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5321  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 22, 2015, 06:26:03 AM
ofcourse i chose gold

why ?
because bitcoin will bankrupt / smthing

and gold u can keep it until u die xD
no one investment is safe, not gold,bitcoin,property or etc. every investment have a risk and gold in this year drop -40%

No investment guarantees you the success. It is better to diversify the investments in different products. But for me I choose Gold over bitcoin as Gold have many satisfied customers who have invested in the past and have earned good profits too. So I would choose to invest in Gold rather then bitcoins.


To invest you must risk, we can see in history how often people lose by their investment or didnt get all the invest at the end

Every investments sure got risk, whether it is high risk high gain or low risk low gain, it depends on yourself though. Actually it depends on which investment do you take. And you need to diversify it to make the risk lower so if you fail on this investment you still got others to cover the loss so you wont lose much on one investment
5322  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: July 22, 2015, 06:16:47 AM
for all people
are you earning from signature campaign only?

why you not try your luck in trading?

Because signature campaign are more profitable and low risk if you compared to trading. Yes trading is profitable too but the reason why people dont do trading much is because of the volatility and that will make they lose a lot. And I think most of them are just stack their bitcoin that they earned it from signature campaign and when the time comes they just sell it to get more profit.


5323  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 20, 2015, 05:48:04 PM
Gold is shiny and looks pretty if your that type of character where you fund happiness and comfort from physical stuff lke gold then it is better for you

Gold is always better if you compare it with bitcoin. As people have more faith in gold and it is more popular as compared to the bitcoins. So people would prefer more to invest in gold especially the older generation as they don't know anything about the bitcoins.

Gold is just win only thing from bitcoin. That is its stable price, others than that bitcoin win it for sure. Bitcoin is just the same as gold if you compared it by the price, gold has a stable price which is good for a long investment besides bitcoin has a volatile price and you can get profit from it everyday if you know how to manage it. Both if them are sure profitable

you call this a stable price? http://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart

look from 2000 to 2015 basically gold returned to its primarely value, after an ath of more than 2k, a loss of almost 85%

from 350 to 1600 to today price in 15 years only, not very different than what bitcoin is doing right now...

the stability of gold is overrated

But with this price lately gold is more stable if you compared it to bitcoin, bitcoin just in a few minutes it will up and down like crazy. That is why people are more likely saving gold. But thanks you for giving a great information
5324  Economy / Gambling / Re: ➫ ➬ ➫ ➬ LUCKYB.IT ★ +1.5M bets ★ +73k BTC wagered on: July 20, 2015, 05:01:15 PM
Earlier when I used to play there, I lso got some tips but never 0.07 + !! , so lucky bud , enjoy !

Lotto chat reward now has been improved. It means if you making more wagered in last 24 hours with that address, you will win a quite big prize just like stingleword did

But chat-lotto is still random taking some on winning? Although if you wagered it but still people will have chance to 'steal' it from you. Grin. Correct me if Im wrong
5325  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io Bitcoin Casino ★VIP★15% Affiliate Bonus PLINKO|DICE|HORSE RACING on: July 20, 2015, 03:06:22 PM

Thanks a lot for betterbets. At last I get my bounty here. Gotta play this more often to get more bounty. Thanks mod (arallmuus)and bjorn and lobos too
5326  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io Bitcoin Casino ★VIP★15% Affiliate Bonus PLINKO|DICE|HORSE RACING on: July 20, 2015, 08:29:55 AM
Again Bjorn and Lobos. Congrats for second anniv for both of you guys and mod that helps this site too. This is a great event and hope I will win some of this. Btw can we claim this every time? Or just once?
5327  Economy / Gambling / Re: ➫ ➬ ➫ ➬ LUCKYB.IT ★ +1.5M bets ★ +73k BTC wagered on: July 18, 2015, 06:04:18 AM
Oh no, increased fee now its gonna hurt when you spam the bets  Cry

You can send multiple bets in 1 transaction. I always place 20 bets on red in 1 transaction. So it will only cost me 0.0002 for 20 bets.

unfortunately i only use blockchain.info wallet..

blockchain is also can send multiple transaction using custom and you can send it from different address too, I ever send 50 transaction and it costs only one time miners fee, you can try it
5328  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin as a Retirement Account on: July 18, 2015, 05:58:25 AM
Locking funds till you reach the retirement age. That's risky and safe at the same time. Why would anyone want to to lock the funds , if he/ she cannot use it in the times of need. But yeah in a way , a future planning is happening.

But that's exactly what pretty much what everyone does as a retirement account or with their pension for example. People save because they need to as when they retire they wont have any money otherwise. Sure, keeping your money in bitcoin is risky but so is keeping it in a pension or in your bank in some cases. I think putting some money into bitcoin could pay dividends by the time you retire but nothing is guarnteed.

