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5281  Other / Politics & Society / Re: lefties righties on: October 15, 2014, 03:08:02 AM
I'd like to jerk off with my left hand

TMI dude. ROFL
5282  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Poll] Free Ross OR Kill Ross <search for public opinion> on: October 15, 2014, 02:28:31 AM
I can't say I disagree with either one of you. When I was a young single guy in college I could have been either one of you. My attitudes changed when I became a father. I made the extreme post showing the photos because I want people to understand this is a real issue not a hypothetical one. Is the girl in the photo just some knocked up stupid bitch that let her boyfriend hook her on drugs or is she someone's daughter or sister in trouble? Perspective is everything. It's easy to want freedom for this drug dealer (or facilitator) if his release won't effect you personally. I know jailing this guy is like floating in a sea of shit and reaching over the side of the boat to pick up one turd. It seems stupid until you realize that all you can do is flush one turd at a time.

Young people don't always make the best decisions. Mainly because they're immortal. I know because I was immortal until I was about 30. I don't know how to get my kids to 30 without being overprotective. Many times the legal system overprotects people even when it can't really solve the problems. But some people think they're immortal or their just stupid and need protection. Is it the best system? Definately not. Is it a good system? Definately not but it's the only tool I have to work with today.

5283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just paid the $100K USD via BTC to become a Platinum Member of TBF. on: October 15, 2014, 01:05:28 AM
I was wondering that too. That makes no sense unless you're just a TBF shill.

BTW: Thanks for cleaning that link up. It was late and I was tired so I just pasted the Google search link. I'll change it to yours.

I don't know what it is with those stupid massively long Google search results.  If I search for a link to XYZ, I want XYZ.  I don't want....

https://Google.com followed by 300 characters of gibberish

Yeah, I don't know what that crap is either?

Usually I'd get rid of it but my head was bobbing and I thought screw it they'll figure it out. lol
5284  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia Plans Bitcoin Ban by 2015 on: October 15, 2014, 01:00:45 AM
Wasn't Deepbit in Russia? Maybe the legal landscape is why they flaked out? Tycho hasn't been around in a year.
5285  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Poll] Free Ross OR Kill Ross <search for public opinion> on: October 15, 2014, 12:52:20 AM
I love theoretical debates about perfect societies but Ross is creating junkies right now. What do we do immediately?

No one is suggesting a perfect society is attainable over even something that we want to achieve. I am involved in different non profits to fight against these problems. Do you need me to create a list of things you can help with?

You also have the fact that SR made it much easier to get addicted to drugs and made it easier for addictions to get worse both of which are things that our public policy tries to prevent

This is just silly. Perhaps the silk road made it easier to get a greater choice of addictive drugs , but if someone wants to get high on something addictive they are going to do so with or without the silk road with a greater amount of ease than using the silk road.

There were also at least two sets of murders that Ross allegedly attempted to pay for. If this is true then SR is not all that different from any other drug gang.

How is two hypothetical murders anywhere near the violence per capita levels of street hustling with violent gangs and dangerous police?

I believe that a mild punishment for Ross Ulbricht will not accomplish anything. He can simply leave prison, learn from his mistakes and perfect the marketplace. Nonprofits are great but they don't eliminate the problem any more than they eliminate homelessness. The legal system can't solve the "dangerous" drug problem any more than it can stop homelessness. The drug war is a joke and isn't stopping the problem but it at least the fear of being caught might be stopping a few teenaged girls from becoming junkie moms. With SR there was no fear. You could order not just pot but deadly drugs like you were buying socks off of Amazon. I understand that we need to get involved to stop these problems and I plan to get involved any time my daughters boyfriend has her try hard drugs. Some of these girls don't have family to help them and don't know about the nonprofits that can help. They only know they love and trust their boyfriend and he loves heroin. It may surprise you to learn that I support legalized recreational marijuana and I vote for it every time it's on the ballot.
5286  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Poll] Free Ross OR Kill Ross <search for public opinion> on: October 14, 2014, 11:58:52 PM
Ok, we live without society in a village without laws or taxes. We told her not to do it but she did anyway. Should we kill her retarted kid instead of supporting it and letting it become a burden on our villages food supply?

