thanks for the link. I have to main points about it, firstly I don't know how thread ranks distribution is correlated to users opinion about the thread itself. Secondly, even if we get some way to say that a particular ranks distribution means a general approval for the thread among hero/legendary users, going from this to say that "Monero is considered by many legendary/hero members to be the next step in crypto" is quite a big jump, isn't it? Your request for citation was reasonable. Gainsaying and nit-picking at the requested citation, upon it it being graciously provided, is not reasonable. Nobody is stopping you from investigating "how thread ranks distribution is correlated to users opinion about the thread itself." RTFA. Stop moving the goal posts because you don't like the fact my assertion has a reasonable basis, demonstrated with empirical data. I'll save you the trouble. The Hero/Legendary posts in the XMR thread are positive and supportive, while the ones in the other threads are significantly less so. Notice the number of hero and legendary members? Darkcoin has 57 (2.23%) hero and 9 (0.35%) legendary versus Monero with 56 (3.94%) hero and 12 (0.85%) legendary. Percent wise monero has attracted more than twice legendary members and almost twice hero members.
In other words, it seems oldtimers gravitate towards monero/cryptonote and ignore darkcoin.
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Thank you for the Peter Todd and Greg Maxwell citations!
Are there any more core developers with a position either positive or negative on Monero?
Not a 'position' per se but Wladimir did make a small pull request against Monero recently, indicating that he's at least looking at the code. I don't expect that to be the case for too many other coins: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/329Nice catch! Have any other alts been graced with pull reqs from BTC core devs? Maybe namecoin, back in the ancient times? Oh, and obviously VIA (PTodd's chocolate factory). |
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At least one of them made out like a bandit tho...
assuming one of them actually did something wrong tho... Well, the jury is still out on that imho. It seems calling 'shill' in this place is like yelling 'fire' at an apathy convention. 
A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services.
The "covert" attribute is not in the normal definition. Why didn't you give us a link to your dictionary? Here the one to mine: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shillto act as a spokesperson or promoter Wikipedia/UrbanDictionary vs Merriam Webster? What's next, KnowYourMeme vs Britannica?  "Shill" often connotes deceptive lack of disclosure, but only compensation to the endorser is required to meet the definition. Connotation is not definition.Webster's not good enough for ya? Fine... Try OED: "a megamillionaire who makes more money as a shill for corporate products than he does for playing basketball" Obviously the shill in that example cannot be covert about his infamous corporate compensation. QED you got rekt son.  Arguing with me about English is as silly and futile as arguing with gmax about Bitcoin internals. Well maybe not futile, as both create a teachable moments.  |
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Whenever you make such a polarizing decision such as that, you're bound to have dissenters. Most agree that the name change was a sound long term decision. The general public casts a better view on "Digital Cash" than "DARKcoin", from my talks with people on the subject. Hi Tao, welcome to Monero Mountain. Glad you are having fun frolicking with us wild and free mustangs. Will you please update your Tao Ratio stats using NoodleDoodle's optimizations? As for your Dash ship, it does seem a little wrecked given Peter Todd's recent tweets and the fact your subreddit has less members than XMR's. What would it take to convince you the rebrand has not been a success? How long must we wait until you are willing to evaluate that executive decision critically rather than defensively? |
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DASH Solves Bitcoin’s Lack Of Privacy Problem
DASH solves Bitcoin's lack of privacy like a cargo cult's bamboo plane solves their lack of chocolate and cigarettes. |
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I think Chinese would be allowed here, if you also post the English translation. |
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It's just you. EG: MM time?
It's been a very busy week for Monero. I demand a new MoneroWorld Weekly Digest! Here I'll start: - part time core dev crowdfunding nearly done  -Chinese translation funded  -Arabic and many other translations Soon(tm) -Peter Todd says nice thing about Monero, trolls Dash, absolutely epic butthurt ensues  -NoodleDoodle issues massive commit bringing DB to RAM performance levels or better -RPIE announces his company will start the process of buying One Million Moneroj -8/8 is declared Lucky Monero Day in China -Jay-Z films new rap video sitting in hot tub filled with cryptonic coins, champagne, and groupies -Putin announces he will only sell gas/oil/vodka for XMR  -Monero Bears still understandably terrified of shorting, even given 0% loans  3 little additions - a finnish company is planning to get more exposure to monero (edit: just saw that you already mentiioned this) - a faucet is going to launch within the next few weeks - 2 newly corwdfunded xmr nodes via bitnodes.net( https://bitnodes.net/status/) are up have a good start in this new week gang! Nice recap. I think I missed the faucet news. Where was that? |
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MM time?