Nothing is guaranteed that is for sure But having bitcoin as a retirement account is an good idea as you can withdraw your bitcoins whenever you need. I think it is better then the pension plans or fixed deposits where you have locking period and you cannot withdraw unless it gets matured and if you withdraw when it is pre-mature then banks charges heavily on it.

Having bitcoin as a retirement is good if you hold much of bitcoin, with a low bitcoin I dont think this is a good idea. There is too many things that need to be implemented in bitcoin and all of this need mass adoption. Although you got bitcoin but there are no adoption, this will just stay the same and bitcoin will go nowhere

ya that's true. If you have it as an retirement account that totally depends on the number of bitcoins you hold. If you have good number of bitcoins then your retirement period would be wealthy and rich and you don't have to depend on any other investment products.

This is wrong, although you got some solid retirement that will make you wealthy enough, you still need others investments too like insurance to make your life better. Doesnt mean that if you have all of money you will stop right there, because people never satisfied to what they have now and they will earn more and more just to having a great life
5329  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 18, 2015, 05:55:18 AM
Gold is shiny and looks pretty if your that type of character where you fund happiness and comfort from physical stuff lke gold then it is better for you

Gold is always better if you compare it with bitcoin. As people have more faith in gold and it is more popular as compared to the bitcoins. So people would prefer more to invest in gold especially the older generation as they don't know anything about the bitcoins.

Gold is just win only thing from bitcoin. That is its stable price, others than that bitcoin win it for sure. Bitcoin is just the same as gold if you compared it by the price, gold has a stable price which is good for a long investment besides bitcoin has a volatile price and you can get profit from it everyday if you know how to manage it. Both if them are sure profitable




Gold is shiny and looks pretty if your that type of character where you fund happiness and comfort from physical stuff lke gold then it is better for you

Gold is always better if you compare it with bitcoin. As people have more faith in gold and it is more popular as compared to the bitcoins. So people would prefer more to invest in gold especially the older generation as they don't know anything about the bitcoins.

What about invest in gold whit bitcoin? I have a 20% on gold and 80% on bitcoin

Invest gold using bitcoin? That is a pointless thing to do
5330  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 18, 2015, 05:46:20 AM
Investing is not that easy because you have to hire a broker and pay him, you first need to save some money.
I earn around 650 USD/month and manage to save around 300, I am waiting to have 1000~2000 USD to get into market.

What are you saying? Do you need brokers when you invest in bitcoin? I dont think so, in bitcoin you learn how to maintain your bitcoin by yourselves, profit or loss it is determined by your works not broker
5331  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: July 18, 2015, 05:40:41 AM
Buy a significant amount of all coins between top 3 and top 15 and wait until the Chinese pump them. Similar to Litecoin, Dash, Masternode and probably Peercoin and Namecoin over the last weeks. Strategy works fine.  Cool

Just get a random pick between top 3 and top 15? Is that a good strategy just to random pick like that? That is a very risky to do, I think chinese wont just randomly pump on something like that except there are some future in that coin. This is only my thought I dont know whether it works like that or not because from what I see some like litecoin and doge that is a good future with it and they have a great volume  of trading in 24hours so it will have a chance from them to pump it again
5332  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC on: July 18, 2015, 05:33:20 AM
Best way is still dollar cost averaging. Keep buying Bitcoin monthly with a % you can afford to lose. Thats the key to buy a good stack. Everything else is too much risk.

If he buys btc and the price doesn't increase, the guy goes in loss for a while till it booms up, if you haven't bserved, he's looking for a quick way to double his money. Buying btc is an investment which might go out of your time period. If you buy btc wile booming, you will be paying much more and still taking the same risk. I'd rather advise you to gamble if you want to make money really fast. You're a grown man and you'd know the risks.

Gambling is 50:50 whether you lose all of it or win it, and that is sure a very risky to double your bitcoin. And I dont think that is the best way to double your bitcoin since there are so many places to double it



it could have been more feasible in the altcoin era, where by investing in the making of a new alt and premine it, you could have earned a very significant amount

Altcoin is one of a good way to earn but picking a random choice of altcoin is not good. You really need some experience on picking a good altcoin to make some profit

otherwise you can buy an hero or more hero account, join some campaign make some profit, and sell your hero again, you can double pretty easily and without risk

I think this is still the best, buying account then join a good payout campaign is the best, no need to sell your account if that is profitable to you
5333  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: July 18, 2015, 04:40:50 AM
I think it would depend on the amount. But in principle I would prefer bitcoin. I would then buy gold and get some cash with half of it, and keep the remaining in btc to see where it goes.