Law and rules can and do exist with or without the state. These laws may be social or natural, even without community guidelines or politics.
While we cannot eliminate drug addicts we can certainly reduce them by raising our standard of living and reducing violence and abuse (especially against children).
This will allow us merely to reduce heroin/meth addicts. The next step is prevention. Legalized drug use with needle exchange programs (private non-profit )to reduce disease and offer free birth control(preferably something like depo-provera where the junky doesn't need to remember taking the pill). OK , now much less incidents , but there will always be some crazy bitch , perhaps schizophrenic, perhaps she wants a child, who knows, but it will happen... what's next? After she has the child the community should monitor her and non-profits should be free to help her and the child or not, and offer to find a family who wishes to adopt a child if the junky is being grossly negligent or is tired of the responsibility. None of this needs to involve welfare , taxes, or forcing you to be involved. There are plenty of people like myself who understand the implications of the situation and are willing to donate time and money to prevent such societal problems.
 

I love theoretical debates about perfect societies but Ross is creating junkies right now. What do we do immediately?
5287  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Poll] Free Ross OR Kill Ross <search for public opinion> on: October 14, 2014, 09:42:09 PM
Ok, we live without society in a village without laws or taxes. We told her not to do it but she did anyway. Should we kill her retarted kid instead of supporting it and letting it become a burden on our villages food supply?
5288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia Plans Bitcoin Ban by 2015 on: October 14, 2014, 09:10:05 PM
this is old news.  Btw, I thought btc-e is based in Bulgaria, not Russia.

Cyprus now, I think.

oih cyprus home of the bucketshop forex brokers.. not safe

Funny that they are the only long standing exchange that hasn't screwed me. In fact, when they were hacked and my bitcoins were stolen they gave them back.
5289  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Poll] Free Ross OR Kill Ross <search for public opinion> on: October 14, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
Most people see it as selling this:







Which is mostly this:






But they also sold this:







Which is mostly this:







Should society take no action to protect this stupid little pregnant bitch? What do we do with that retarded kid when she craps it out? I'm not paying for it for the rest of its life in my taxes.
5290  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Block Chain Based Decentralized Exchange on: October 14, 2014, 07:39:10 PM
counterparty/counterwallet.. are web/cloud based...

ummm.. isnt that defeating the whole buzz word dream of "decentralized"

I like counterparty.io because Patrick Byrne announced at a conference I just attended that he was going to partner up with them and I'm a fanboy. Do you mind! lol
5291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia Plans Bitcoin Ban by 2015 on: October 14, 2014, 06:57:38 PM
this is old news.  Btw, I thought btc-e is based in Bulgaria, not Russia.

Cyprus now, I think.
5292  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 14, 2014, 06:43:58 PM

LOL - notice Josh isn't denying any of this.
5293  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia Plans Bitcoin Ban by 2015 on: October 14, 2014, 06:40:13 PM
The only part that I would be sad about would be the potential shutdown of btc-e.  That seems to be the easiest exchange to work with, and it would be a bummer to see it shut down because of a law like this getting implemented.  

They don't think it's a problem: http://www.coindesk.com/btc-e-concerns-russian-criminal-investigation/
5294  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia Plans Bitcoin Ban by 2015 on: October 14, 2014, 06:19:09 PM
Hey I have read that Bitcoin is illegal in many countries. Could someone please explain why ? As to what threats it possesses that governments like Russia plan to ban it !

Countries like Russia only really enjoy things if they're illegal. I'm now convinced that everyone in Russia is gay since they declared a ban on LGBT rallies.
5295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Block Chain Based Decentralized Exchange on: October 14, 2014, 05:56:49 PM
In your system who is the trusted party that holds the fiat?

