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5261  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Where In The World Is Vladimir Putin? Strange Doings At The Kremlin… on: March 14, 2015, 11:41:13 PM
#PutinXObamaChallenge

who gets more media attention while disappearing for a week?

lmao

but jokes aside - are the pictures in the OP legit?
seems definitely weird

/edit

http://allnewspipeline.com/Huge_Preparation_In_Moscow_Now.php

@UK
is it true that all russian embassy employees left britain?

/edit 2

pictures in OP seems to be legit, there are several videos online showing the red square
5262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ATOMIC: in SuperNET CORE - single blockchain for trading all coins&assets on: March 14, 2015, 11:35:24 PM
hi guys,

there are some really nice updates including the start of the alpha testing.
i will post all information regarding the updates tommorow, its time to go to bed now Smiley
5263  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama Threatens War on Israel If It Attacks Iran on: March 14, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
The united states of freedom and democracy attacking israel? Roll Eyes

The guy who wrote the article should get the nobel prize for comedians
5264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET trades on Poloniex as UNITY, asset id 12071612744977229797 on: March 14, 2015, 03:54:29 PM


• Will you look into Navajo coin who just released what they claim to be the tightest anon protocol yet?

Sorry but everyone with half a brain sees that nav is a closed source pump and dump...

Because it is only just released. You cunt.

Best case it is a centralized mixer worst case you guys got ripped off hard.

Btw. you cunt is a really good argument Smiley
5265  Economy / Economics / Re: Washington’s $210 Trillion Deficit on: March 13, 2015, 11:24:37 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism


and yeah, this is only the tip of the iceberg

all power to the $$
5266  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 11:20:41 PM
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yes please dump that shitcoin now ._.

i still want my promised sub 200 100 10 Undecided
Why so eager to get them? Have patience. It took 1 year to fall 70% remember?
You'll get your double digit coins son, give it time and have some faith.

with all that chinese miners and free electricity, shouldnt the dumping train accelerate much faster then in 2014?  Huh
Ehm... no, since they make a slightly worse ROI with their coins than what they were doing when it was at $1000-$500 or whatever.
They are still making a good ROI nontheless.

More than 200k coins have been mined since the $150 bottom. More than enough to send prices to low double-single digits in one click on all exchanges combined (theoretically) if you look at the money on orderbooks. Of course I'm not saying that's what will happen, I'm just saying think about it when thinking supply/demand for BTC.
How do you like that?

but reality says instead of going to zero btc nearly doubled in price...
something is definitely wrong!!!!!! probaly nsa hacking chinese miners to stop them from dumping  Huh
5267  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 11:05:38 PM


yes please dump that shitcoin now ._.

i still want my promised sub 200 100 10 Undecided
Why so eager to get them? Have patience. It took 1 year to fall 70% remember?
You'll get your double digit coins son, give it time and have some faith.

with all that chinese miners and free electricity, shouldnt the dumping train accelerate much faster then in 2014?  Huh
5268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 10:58:16 PM


yes please dump that shitcoin now ._.

i still want my promised sub 200 100 10 Undecided
5269  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
Im giving up in beliving bears - there wont be sub 200 coming.
never again Undecided Cry

5270  Economy / Speculation / Re: IBM looking at adopting bitcoin technology for major currencies on: March 13, 2015, 05:43:18 PM
Uhm i am the only one to realize that this will actually start the age of bitcoin?
When fiat get its own ledger decentralized and trustless exchange between fiat and crypto will be easily possible
5271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET trades on Poloniex as UNITY, asset id 12071612744977229797 on: March 13, 2015, 05:32:43 PM


• Will you look into Navajo coin who just released what they claim to be the tightest anon protocol yet?

Sorry but everyone with half a brain sees that nav is a closed source pump and dump...
5272  Local / Biete / Re: [Biete] Handy-Voucher zu super Konditionen - Mobile24.cc on: March 12, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
Hi,

ein kleiner Kommentar von mir.
Ich hätte größeres Interesse an dem Angebot des OP, aber nachdem was ich bis jetzt gelesen habe, scheint mobile24.cc doch sehr dubios zu sein.

