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5241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: wallets that work with bet365 on: December 22, 2022, 02:16:42 PM

Bet365 do not yet accept bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency.


They are losing a big amount of customers by not implementing them,they surely have the financial and technical capability of adding that as a form of payment.Personally I do not miss them at all since I found that Stake,Sportsbet and a few other crypto casinos fulfill all of my needs in sport betting and not only sport betting but much more.

I think the people who still play there are people of old age or who are not yet familiar with crypto because as long as you play with crypto you are sure no reputable casino is going to limit your account like bet365 does once you win 3000-4000 EUR and there are a lot of such cases.
5242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon RX Vega 64 video card problem: I can't get it recognized by the system on: December 22, 2022, 01:40:28 PM
Hi to everybody.
I bought a Radeon RX Vega 64 8 GB and yesterday I tried to install on mining rig. I must point out that until yesterday 3 RX 580 Sapphire Nitro and 1 Nvidia 1660 TI cards were installed. I removed all the cards and tried to install the VEGA 64, but the system does not see it.

Motherboard is B250 Mining Board BTC 12GPU

Where I was wrong? What do I have to do to make the system to see the card?

Thanks a lot



Check in another working PC that you might have,if it works there normally it should also work in the B250 which for me personally is one of the best mining motherboards out there.Where did you bought the card?I don't think you bought it new as they are rare to find as new nowadays so most likely you bought it used,so as I said you should check in another PC you have available and if it works there then it is time to troubleshoot the issue in B250 board but you should try it in another PC as that is the first thing to do in such case.

If it works in the other PC,try to put first the card in the x16 slot and then try a 010S version riser.
5243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: K1 Pool not finding an ETF on: December 22, 2022, 12:17:26 PM
I recently saw that I can make a lot of ETF monthly with just 90 Mhsh and little power consumption so I am trying this for one month or two at maximum.I started yesterday night and started to receive payouts normally and I saw that the amount of time of blocks and rewards were up to 2 hours maximum,now it has been stuck there from today morning at 6.39 AM and no rewards,of course the rewards come in my expected balance which is the equal of unconfirmed in other mining pools.Should I be worried or not as it is my first time using this pool?


I wouldn't worry too much about losing $1 Smiley
https://miningpoolstats.stream/ethereumpow
There are 39 mining pools on miningpoolstats and you choose the 36th pool from the list?
Did you mix up the top with the bottom?
I use 2miners.com.
I don't want to say that K1 is a bad pool but its 0.741220 ETHW 1 GH/s Revenue similar to 2miners.com.

2miners does not have ethereum fair yet,they have ethereum pow which I have already mined several of them,now I am mining several of these other coins,of course I don't see the value of 1 right now but I think in long term where that value maybe like 500-1000 dollars and then it adds up to being a good amount.

Maybe the pool is 36 in the list as I didn't check,it showed up first when searched for ethf mining pool in google.Beside that I have started to like it as it has a lot of time luck dependency so I got one time -54% from the expected balance but overall I have got several times +166% of the expected balance,it just needed time and it updated.
5244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: December 22, 2022, 07:49:45 AM
Karim Benzema deserve more years to stay in Real Madrid, because he has contributed so many things to make Real Madrid the most strongest team in the la Liga league competition. I believe, Real Madrid coach will consider some things they have achieved through the help of Karim Benzema to wait until he recover from his injury, since he has prepared his mind to resign from their international team. The major focus of Karim Benzema after recovering is the area to increase his goals so that those that think he cannot perform well after the injury can testify by themselves.
Karim Benzema is an outstanding striker for the los blancos and his presence in the team is not questionable because he's one of the best experience attacker in real Madrid and also laliga. Benzema injury have lasted over a month and this might actually affect his pending contract for real madrid. Florentino Pérez only extends contract with fully fit players and looks like the 35 years old frenchman will no longer be consistent in games at club level, that's the more reason he retired from international game so he could focus mainly on his club career.

You are right. Real Madrid management does not extend contracts to older or unfit players. Benzema has been injured for a long time. If he is not with the squad and does not perform well this season, Pérez will drop Benzema from the squad next season. Pérez will forget Benzema's contribution to Real Madrid. And so Benzema has now retired from his national team, and he wants to focus solely on Madrid's performance. And he is keen to stay in Madrid for a few more seasons.