It's been a very busy week for Monero. I demand a new MoneroWorld Weekly Digest! Here I'll start: - part time core dev crowdfunding nearly done -Chinese translation funded -Arabic and many other translations Soon(tm) -Peter Todd says nice thing about Monero, trolls Dash, absolutely epic butthurt ensues -NoodleDoodle issues massive commit bringing DB to RAM performance levels or better -RPIE announces his company will start the process of buying One Million Moneroj -8/8 is declared Lucky Monero Day in China -Jay-Z films new rap video sitting in hot tub filled with cryptonic coins, champagne, and groupies -Putin announces he will only sell gas/oil/vodka for XMR -Monero Bears still understandably terrified of shorting, even given 0% loans |
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I'm not so sure about this.
Most people I've encountered who are into Dash tend to be the dumbest dumbest muthafuckers on the planet. I mean seriously, if there's an award going for the "stupidest weed-smoking brain-dead plastic-politics fucking-imbecile fuck-da-NSA-but-I-don't-even-know-how-to-do-it" community, then Dash takes it everytime.
It's like sellng ice to the Eskimos.
"Instamine? Masternodess? Nahhh I just wanna buy dwugs... gimme dwugszz... Fuck the NSA mannnn."
Seriously, take a visit to any exchange trollbox and it's always the stupidest cunts in the room who own or support Dash. Every fucking time.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Darkcoin was born when a few Dogers got lost and were accidentally fed after midnight. Gone is the semblance of cuteness, replaced with a grotesquery of vacuous intention... yet still ultimately retards and self-microwaveable.
So are Dash types incredibly stupid? Yes.
But pedophiles? I don't think so.
Dash types may be both. Now that I think about it, their "Darkcoin" marketing was targeted at the 4chan types. So of course a little teasing from Peter Todd is of much greater concern than a report of their coin being used for pure evil. I don't usually cheer for the TLA JBTs, but in this case I hope they pwn enough MolesterNodes to destroy whatever fake bamboo version of privacy Dash offers. |
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I'm not so much sure a "fake" - more like a copy. The money made in crypto is convincing those with little technical understanding that something is something that it isn't. The good ones copy, lie / mislead a little, & rebrand the hard work that's already been done (or keep things "closed sourced") for a time. It seems to pay off for them, why so much hate? House of cards comes down eventually always . . . .
"It's a copy of GreenAddress in the same way a cargo cult's bamboo runway is a copy."Would you want to be in a plane landing on a bamboo runway?  |
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Please don't forget to note his sincere rebuttal:  In conclusion, |
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At least one of them made out like a bandit tho...
assuming one of them actually did something wrong tho... Well, the jury is still out on that imho. It seems calling 'shill' in this place is like yelling 'fire' at an apathy convention.
A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services.
The "covert" attribute is not in the normal definition. Why didn't you give us a link to your dictionary? Here the one to mine: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shillto act as a spokesperson or promoter |
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haha. poor little iCEBlow. such a failure in all his investments. a failure in HF, a failure in XMR, and a failure in gold. no wonder you have to spend all your time following me around hoping i rub off on you:
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That's right, pretend you didn't just falsely accuse me of saying you used sock puppets at Reddit. No need to apologize for being wrong... You used to like it when I bumped your thread. Are you waffling over that too? I didn't make out like a bandit from the HF venture, but at least I don't have hungry pitbulls from Katten chomping on my leg, desperate for blood. Failure in XMR? Bro, I'm up ~100% in XMR, whose crowdfunded development and whale onboarding balls are just starting to accrete snow. Remember when we told you 25 cent XMR was a steal, but you were too fucking stubborn to listen? Yeah, good times. As for gold and silver collapsing, I am buying, not selling, at these prices and welcome the opportunity to stack Eagles and Maples for ~$20 each! My Hecla stock isn't going to zero, and they are benefiting from dirt cheap fire sale acquisitions. Ditto for New Gold, my other favorite miner. I've already learned all you have to teach me ("HOLD!"). I appreciate that, and am trying to return the favor. |
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Thank you for the Peter Todd and Greg Maxwell citations! Are there any more core developers with a position either positive or negative on Monero? Adam Back worked on ring signatures, but IDK his position on Monero. He was considering a more efficient (less blockchain bloating) version of them, a task recently completed by gmax. |
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I'm not trying to convince you of anything; you're obviously a hardened loyalist who is trying to spin a Bitcoin Dev's analysis of their investment into a hand-waving distraction, "But over here..."
