Guys, how many times BTC faces a lot of problems, and there´s always people saying: BTC is scam, BTC will reach zero, BTC is over, BTC is dead?
And every single time BTC rise and stay relevant
So it´s just a question of time, if you have money, buy BTC and wait, just wait If you have BTC enough, just hold
We have been through MANY situations like this. Why would that be the last? So it´s just a question of TIME, soon or later we'll see green candles everywhere
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Sim, fazia tempo que não tinha esse preço Mas tem que ter um pouco de sangue frio rs, o preço está ótimo, mas o momento é horrível, pode ser que caia muito mais ainda, vamos ver Eu estou dando uma olhada no tesouro direto aqui, mas não entendo tanto assim, preciso ver se é uma boa opção pra mim Na crise, o PU do Tesouro cai e as taxas prefixadas vinculadas às letras sobem, pra chamar investidores, dá pra ganhar violentamente (acima de 20-30% do valor investido) em cima disso utilizando-se o conceito de marcação a mercado, do outro lado, pra quem entra no Tesouro pra sacar somente no vencimento, pouco importa, vai receber aquilo que contratou. Infelizmente não tenho a mínima ideia como faz isso que você citou então não me arrisco ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Vamos no investimento de menor risco pra MIM que é o BTC ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Quem diria
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Eu comecei a usar hoje mesmo, agora vai tudo certinho rs Mas uma dúvida, já estou usando há algumas horas e até agora não apareceu nenhuma propaganda Eu ajustei lá nas configurações para receber até 5 anúncios por hora, mas ainda nada
Tem algo mais que preciso fazer para começar a vir as propagandas?
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Sim, fazia tempo que não tinha esse preço Mas tem que ter um pouco de sangue frio rs, o preço está ótimo, mas o momento é horrível, pode ser que caia muito mais ainda, vamos ver Eu estou dando uma olhada no tesouro direto aqui, mas não entendo tanto assim, preciso ver se é uma boa opção pra mim FED já emitiu mais de 2 trilhões de dolares pra tentar salvar os mercados.
vai dar ruim isso aí
ta tudo muito doido com o pânico do Coronavirus, não esperava que o btc caísse junto com os mercados. mas minha expectativa pro longo prazo continua a mesma.
Será que vai dar ruim mesmo? Estou vendo os governos tendo que agir de uma forma ou de outra, hoje parece que o dólar tá quase batendo 5 reais no comercial e a bolsa despencou de novo
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I totally agree, people are saying BTC is supposing to perform well against this crisis, but it's a global crisis, related to health, why people should be worried about BTC and not with haleth / food / medical care / family / regular job?
It's weird how people act during crisis
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Because if we are about to sell BTC, I don't think the bear market is the right time to do it. Or maybe, the owner would just want to move his/her Bitcoin to a newer, safer address because upon observing, the new address is now segwit. But who knows?
This is probably a panic selling. Its already obvious that we are still in the midst of bearish market. Typically a holder wouldnt even move a budge just to sell it on a desperate attempt. But our situation with all the markets are down, some cant be blame for selling and fear to lose their asset some value. Anyway, the market already down by huge since last night and still going down more. I am afraid it would touch down 3k level if this continue. There are several times that we encounter this fall and those coins doesn't move and its a mystery on why this one move at this point well maybe the old owner got panic from a huge market upset since as of now we don't know on what is the deeper price come since the virus is so strong and hurting badly the economy, so provably the owner moves that since that is his last defense for his losses recently. As I said above, it's not panic sell, it's a guy who has a lot of BTC in a flash drive, from time that BTC was mined by GPUs Incredible, but true
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O que como, de onde veio o tiro?
Karak meu, me belisquem que eu quero acordar.... não dá nem pra ficar alguns dias de fora que isso acontece??
Interessante o caso dos 1000 BTC, mas acredito ainda que além do COVID-19 há aqueles que estão aproveitando esses fatores para jogar o preço lá em baixo e ter uma melhor oportunidade de compra. COMPREM COMPREM COMPREM, com consciência (não precisa vender casa ou carro também) só não percam a oportunidade.
ale, você viu que esses 1000 BTC foi um usuário aqui do fórum que encontrou um pen drive de muito tempo atrás quando minerou? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231867.0Incrível Sobre comprar, estou comprando, desde sexta estou comprando em pequenas porções
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Eu sinceramente acreditei que o btc ia subir com o colapso das bolsas, porque em situações recentes o btc subia com quedas no mercado fiat e tal. Porém dessa vez foi geral mesmo. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) O baguiu é loko Sim, está tudo sangrando no momento, agora está atingindo em cheio o Brasil, e com tudo parado prevejo mais queda Não aguentei e comprei um pouco de BTC, se cair mais vou comprar mais um pouco ainda ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Below $3k is as hard to manipulate as above $12k. The $3k mark is the price from 1st August 2017, a historic date for bitcoin, which was when BCH had forked from it. Below $3k is the area from the other bear market, the one from 2013, and the consequent recovery and bull-run.
Those who bought above $3k will likely not sell below it, as it is too cheap. Those who bought below $3k but didnt suffer the 2013 bear market will also not sell it, as they probably experimented the 2017 bubble and consequent crash. Those who bought below $3k and did suffer the 2013 bear market have already sold if they wanted to. They are early adopters and if they weren't in DCA the prices from 2018 and 2019 would look high to them.