I think Benzema still have got a lot to give to Real Madrid.The fact that he retired from the national team does not mean anything at all for me,it was just a personal decision from him which emphasizes that he wants at all cost to continue play for Real Madrid.I don't think Perez will forget that easily the contribution of such player and I am sure his contract will be extended.Real Madrid needs his services for this season of course but also for the upcoming ones,they are defending the title against a Barcelona that has reemerged to fight for the title.
5245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 21, 2022, 07:17:28 PM
Yeah, me too man. Nothing better to remove the disappointment of World Cup than to take it all out on opponents in the league. I know it's a crappy EFL cup game, but it'd be great to knock City out on a competition they used to win every season (was it 4 or 5 seasons in a row again?). Saw some training and friendly videos of Salah, Firmino, that's great but much nicer to see Thiago and Matip fit again (and Milner once more clocking record distances wtf).
Manchester City has won five of the last seven EFL Cup. This is getting boring, Liverpool won the last one, and at this point, I want both teams to lose. Every new Manchester City player must now have at least one EFL Cup. These guys are running that league for fun, and I wouldn't be surprised if they overtake Liverpool as the most successful holders in no time.

While other teams are having fun, I have to endure Chelsea Haram for the rest of the season, from Messi strolling through Joško Gvardiol like a piece of cake and Mbappe scoring epic goals to Kai Havertz and Mount missing sitters against some old school boys from Bournemouth high school.... wait, I have to watch Darwin as well..  Grin Undecided

Isn't it going to be in the league's and champions league best interest for Man City and Liverpool not to lose this early into their domestic cups ? Unfortunately, one of them have to go tomorrow night, right. However, If I were an Arsenal, Chelsea or Man United, I'll definitely wish for both Liverpool and Man City to have their fixture schedule clogged ahead of the second rounds of the league and champions league knockout stages, because the last thing you lots need to worry about is a Guardiola or Klopp team that has nothing on their plate to play for but the Premier League, the competition might even be over before the end of February or at the worse very early in to the month of March.

I'm still taking my deserved rest from the euphoric world cup final drama, so I've had little time to notice the EFL cup is already on, but I did watch some decent minutes of Newcastle's fixture last night, and I must say they still look very much like the real they were before the world cup break.

Even I would love for this fixture to go to extra time and penalties but I think this EPL cup if the game ends in a draw they rematch after one week,at least that was the case for the EPL cup before some years,it would be nice if they change the format to extra time and penalties and not with another game as by doing so we can see a lot of games if the games keep ending in draws.

Arsenal should have nothing to worry as they are fully concentrated in the Premier League and I think they will have high chances to win it as long as they take any game with serenity,both Liverpool and Manchester City have shown flaws in their last games.
5246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: December 21, 2022, 03:07:21 PM
This year we have Ricciardio for Red Bull reserve, and Mick for Mercedes reserves, those are F1 drivers who already raced and proven themselves, why would they get reserve drivers at that level and not some young one? I understand maybe Mick is young but is he really a future Mercedes driver level? Doubt that.

You can see that Ricciardio's performance in the last few races has dropped quite a bit and he admits that. He even said that he was quite glad not to be offered a seat on Red Bull's top team, because he also admitted that there were still many things he wanted to improve in the upcoming season.

I admit that Ricciardio is a potential driver and has the opportunity to be able to compete with other drivers, but it seems that he is no longer eager to compete in future races because his performance continues to get worse and it is better for him to be able to stop for a while and fix his many shortcomings in future races.

Ricciardo age is not young anymore,if I remember correctly he started in a USA track,most likely it was Indianapolis and that was more than ten years ago from now,so I don't understand how he can say that he would not want a top seat in the Redbull team now that they are at the peak of their performance.I think Ricciardo was forced to say that because he already knew that seats were already taken for the next season,so his only chance is 2024 or even 2025 if he can wait that long and Perez does not show a good performance during such seasons.
5247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is The Gambling Industry Part Of The Domino Effect That Happens In The Market on: December 21, 2022, 02:53:28 PM
Whether they show proof or not, often casinos run away/close down their business without particularly affecting the market. Countless casino campaigns have come on bitcointalk, only few exist.