The issuer would be the trusted party to hold fiat. But by integrating the concept of multi-sig tx multiple issuers can issue a single Fiat and a consortium of issuer can be trusted party to hold fiat. However I will have to rework on certain elements of the paper to introduce multi-sig based issue.

Thanx for initiating a new thought line that can be added on to table.



You have looked at counterparty.io, right? Adam Krellenstein has done a pretty good job with it and it's ready to use right now.
5296  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 14, 2014, 05:50:55 PM
I'm good with that definition. Josh is a psychopath. Yeah, that works for me.
Here's a fun game we can all play !

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-do-you-know-if-youre-a-psychopath-2013-2?op=1

Josh, Bruce, Sonny, Jody, Jeff, Nassar et al, "...don't worry if you score too high. Dutton's book argues that society actually couldn't function without psychopaths."

That's hilarious. I think most of the business owners on this forum would pass that test with a 30 or above. Of course Josh would get a perfect score.
5297  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Block Chain Based Decentralized Exchange on: October 14, 2014, 05:23:12 PM
In your system who is the trusted party that holds the fiat?
5298  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just paid the $100K USD via BTC to become a Platinum Member of TBF. on: October 14, 2014, 04:03:09 PM


*snip*

TBF has yet to show proof that KnC did indeed paid for their Platinum Membership.

*snip*




This is the matter that needs to be addressed by TBF.

The reputation of TBF is already shot to hell; if they show some integrity around these concerns it might go some way to repairing it.

Kudos to Phinn for his artful exposé.



This is not an issue that needs addressing, imho. And bitcoiners of all people should understand that. Disclosing the address(es) used for payment could lead to significant breaches of privacy.

Anyone care to post their largest transaction for hordes of people to scrutinize and track?
Let me get this straight.  You are claiming that the inability of those who have looked at the blockchain to locate a transaction which validates the payment of the 100K is no problem.  You are claiming somehow that examining a PUBLIC DATABASE, the blockchain, for the presence or absence of a particular payment is "bad".

Certainly an interesting point of view....

I was wondering that too. That makes no sense unless you're just a TBF shill.

BTW: Thanks for cleaning that link up. It was late and I was tired so I just pasted the Google search link. I'll change it to yours.
5299  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Documentary on Bitcoin - Summary Thread on: October 14, 2014, 03:57:43 PM
I just realized I'm actually in one of those.  Smiley


"The Bitcoin Phenomenon" (April 2014; length: 35min) Sq1.tv

That's funny. After watching it again, I realized that I'm in the conference crowd of a short clip in the Rise and Rise of Bitcoin. My 1.75 seconds of fame. lol
5300  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts/critics/appraisals on "The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin"? on: October 14, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
Watched it with my 74 year old mother. I liked it but thought it ended rather abruptly but I guess that had to do with them just trying to wrap it up and get it out the door.
She knows a little bit about Bitcoin but she said that afterwards she still doesn't think she knows any more about it than before she watched it. She kept asking how the companies in the movie were making money and I think the coverage of Silk Road and the drug dealer made her uneasy, she said afterwards that the movie made bitcoin sound kinda scary (being older and being in that mindset of believing the banks and drug war and all that).

I have to agree with you. I watched it for the second time with a couple of friends because I thought the movie showed a nice normal guy with a wife and kids loving Bitcoin. The part they focused on was the drug dealer. After the movie they said they didn't see a reason to use it because the things they do with money they can do right now. One of them said that if he was a drug user he would definitely use it. I gave up the appropriate defenses to that comment but that didn't work. Knowing they would never use Bitcoin, I just turned it into a joke asking them if they like booty. Don't you like booty? If you use Bitcoin it will definitely get you booty.

LOL I wonder if "Mister Bitcoin" trademarked his name by any chance.

With an easy to remember name like that, you'd think the DEA would be up his ass by now.   Cheesy

I also wondered if he was one of the unlucky people caught after the SR bust. Maybe Mr. Bitcoin has a greater mastery over the principals of Bitcoin anonymity than he has over the English language. lol
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