------------

for now we have "lend" coins option 1

30k helmut/cryptonit
10k alex/popshot
2.5k anonymousG
1.5k chilo
1k anonymousA


and invested coins option 2

2.5k anonymousG
1.5k anonymousJ
1.5k big_coins
1k anonymousI
0.5k anonymousA


--------------------
total 52k


(we only accept coins send to us once its clear when we launch it
the trigger value to make it happen is reached but goal still come as close as possible to 100k)

5219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 04, 2015, 03:55:38 PM
so where are the dmd cloudmining shareholders and their contribution to the reactor?

u really want alex and me carry 90% of the load?
it support every cloudmining shareholder

i understand people who own no shares are not intersted in it

but big shareholders should be able contribute at least with 1k dmd

(as big i consider over 300 shares = over 1% of total shares
and if we aim to fill reactor with 100 000 then 1k is the part of contribution that would be fair)

that we going to create it is nearly certain we only 500 dmd  short of the trigger value of 50k
but i would be very happy if im able find more supporter


5220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: February 04, 2015, 09:39:19 AM
Total sharepower 106.7906 for sale make offer.   Cryptonit can arrange transfer to your account.
DMD or BTC, DMD preferred.


i confirm move of shares in database can be done in special cases
BUT we dont act as escrow or manage the deal between the two sides
we only support to move whole amount of dmd cloudmining account shares and not split in parts
the last step to make the move happen will be always a messages signed by the wallet address that hold the shares
so only who control the wallet can sell the shares
the new owner must have a full registered wallet address at dmd cloudmining too (including access to settings page)


this should not be a lot handwork required marketplace
but a rare exception if someone want to sell a whole account of shares because of whatever reason


i would prefer that people read the contract before they make a investment
or at least come to conclusion in the 7 days timeframe where u can cancel contract if they want to step out
after the 7 days the money is spend for hashrate and we cant retun it only offer to support u if u sell ur shares as described above
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