And is exactly this very few that exist that we should support,since they still exist it means that they have a huge amount of cash ready to afford to pay any amount no matter how big it is without concerns,of course we can see that in the ANN threads here where their ANN threads are filled with positive feedback and different bonuses they share with the community.

For the lot of casinos that cease to exist it shows that they did not have a long term business plan and they were in for the quick buck,things do not work like that in a real business and even online casinos can be real business who generate revenue so the casinos who go away or close business are those without a plan and without finances to back those plans.

As you say casino campaigns are a lot but very few that run for a long term and those who run for the long term show that they are solid business with healthy finances.
5248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: December 21, 2022, 02:29:26 PM
@ginsan while it’s true that Bayern have injured player’s but PSG too have problems of their own as Mbappe will be psychologically effected and that could harm PSG chances of winning. Furthermore even with these injuries I feel that Bayern will put up a strong fight, and PSG will have to hope that Mbappe and Messi can work together otherwise they’ll find it difficult to win this fixture.
Mbappe's psychological issue will be resolved before the match because Mbappe, who is now a football hero, also needs the Champions League title.
What happened in the World Cup is normal in football because that is the nature of the game; you either win or lose, but Mbappe's effort was incredible, but luck was not on France's side, and they lost on penalties.
Bayern Munich, on the other hand, can play very well without Mane and perform very well because they have good players who can defeat PSG as well.

I think that there is enough time for Mbappe psychological feeling to pass and he to feel full power again,he has all the World Cups before him as he is very young of age despite looking extremely mature when playing and that is how true leaders are.

It is going to be a very difficult game though and I would not be surprised if PSG would get eliminated although chances for me for them to be eliminated are real slim,as long as Messi and Mbappe are playing in the same team,PSG then there is nothing to worry I would say.
5249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 21, 2022, 01:24:40 PM
Before the Premier League starts tonight we can watch the Carabao Cup match where Manchester United vs Burnley we can see Man United's game again without Ronaldo now there is a possibility that Rashford will be starting IX.

Tomorrow's match Manchester City vs Liverpool will be more exciting as usual, I know of all the main players will not be played as a whole but this match will certainly be more interesting than usual.
Burnley is tough opponent for Manchester United because they are the leader of championship division and for squad composition Manchester United still cannot played Varane and Martinez but some of players such as Maguire or Eriksen confirmed in the good shape so lets see whether Manchester United can win from Burnley or not
Besides that the match between Manchester City vs Liverpool always be interesting to watched this because their rivalry for race title on previous season and on other competitions Liverpool actually had good records from Manchester City but Carabao Cup is not too important for both of teams considering Manchester City and Liverpool has more focus for other competitions such as premier league or champion league

I don't think Manchester United will have any big problems in winning against Burnley,they may be leading the Championship but not a long ago they suffered a humiliating defeat from Sheffield United 5-2 and beside that they have been conceding goals in most of their games,this should make the job a lot easier for Manchester United who despite not being able to fight for the Premier League title is still there in the top places of the Premier League standings.

Manchester City vs Liverpool is going to be a good game for the EPL cup as a quarter final,the odds of City are very generous at near 2 and considering Liverpool bad form this is something we should take profit for.
5250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Which Crypto would you like to see more in Online Casinos? on: December 21, 2022, 01:01:52 PM
First time I heard about the coins mentioned.
Lesser meme coins, and more on using Bitcoin and Ethereum. If these two have more usage, chances of our altcoins value going up are there rather than having so many options that the demand gets divided too much we don't even feel the value of every coin growing anymore.
But if one casino really likes to add more then we don't really have a choice, but I doubt the usage will be that high compared to the reputable ones.

