And just like that, they are gone.




I'm starting to think that not only do they not have the BTC to repay their customers, they haven't had it in a long time. It would explain all the stupid games they've been playing for almost an entire year leading up to their closure.

The last time they moved coins out of their OMNI hot wallet was November 1st of last year:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/000706574639c86a?from_address=18rKsxwrdHxrfPjzAqNuxYr37wNNrxgrqy

(the 18rK... address corresponding to the OMNI hot wallet is only one address out of many that TS used to transfer BTC, however... would need more blockchain evidence to associate other wallets)

I wasn't even thinking about higher education, I was thinking about grades K-12, which is not only a fundamental right but mandatory...


Why not make it one?


I don't really understand how this addresses what I was saying in the slightest. I never suggested the government close any business, but you ran away with this notion for some reason. The existence of a medicare for all-type program (or "Public Option" as it was called in the Obama era) would place increased competition on for-profit insurers. Some of the more unsustainable ones would indeed go out of business, as they probably should. There are private insurers in every country that has socialized medicine, as it remains an economically-driven necessity. Nobody, however socialist they may be, is forcing any of them to close, and nobody thinks that would be a good idea.

Though this Ryleys guy said he would do a refund and didn't do it (which is definitely a tag-able offense, no questions there), I encourage everyone to read this thread as OP isn't telling the whole story. For instance,


That is false. Fogarty (the "old man") did indeed lose the match:



So OP is blaming Ryleys for something that didn't actually happen. Regardless, I will tag the Ryleys account for failing to issue a refund after promising to do so.

Promise of refund quoted for reference:

I don't want to see the right things? I can't make this Ryleys guy refund your bitcoin but I provided a viable remedy for your situation which you completely ignored.

- You were pissed that you lost the bet that was picked to win.
- The bet result was later adjusted to reflect that it was a win.
- Ergo, you won the bet.
- Ergo, you have no reason to be pissed!

My signature shows at the bottom of every post I make. Its a standard feature.

I'm not going to negative trust you but I do think everyone should avoid doing any business with you whatsoever.

Based on the fact that its a required element for survival. I mean, I personally haven't been to a doctor in 10 years, but that doesn't mean its a good idea, or that everyone else should be so lucky. Similar to how education is a right, if a society wants its population to prosper, it should be willing to shoulder the responsibility of insuring their basic healthcare needs.

Of course you can't prevent people from living unhealthy lifestyles, but you can tax them for it, which then goes to paying for health insurance. Smokers for instance are already taxed quite a bit in addition to having to pay higher health insurance costs (much of the time).


If you are referencing the health insurance industry plan administrators, brokers, sales agents, reps, etc., then my response is good, fuck 'em. They should have never had those jobs in the first place. Middle-manning health insurance is a dirty business.

Legendster and actmyname are not scammers.


He said he would refund the $25. If he doesn't, then yes, it is safe to say he is at least untrustworthy and deserves to be tagged. I don't know about a "scammer", however. He certainly didn't "steal" it from you, you gave it to him willingly.

Did you not see the image I posted showing how his pick you are complaining about was actually a win? Just show the links I posted to your sportsbook -- they should re-grade your betslip and give you your winnings.


If your financial situation is really this dire then you shouldn't be gambling in the first place.

He does have a history of this type of behavior if you check his trust feedback.


This may be true, but on the other hand, you did say this:


Even if this guy is acting like an a-hole, the fact is you did say you would refund him, so just get his BTC address via PM and send him the BTC. If he complains about not receiving it, you can forward me his PM with the address and I will verify if it was sent or not.

Whats weird is most websites do show Alcala winning:



This one does as well:

https://en.badminton-navi.net/player/detail/12979

Perhaps Jackpot Racer can point this out to the bookie who would change the loss into a win. Regardless, you told him you would refund him, so you should -- in the interest of retaining a good reputation on this forum.

Yikes, the number of eligible members is up to 169 -- minus the inactives.

I'm not liking my chances of remaining in this month. I subscribe to the Theory of Being Due, aka the Gambler's Fallacy. Every month since I've been DT1 I've survived the theymos snap. Not feeling good about this month.

You mean editing the post down to show the answers to your questions? If you include the entire unedited quote it is still quite clear to everybody who has an understanding of the English language and is capable of being honest. The answers were the very first part of the response, which you purposefully overlooked. You didn't like them, so you chose to play a stupid game, for which you won a stupid prize. And sorry to break your heart, but I don't have "personal feelings for you."