Sollte dies kein scam sein, hoffe ich dass OP entsprechende Änderungen vornimmt um allen Kunden entsprechende Sicherheit zu gewährleisten.
Und sollte es sich als Legit herausstellen werde ich definitiv einkaufen, die Rabatte sind ja enorm (weswegen mir es u.a. dubios erscheint).
5273  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2015, 03:38:26 PM


Thread retarded again, shit's gonna happen..

smelling incoming pump  Grin

btw. tbh thinking deeper about it, satoshifanclub is kinda right and i took it a step further:

what would happen if tommorow an asteroid hits the earth and kills nearly everything on earth?

no bitcoins, no millionairs and we wouldnt even need community consensus for that to happen....?  Cry
5274  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2015, 02:01:35 PM

 - the difference between Doge and Bitcoin is that there isn't a cap to the total number of Dogecoins created,
 whereas Bitcoin will only ever have a max of 21m coins (unless the protocol changes).

Its nothing to do with the protocol - if it were then there may be some guarantees that this 21m cap will be concrete.

No, its simply an arbitrary value ( actually - its an 'operand') in the code that can be changed at any time without having any effect on previous, existing or future transactions.
So, in otherwords, where most 'protocol' changes would, at the very least, require a "hard fork", the change in the cap to 22M or 42M or infinite cap could be made in the next minor version release.

I dont know where people who are supposed to understand these things get the idea of a hard limit to bitcoin. Its only a 'guide' or estimate. It can change once enough people want it.

Its just one line of code!!

The 21 million cap, is as concrete as peoples trust in Bitcoin..... or rather peoples trust in Bitcoin is as concrete at the 21 million cap.

Nah, Peoples trust and use of bitcoin will be seperate to that cap. However, dreams of hlding a $32K or $4.4m Bitcoin are as concrete as an arbitrary line of code.

Also, the rules are pretty explicit in saying that this can be changed - with consensus. The move from 1mb to 20mb blocksize is technically far more complex.

really? Then ltc, doge and other alts would have already surpassed btc long time ago.

Check the whitepaper and why bitcoin was invented in the first place. You will then understand why the limit of 21 mil btc wont be changed
5275  Economy / Speculation / Re: International remittances will have little afffect on the price. on: March 11, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Some people rate the price of BTC in accordance to the market cap of certain money transfer companies, or to the amount of annual transfer. Not only is this without reason, it forgets the fact that a remittance requires the buying and selling of the coins. Buy = price up, sell = price down. Thus transfers being made will have little affect on btc price.

your forgot one really important fact: volume.

right now the marketcap of bitcoin is (@cmc): $ 4,137,562,912

this means that at any given time - as long as the marketcap stays the same - the global maximum transaction size of bitcoin cannot surpass $ 4,137,562,912.

if we assume that bitcoin will be really used for international remittance the marketcap will grow by several orders of magnitude.

here is a interesting article from 2013 and 2014 though:
http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2013/10/02/developing-countries-remittances-2013-world-bank

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/aug/18/global-remittance-industry-choking-billions-developing-world
5276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains | XBridge | true cross-chain P2P on: March 11, 2015, 05:58:39 PM

using your example all cryptos are centralised if you use crypto without mining them?

No, the context is networking between blockchains.

If they're networked via a hub, then the network is centralised.

This is true even if the hub is blockchain-based.

In such a scenario (e.g. Atomic, and also sidechains in a different way), a central blockchain records transactions between all other blockchains. Thus, even though the central blockchain is internally decentralised, its position in the inter-chain network is as a centralised entity.

See what I mean?



i understand what you mean, but i'm not convinced.

taking atomic for example - without the peers of the network (miner) nothing would work. i think there is no stronger definition of fog computing and decentralisation.

i think it really depends on the viewpoint and understanding of the definition of centralisation.
so i guess we can agree to disagree Smiley
5277  Other / Politics & Society / Re: iSpy - Don't buy Apple products on: March 11, 2015, 05:41:02 PM
thanks for the links! protonmail.ch sounds really awesome, i'm reading and testing right now Smiley

it seems to be functioning like threema? (smartphone chat app)
How are you testing it right now? You have to sign up and wait for an invite due to the high demand. Well from the looks of it it works, but I haven't exchanged email with another protonmail user.
You can encrypt protonmail -> gmail (and others), by telling the person a specific code of your choice.


i rather meant i was reading about them right now haha
while registering for it i noticed too Smiley
5278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains | XBridge | true cross-chain P2P on: March 11, 2015, 05:32:59 PM

Multigateway, which facilitates the exchange of currencies between nodes on different blockchains, involves groups of servers mediating the exchange.