I think the majority of the good well established casinos already offer most of the preferred coins like Bitcoin,Ethereum,Litecoin,USDT,Tron and many others like Doge,Shiba Inu and alikes,so the coins in the top 100 are usually as an option,the most well known from this list in most reputable casinos.I also know that these very reputable casinos are looking forward to implement new coins in order to expand their user base,for me it does not make that much of a sense as crypto gamblers,the real ones most likely do not use SHIBA or Doge to play in a casino unless they have millions of such coins,so I think we are good as we are,whatever we add is added value.
5251  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: December 21, 2022, 12:18:01 PM
I think Bitcoin and other crypto do not have a future when especially like the Government of India plans to introduce its own currency.  so I think it is better to play the online/offline lotteries, especially “Nagaland state lottery ”, which gives 3 crores INR every day. so, if you are lucky you can be a millionaire overnight.

Why do you think Bitcoin and other cryptos do not have a future if the government of India plans to introduce their own currency?Didn't China do the same and yes Bitcoin was impacted only temporarily but then in October hit the new all time high of last year.I think Bitcoin does not care much what a single country does as long as it is supported by all the developed world and their societies.

I don't think India can play a role in the future of Bitcoin as the strongest point of Bitcoin is decentralization.
5252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / K1 Pool not finding an ETF on: December 21, 2022, 11:47:30 AM
I recently saw that I can make a lot of ETF monthly with just 90 Mhsh and little power consumption so I am trying this for one month or two at maximum.I started yesterday night and started to receive payouts normally and I saw that the amount of time of blocks and rewards were up to 2 hours maximum,now it has been stuck there from today morning at 6.39 AM and no rewards,of course the rewards come in my expected balance which is the equal of unconfirmed in other mining pools.Should I be worried or not as it is my first time using this pool?

5253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: World cup highest goal scorers update discussion on: December 21, 2022, 11:35:43 AM
Mbappe have achieved so much in his age and have made records of what some superstars didn't do in their reign. Appearing twice in world cup which he won the cup and now he is the highest goal scorer this time. He most might want to leave PSG to another club that will pay him more. Real Madrid might be one his list,he is still young and can still appear in three more world cup before retirement, he has an innocent look but very dangerous when it come to scoring goals.
maybe he will be the top scorer again in the next world cup considering that many of the greatest players are currently of course retired like messi, ronaldo and others at the 2026 world cup, mbappe has quality skills in scoring goals so he needs a lot of experience too in other clubs or other leagues so that he becomes a goal scoring machine and becomes the greatest player in the future, especially since he is still relatively young, he needs a lot of experience in football
Mbappe is already a scoring machine. You could say he has already achieved everything Messi or Ronaldo have achieved, perhaps even more. He was able to score three goals in the World Cup final, that's saying a lot. As for Ronaldo, I think Portugal already have a new replacement for him, it's the young player who came out in his place, Joao Felix. I liked the way he performed at this championship.
Mbappe scored as much goals in 23 years which Messi and Ronaldo scored in 35 or 37 years if thier age . I find him much better and strong than many experienced players.
He has a long future ahead of him in football if he's leaving PSG there will be many clubs who'll be willing to take him at his terms. The point is he chooses correctly for him and grow more in football .

It is different and I think Mbappe is favored compared to Messi and Ronaldo because all the team plays for him,we saw that in the final that every single player was trying to support him and they did a great move by doing so as he was able to bring France up to the penalty kicks which decided the fate of the game.

Nor Messi nor Ronaldo have been supported so much as Mbappe despite them being team leaders in their national team,still they have not gotten as much as Mbappe has had during the tournament,nevertheless I agree Mbappe scored 12 World Cup goals,the same as Pele so far.
5254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first attempt to play gambling on: December 21, 2022, 11:06:56 AM
Usually, it starts with losing bets but my case was a bit different. I have lost 2k in 3 days and tried to recover losses, it was naive decision since new to this industry and was not familiar how bad loss streaks can go. After those bad days, winning streaks bring back all losses then big wins, I didn't know it was the first brick on the gambling wall. I never let the people to try gambling if they have never done this before, it is kind of "save" tbh..

Usually it starts with lossing bets, but your case is a bit different when you lost $2k in 3 days? That's no difference in there I guess? Lol.
However, it doesn't really usually starts with lossing bets. Have you ever heard of beginners' luck? Most of my colleagues before had it, but not me. Beginners luck usually the start for a person to get involved more time in gambling.