Because it is a testament to your intellectual dishonesty and generally inability to be honest, let's review what you just said. First of all, these were the questions being posed:


Your claim is that these may be answers to _another question_ that existed only in your own head, and not the ones you specifically asked. You asked two "yes" or "no" questions, you received 2 "no" answers. To perceive these as being answers to any other question than the ones you specifically asked is simply illogical.

Whether you have a severe impairment in logic or are acting out of dishonesty is up for debate, though I tend to lean toward believing the latter in this instance.

$30-$40 trillion over 10 years, not just for 1 year.

From the 60 Minutes interview:


The reason why Obama's ACA didn't really work is because he let the Public Option go out of a "compromise." However, the Public Option was the one part that really would have kept a degree of competitiveness in the healthcare industry, forcing health insurers to stop charging ridiculous rates knowing they would lose customers to those enrolling in the Public Option.

Having said that, $30 to $40 trillion over 10 years still seems unreasonably high. Healthcare shouldn't cost $10k a year. The whole system is still a disgusting racket.

Hey look who's temp ban evading with an alt account. BTI still sucks! weeeeeeee  

Somebody just necrobumped this post, thought it was worth sharing.


Posts like these demonstrate just how far BTC has come in 8 years -- this is now a $43,000 essay. Not bad for something I could pump out in about 3 hours.

Bargain Boyz and Baghdad Boyz, meet the Compliance Boyz

First off, this is a great, well-thought out post, with original content -- that is a rarity. I think most crypto casinos would rather not do a KYC first policy as that would detract a lot of potential customers. They pretty much depend on their reputation for doing the right thing, which as discussed above, isn't all that of a great indicator that things will go well in every circumstance, but in a non-mandated KYC environment, its all we have.

Big casinos like FJ, mBit Casino and Cloudbet get to set their own definitions as to what constitutes multi-accounting, trying to stride the line between saving money and continuing to enjoy a good reputation among the community.

An annoying example that comes to mind is I know someone who won quite a bit by using free bonus money, only to have their winnings confiscated because their family member had also created an account unbeknownst to them. Even though the family member never registered for a bonus or made a single deposit, the casino still considered it to be multi-accounting, which was strictly forbidden, thus the bonus money was lost. The casino was gracious enough to let them withdrawal their initial deposit before closing their account.

In this situation, was a rule violated as defined by the casino? Absolutely. Was the person _actually_ multi-accounting in an attempt to cheat the casino? Absolutely not (or at least I believe their version of the events). In such an instance, to me, its still not worth giving the casino 2 sets of personally-identifiable information. Even if the casino is a straight-shooter, they still run the risk of mishandling the information, such as getting hacked, or it stolen by a vindictive employee, etc.

Long answer short: KYC-first probably isn't a beneficial policy.

Before Prodigy, or maybe concurrently, I remember interacting with people on Bulletin Board Services (BBS). I can't remember the name of the one I frequented, but it was a highly localized phenomenon, in that each city or town had its own BBS where you interacted with members of your own community.

Other than using it for socializing, it was pretty pointless. A few lame games, places to download images (TIFF files actually predated GIF and JPEG -- saw my first porn that way), and that was about it.

My family was always a bit behind on modem speeds, so as a prank, people would blast me with huge text files that took a minute or so to download and display on screen as compared to the couple of seconds it would take most others.

I also remember that when someone at your home would pick up the phone when the modem was going, it was quite a bitch, and frequently disrupted the connection enough to make you go offline.

We also had Prodigy and then AOL... All of it was quite lame really compared to the things you can do with modern day internet.

its common knowledge that Hollywood, California is the actual center of not only the world, but the universe as well.



Antarctica is very real; all the water in the ocean at the edge spills into a container not unlike the side of an Infinity Pool, and it is redistributed around the world in the form of rain. Probably by giant robots.

Adam Clark says he worked for Trade Satoshi. From his LinkedIn:


You should also read this story:

https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/cryptocurrency-news/finance-and-funding/tradesatoshi-accused-of-malpractices-regarding-their-exchange-handling/

I wouldn't be surprised if he had a hand in emptying funds out of Trade Satoshi and leaving them insolvent. However, its possible that both Alibrandi and Clark are independently crooked.

You asked two questions with "yes" or "no" answers. Suchmoon replied "no" to both. Those are definitively answers. I honestly don't understand how you expect to be taken seriously. Your plight for fairness and objective standards is harmed by your inability to accept an answer as an answer.


If you don't consider those to be "answers", you're simply trolling at this point.