As such, exchange between buyer and seller is not conducted on a peer-to-peer basis. There is a third party involved (albeit not a traditional monolithic third party, but groups of servers utilising m-of-3 multisig). This third party mediates the transaction, and must be trusted to do so.

The above is what it means to perform a cloud service. Processing occurs at (well, near) the centre of the network, rather than being pushed to the network's edges (i.e. the peers), which is what defines fog computing.

Therefore, Multigateway is a cloud service bus for blockchain-based nodes.

In contrast, the Blocknet's decentralised exchange is being developed on a radically p2p model, making it a fog computing service.



You are selecting one element of SuperNET - one of the gateway mechanisms for coins, fiat, assets etc - and characterising all of SuperNET in terms of this alone. InstantDEX is a near-realtime peer-to-peer exchange service. This is clearly not cloudy.

You're entirely correct. I have only referred to Multigateway and not to all the other SuperNET components.

On the other hand, I selected Multigateway carefully. InstantDEX is p2p but runs on the NXT Asset Exchange and thus is on the NXT blockchain. Therefore it is not inter-chain – which is the context of the discussion.

To give another example of something related to InstantDEX that is cloudy rather than foggy, ATOMIC is a blockchain that records transactions of other chains. Thus it centralises inter-chain networking.

(Correct me if I'm mistaken, of course. I'm no expert on this tech and I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm mistaken.)




using your example all cryptos are centralised if you use crypto without mining them?

i think your explanation is very misleading.

there is no central authority x that controls y.
5279  Other / Politics & Society / Re: iSpy - Don't buy Apple products on: March 11, 2015, 02:50:47 PM
Exactly. Nothing is safe from these NSA bastards. What we really need is mass boycot of any and all companies that agree to this and a mass protest of our rights and liberties being eroded because they're chipping away at them bit by bit until there's going to be little left we can do in private without it being recorded and filled away somewhere.
That going to be difficult. As I see a large part of the "masses" would sell even their own mothers to get the latest and greatest Apple, HTC, Samsung, whatever most fashionable gadgets. These lads and lasses are not used to bother about their liberties until the police/secret service turns up on their doorstep for asking questions about some aspects of their conversations/emails.
This is a bold statement. You can't claim that 'nothing' is safe.
Nothing is unsafe, until proven otherwise. I've always been telling people to stay away from Apple for multiple reasons, they wouldn't listen because of the iAddicted brand. I guess people with average/lower IQ need that.
Anyhow a perfect example of something that is safe is https://protonmail.ch/. This is how you slowly back away from services that are being spied on.
That's an encrypted email provider.

P.S. Even Paypal dislikes them: http://www.zdnet.com/article/paypal-freezes-out-protonmail-asks-if-startup-has-government-permission-to-encrypt-email/

thanks for the links! protonmail.ch sounds really awesome, i'm reading and testing right now Smiley

it seems to be functioning like threema? (smartphone chat app)
5280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains | XBridge | true cross-chain P2P on: March 11, 2015, 02:11:21 PM
Can someone in the know explain the difference between Blocknet and SuperNet?

It is very encouraging to see BitNation selecting BlockNet as a partner over SuperNet, but it would be great to understand why.

Thanks,

G.

I would also like to know the key differences.

There is one key difference that really stands out: the Blocknet is a fog computing service bus, whereas SuperNET is a cloud computing service bus. (Google those terms if you're not familiar.)

As our project develops, you will see increasing differentiation, which will be especially evident in three areas: the openness of our platform, our focus on microservices, and the markets we will be building for. http://blocknet.co outlines all this in broad strokes.



No.

Service bus for blockchains.

@cassius: if no, then why?

Note that this is from a demand chain and supply chain perspective.



interesting, could you please give me examples for your statement regarding supernet and blocknet being cloud computing/fog computing?

from all the existing features of supernet so far it looks much more like fog computing to me (i.e. network communication and instantdex). regarding blocknet i dont have enough information to comment on.
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