Losing $2k in 3 days is a huge loss for most gamblers, who will regret using that kind of money. In addition, it will be very difficult to recover from that big loss because we don't know how much money we have to use to play gambling until we can recover from it. But if it's a newbie, I feel a newbie at gambling might have his luck winning some money, which keeps them coming back a few days later. But they shouldn't think that luck will always be with them when playing gambling because luck will only come to the right person and they deserve luck.

Gambling is a form of a very expensive entertainment but for people losing 2000 dollars in 3 days it is no big deal if they are gambling regulars.If that was a newbie that is a huge mistake and of course he will try to recover his money which in turn can lead to a more fatal error that of becoming addicted.

I don't believe that newbies has luck,this is just a superstition going on in gambling circles but when I was working in a casino many many years ago,I have seen newbies losing like 4000 EUR in less than half hour,it all depends on luck.
5255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Using Bonus Buy or Not Using Bonus Buy? on: December 21, 2022, 07:59:09 AM
I uses gambling platform for long in the past but never that I purchase Bonus buy instead since I believe that gambling is all about luck then i take my chances in every bets I do no matter how high or low it is.

You are very consistent with your playing style. Some people can't wait for the free spins. because they think, they will be able to get wins faster with bonus buy feature which is actually not giving higher chance to win. I also realized, because on several occasions, I only get $0.xx from bonus buy feature  Grin. Whereas from normal spins I can get up to 200x. After having this experience, I also played more with normal spins than bonus buys. This mean, nothing different between bonus buy or normal spins.
yes I am, imagine that in the past I become addicted without Buying bonuses so what more if I tried those? lucky that I never tried mate and now I completely deny that Idea as I would rather gamble and loss with pure luck than doubling my chance of losing buying those bonuses.
but good that you explain that further for others to understand because only few of us knows about how this bonuses works because this added cost to our gambling activities.

Sometimes the buy bonus is a great feature,I played yesterday 15 Crystal Roses slot from Play n Go and I played a long session yet I only won the bonus feature 2 times and one time I got 0.32 dollars and the other one 0.92 dollars.Of course I got mad and I believe everyone at my place would become mad too because of such happenings and it is exactly in this time that the buy bonus becomes a great feature,when I see that the game takes a really long time to give me the bonus just two times it is only natural for me to stop playing normally and wanting to buy the bonus.
5256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why there are no cool games on: December 21, 2022, 07:33:21 AM
The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.


Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.


The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.




Most probably this will be implemented in the near future or distant future because it depends on what the revenue of casinos are from the normal games that we have.I see tons of players playing slot machines at Stake website as I can check the bets there and based on this I can say that most likely this what you are asking will be implemented in the distant future when people will get bored of slots,if they will ever get because the slot providers keep creating all new sort of slots with different game play mechanics,so unfortunately I don't think it will be implemented soon enough.
5257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: December 20, 2022, 03:12:47 PM
Schumacher could be driver no. 2 if Mercedes commits with Russell to be their first driver.  I don't think Merc could acquire Verstappen or Norris as they both have long term contracts with their teams.  They could tempt Leclerc away from Ferrari tho.

I would love to see Leclerc at Mercedes.I don't like him personally as a driver but this year he showed great skill and performance in those races where Ferrari had the upper edge.Beautiful battle in Silverstone between three drivers and one of them was Leclerc,he won in Austria with the gas pedal not working at all and a few more good deeds by him.

At Mercedes I doubt they have first and second driver but they choose one based on the results of the start of the season,they can't have first driver Russell if for example Hamilton wins the first three races.
5258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: December 20, 2022, 02:53:29 PM
I don't know why Chelsea coach is not coming out to talk to their fans, if they are going to sign in new players next month or not so that people will know their plan ahead of this UEFA champions league. Chelsea need new professional players in the areas of defensive and midfield which is their major problem in this season, and their coach need to do something so that he will not be eliminate like the way they eliminated their formal coach from the team.
Please, you shall read the latest news about chelsea and how many rumours from chelsea to sign the new players from another club. There are so many news about chelsea's effort to bring the new players to the stamford bridge.
I think that there are bunch of news that must be read by you. I just suggest you to take a look at some news before try to blame chelsea's coach. it's clearly said that chelsea will give an announcement about the players that will be signed by the club.