So its hard to bring the price below $3k. I read that 60 billion dollars were withdrawn from the bitcoin markets in the recent manipulation. The bearwhales will make much less if they dump it to three digits, and might not work after all.
I saw the price touching the $3000s last night, and only lasted a few minutes. People will flock to buy in.
all of your point are true but if economy get worse there's no garrenty price won't fall below 3k. let's all hope btc won't fall anymore since huge amount cash already withdrawn. Scrap it. When I wrote it I still was using some reasoning. But there is no reasoning when there is a derivatives casino operating against bitcoin. Now that the source has been identified, its much more easy to do a prediction. We are going to zero in less than a month. Right now its pointing to sub-$1000. But there is no buy liquidity in that area, people who buy will have difficulty to sell. So it will take two or three weeks to reach the two-digit area, and then its zero. Ok, do you really trust in what you're saying? Because you can bet all your money against BTC and probably became millionaire
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Finally I came into this thread This time I came here to say I have much more in BTC than I should, and I'm thinking to put more fiat into 4,730USD ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Usually I don't like to give tips, or saying for sure that something is going to happen, but this time for me is incredible, BTC is very cheap right now If you follow the holders, old users from here, people who are into BTC for years, almost all are buying now, this is a good indicator that the price is very cheap right now Maybe will fall more and more, but soon or later the price will rise again
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Pois é, um momento histórico que estamos vivendo, e como sempre, há oportunidades pra quem souber aproveitar, mas a grande maioria sofre, e com pequenas coisas cria um efeito dominó que vai afetando cada vez mais pessoas Todos eventos esportivos já estão cancelados praticamente, o efeito negativo que isso está gerando é gigantesco, não é nem pelos jogadores e grandes empresários, mas pessoas que ganham menos também dependem de eventos etc, enfim acho que todo mundo já sabe ...
Uau, você postou e depois eu também vi no meu feed essa notícia que o cara tinha guardado no pen drive tudo isso, e ele despejou sem dó ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Incrível, eu pensava que já tinha acabado todos que tinham esquecido esses BTC guardados... O mais engraçado é que a gente aqui especulando que era uma grande baleia que estava precisando de dinheiro e vendeu ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) E era alguém que ficou milionário de repente ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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When a person is addicted to something, this person is sick, and it doesn't matter how, he/she will find a way to gamble, today is easy to find some place to bet Here in my country there are lots of illegal places that people used to gamble, and addicteds don't care about crisis
But if a person can use this situation to stop, it will be good for her/him.
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I won't change your mind ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There are some panic people that sold their coins, but the whales sold first creating this huge crash, and after some time they will buy again For us holders nothing has changed, and I already some more satoshis in this fall
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Interesting to revisit here after a crash
Some people are trying to achieve at least 1 whole BTC in this crash, and I'm included, I'll not reach 1 BTC very soon, but I'm trying and today was a great day to buy The idea of having a entire BTC is awesome, let's see if the market goes down again, you'll se that this number of people will grow again
For sure the crash in the market price of bitcoin in the past days could be the reason why the addresses who own 1 bitcoin or above increases its new all-time high. The lower the market price of bitcoin the bigger the opportunity to invest in bitcoin and also the higher the profit that could make in the future. Also, this kind of dump already happened a lot of times in the market of bitcoin so it is not really new to every investor, personally I don't think bitcoin could lose its value since a lot of investors is surely going to take the opportunity to reinvest in bitcoin. Yes, sure, and another fact is the people who are buying now, are only people who already have BTC and it's used to, believing in the project no matter what People with only prices in mind already sold or are selling afraid of lose more money
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Bem legal, eu estou testando o Publish0x juntamente com o Brave browser, vamos ver quanto é possível juntar em um mês de navegação, sem que fique muito tempo, apenas uso normal A ideia do Publish0x é muito boa também, apesar de a estrutura do site não ser tão amigável, apesar de ser bonito Eu ainda prefiro a estrutura de fórum igual a esse por exemplo, eu consigo me localizar muito facilmente
como tá indo a experiência com os BAT por aí por enquanto? começamos praticamente juntos ne? aqui até agora tenho 3.4 BATs pendentes e 64 notificações de anuncios recebidas. Não consegui começar aquele dia, toda vez que inicio um projeto chega um milhão de coisas pra fazer no meu serviço regular ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) E eu não pude trocar pelo Brave por causa dos meus plugins, favoritos, cookies etc do navegador que uso no trabalho Mas agora vou começar essa segunda, já consegui deixar tudo certinho, vamos atualizando aqui
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Its only worth it if you know for certain that in the near future the price of bitcoin and altcoins will be much higher than it is today. However in that case you can just buy the coins directly.
However with cloud mining you need to understand the terms. Usually when mining goes below a profitable mining point, the contract will be void. So most likely after what just happened recently, unless the price rebounds and stays above maybe $8000 or so, then the contract will be voided and you won't get any mining profits anymore. Just doesn't make sense to cloud mine. Either buy the hardware and mine yourself or just buy the coins.
Thanks a lot! I also don't see any advantage of cloud mining... I guess buying coin directly is better if I believe the price will rise... So why cloud mining platform like Genisis Mining can still exist? Who will buy the service? Because they offer something that looks good People thinking they are on the game of mining, seeing some hashrate on the website, but most of the cases are just fake The real mining you can do is with your own hardware or nicehash for example where you rent the hashrate and can point to any coin or pool you want
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