Masternodes are a human controlled point of failure that has never nor ever will be incorporated into a serious cryptosystem. These systems are fragile enough without excessive parts that serve no real purpose other than to funnel money into the greedy hands of early adopters.
Snake oil.
I'm sorry, but I have read what Peter Todd said, and he has no idea what he is talking about. Comparing instant X to green addresses or DarkSend to CoinJoin is like comparing boiled wheat to a German Chocolate cake. He acts as if none of the issues in those first thought experiments were resolved. I agree, I'm a fan of DASH and of Evan Duffield, because he really thinks outside of the box, has come up with super eloquent solutions to resolve those issues, keeping everything simple and verifiable. That takes genius. Complicating things to the point where you lose all the beauty of why Bitcoin works is simply death. Peter Todd is an expert in crypto and computer science. You only attacked his credentials *AFTER* he dared to criticized a coin you are holding bags of. If he said, 'Yes I love Dash, and Monero is rubbish' you would obviously be singing his praises. That's called hypocrisy... Breaking gmax's CoinJoin and renaming it "DarkSend" isn't thinking "outside of the box." Breaking green addresses and renaming them "InstantX" isn't thinking "outside of the box." Ignoring Bitcoin's raison d'etre, which is trustlessness, by involving trusted third parties in the form of Masternodes isn't thinking "outside of the box." None of that is any more "genius" than a cargo cult priest's "outside of the box" idea to build bamboo runways. |
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Bitcoin is not here to create monopolies, it is here to destroy them. And it brought a friend... Because of the automatic availability of privacy with the opt-in alternative of transparency, everything true about BTC is twice as true for XMR. IE, defection previously impossible or too risky using BTC is now enabled via XMR's radical opacity. Very interesting analysis. I don't necessarily think the events above will happen soon, but when they do they could happen quickly. I see many hero members make positive and negative comments about Monero. Are they any bitcoin core developers that have a public position on its cryptography one way or the other? Yes, Monero is considered by many legendary/hero members to be the next step in crypto. No other coin even comes close. Peter Todd says XMR's crypto is legitimate: https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/622022840330682368gmax has an XMR address on his profile (which can expect a nice Halving Day present from me). |
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Nope, not me. I've on several occasions told you I don't post at Reddit and despise the venue. If you think the core devs are BS, I suggest you stop running their code. Biting the hands which feed you is considered impolite, and performative contradictions destroy credibility. Not that you have much left after the failed 20MB jihad, failed XT putsch, failed anti-sidechain/lightning FUD, gmax administered spankings, embarrassing Chicken Little falling sky routine, and logical contortions in the Gavin "financial crisis is over" kerfuffle. |
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Proposal: RPEX1. Beg, steal, or borrow TheKoziTwo's idle CN exchange code. 2. Host it on clear and/or dark web. 3. Use MPEX-style high membership fees and GPG rigmarole to ensure security and keep out unprofitable high-maintenance plebs. Maybe even stay private and invite-only. 4. Sell shares of the exchange on the exchange ( RPOE.s) It is a regular, unregulated all-purpose business registered in Finland dating back to 2010, with no tax payable unless assets are sold, 2% tax on the aftermarket transactions on the company stock, and possible capital gains tax depending on your jurisdiction. We don't have a restriction on who can buy the stock, except that the deal must be private (may not be constantly advertised to unbounded number of people). To reduce hassle, minimum would be a few €k. If you don't have that, you are probably in the position to buy the coins directly and don't need this. Appreciate the proposal though That's a great way to get the hands-off less-nerdy investor types access to XMR exposure. Looking the other direction, I proposed RPEX and XMR-e because MPEX and BTC-e played such key roles in the rise of Bitcoin. Gox got all the hype and media attention, but the more resilient System D structures quietly humming along in the background provide valuable templates for XMR's financial and economic development. I think my proposals just became predictions...  |
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I think people are getting confused between the optimal properties of base money and the priorities of record keeping on behalf of the holders of such.
If I expand my little example of earlier - where a plumber agrees to do a job for you in exchange for your bike
First, you fail to defend Dash against Peter Todd's "snake oil/fake crypto" charges. Then you lash out at Monero, making untrue assertions which you failed to prove, becoming in the process embarrassingly lost in the intricacies of Basic Cryptonote 101. And now, you are retreating with hands a-waving into comforting fuzzy generalities about "optimal properties of base money" while invoking ink-cloud nonsense about plumbers and bikes. If you backpedaled any faster, your bike chain would have come off. And if you "don't like being attacked" I suggest not attacking others. |
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