There has been a lot of heat for Chelsea signing new players and that is why this is a delicate matter,however as said most probably we should wait by the club itself to announce their new signups which they have time until 31 January 2023 as the latest time for a transfer window.

No matter how good players Chelsea signs though they will need time to adapt to the new team and Chelsea does not have time for this so for this year I don't expect anything to change for them even if they sign new players.They should already start to think about the new season as for this one they stand no chance of becoming Champions.
5259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 20, 2022, 02:25:56 PM
It's almost like a usual scenerio in every transfer window that Manchester United will have a number of players on their list which they will end up buying none lol. Antoine Griezmann to Manchester United feel unrealistic to me though but we shall see whether Manchester United can go against odds and pull this one through. Griezmann was so impressive in the world cup and I'm pretty sure that is why United are interested in him.
I do not see any problem in getting Antoine Griezmann even though some fans may think that Ten Hag won't sign him because he is old and want his focus is on building young average players.  
He'd be playing as central forward to drop deep so Bruno can get run off him, going wide and everywhere else on the pitch creating chances of play for Rashford and Antony.
Manchester United are eyeing Antoine Griezmann who has performed well in the World Cup, and they hope that Antoine Griezmann will answer all they need right now. They have the chance to get him, but I also have a little doubt that a partnership between them will work and if we see Antoine Griezmann playing for Manchester United. I enjoy these rumours because almost every player that is rumored to be joining Manchester United doesn't happen much.

I'm curious, is Antoine Griezmann currently still on loan from Barcelona or has he been completely re-owned by Atletico?
But apart from the contract, I think that at 31 years of age, it still seems like the ideal age and not too old either. So, if Manchester United are really going to sign him then I think it might be the right choice because anyway, it would be better if there are more experienced players in the team.

Antoine Griezmann has been doing quite well in La Liga so far by having five goals so far, with such a performance, Antoine Griezmann can still be relied upon to become a team's goal machine.
At least if Antoine Griezmann is at Manchester United then Manchester United has a squad with good quality when rotating, so bringing in Antoine Griezmann is not something wrong because of course Erik ten Hag will have more options in organizing attacks.

I agree,Griezmann is not that old and could be a nice add on in the attacking of Manchester United,he can play for another couple of seasons at full power until he becomes 34 where most players start going down in performance because age does not permit anymore to be a shiny player like these guys have been usually in their 23-28 which their prime.

I think he is still owned by Atletico and Atletico would be getting good money from such transfer considering his age which is not a young player anymore so if they manage to sell him to Manchester United can be a great move for Atletico which with that money can buy some new much needed players for them.
5260  Other / Off-topic / Re: 🔥🔥After the 2022 World Cup🔥 on: December 20, 2022, 11:13:33 AM
We could also argue that Argentinian goalkeeper didn't deserve a golden glove. Look at this comparison between Martinez and Livakovic:


So do you agree that Martinez deserved a golden glove reward as the best goalkeeper on the tournament?
Haven't checked the stats of the two at the World Cup but seeing what you're showing it honestly has to be said that Livakovic deserved much more and the difference is vast and it's become quite puzzling why with such disparate statistics the organizers didn't award the Croatian goalkeeper a golden glove.
Being able to bring Argentina to win the World Cup should not be a reason for giving it because appearance should be the benchmark for judging this is quite disappointing and suspicious.

Yes, I think that Martinez received this golden glove prize only because the Argentine national team won the WC, but first of all because he defended a penalty shootout in the final match, I think this influenced such a decision in his favor, all this is very subjective, but Livakovic undoubtedly deserved this award.

I agree but also think that Martinez deserved it more than any other goalkeeper simply because of the number of penalty saved,it was about 4 of them,2 in Holland game and 2 in final game taking into consideration that he found the direction even in that penalty which got out.It is only natural for him to have gotten the golden glove because of this and because he had done more than Livakovic,we don't know how Livakovic would have behaved in a final,he surely was great against Brazil but that is only one match.
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