Yes bitcoin is great to make investment but for you buying gold using bitcoin? Whats the point? I think you can get more with invest in bitcoin rather than change it to gold. It is just pointless, why dont invest in both of them? Gold has a stable price with it and bitcoin has a volatile price but with this volatile price of bitcoin we can get earn more of it
5334  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 18, 2015, 04:29:49 AM
There are several ways to try to become rich honestly with work and difficult and increasingly , unless invent some kind app what the app that popularized and was bought , but what takes talent and combined knowledge , or the politically dark mood , or by other means but the risk of being arrested and losing huge and this type of vida.Ainda is possible to get a good amount of crypto even if it is not at first launch, for example litecoin , and the Doge already been in the house dos0 , 013btc and 40 satohis both already doubled its value in recent months more than once and already reached 50 % of valorization , to enrich these cases need to already have a good amount of money about 100000dollars order to achieve the rich status.

Do you mean that you ask us to pick random crypto and then invest as much as we can? Then wait a good time to sell it to the market with high price? Is that you suggesting us? If yes may be that is good to say rather than do, people never hold altcoin so long, they just mining it to get some of them and then they will sell it as fast as they can after the price is increasing. And btw that is hard for you to just pick randomly altcoin here
5335  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 18, 2015, 04:00:14 AM
So it is better to save at initial stage and once you hold a good capital invest it.

You are totally wrong on this . Big capital isnt the sole things that you need for investment because the interest rate mostly stay the same or differ a bit but the fact is that you can still invest with a fraction of your money but this will only gets you a smaller interest gain.
What matters most will be your capital control ( financial management ) because without it you can lose it all to a bogus investment with a blink of an eye. Also it is kinda funny to see this, saving to put it into investment later on because investment is kinda like speculation which is unpredictable( things might get south to your savings )

But with big capital the payout from each interest will be bigger too although the interest is low, for example like you put $100 interest 5%=  $2, then you put $1000 with 3% of your interest the result is bigger than small capital. Although investment still have a high risk too but there are still a solid investment out there. Except gambling I dont think you will lose your capital just with a blink if an eye, because others investment sure give you some payment too so at least you wont lose all of your money there
5336  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC on: July 16, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
Stick to a good trade or whatever skill you may already have and then use that money to purchase bitcoin.  Everything else is too high risk.  But if you want to burn some bitcoin feel free to throw a few poker or casino games.  Always good for some entertainment at least.  Also, if you have some decent GPUs try farming some altcoins and convert it to btc.  It adds up after a while and you could be getting 2-4 btc a year with 6 cards

Trading always is a good thing to do and its fastest earning too but to throw a lot in gambling, you will suffer more than you ever know and that is not wise idea because in the end you will always lose, although you have a high bankroll that will not guarantee you will keep on winning too, its ok if it is just for fun but better think twice because gambling is very addicted
5337  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: July 16, 2015, 02:04:23 PM
Maybe invest on LTC could be good idea too.....

i will invest in ltc maybe in some other coin too but like always 50% keep in btc 25% invest in something and 25% i withdraw

What do you think about LTC especially for it progress in 5 years maybe, i would stored 10 LTC i think the price will be up because its have own market and have big comunity like bitcoin and dogecoin,beside to stored  bitcoin i think litecoin is a best way to

LTC is an altcoin, just like other coins like dogecoin. Altcoins wouldn't exist if bitcoins won't exist. In the long term you know bitcoin will always have an upper hand and more chances of acceptance and adoption in the future so other altcoins are just trading pump and dump coins which can be used to make quick money out of.

But altcoin like LTC or dash have a great future too, the price is increasing too. Both of them are not pump and dump too, you will get a good amount if you invest in it. IMO old altcoin is better compare to new altcoin, and a new altcoin is just pump and dump coins because they just make it only for miners not really want to get it big

maybe monero is a better candidate because it actually offer something, besides being a pure clone, litcoin only offer what? its name that's all, strong name work sometime and that's the case, the same for doge which reflect a meme

what is sure, is that at least another coin will play side by side with bitcoin, i'm sure about that, especially when bitcoin will go mainstream and the regulation will be to fierce, people will start to use more obscured and unknown coins

like they are using bitcoin now instead of fiat

Yes monero also good enough but when compare to volume of the trade I think LTC is far winning from them that will make LTC is fast in earning. See this http://coinmarketcap.com/. The different monero and LTC is so far in 24hours like around thousands percent. Dash and doge have a better volume than monero in 24 hours trading
5338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's your biggest problem with Bitcoin on: July 16, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
Transaction time is a biggest concern. Some time its instant. Other time it takes much time and some users even wait for like 5 confirmation which normally take 30 mins for me now. So waiting seems to be drawback.
Transaction in Bitcoin actually Instant, Confirmation of the transaction which is takes much time.  Tongue


But what about the transaction that has no fee, they never get confirmed so sad Sad

It's impossible that a transactions gets frozen forever as far as I know. All transactions eventually get processed, it will just take a lot more to get it done. The best way to avoid this is always paying the standard fee.

Well that is the best way but i have seen transactions even with some low fee, it didnt get confirmed what will happen if they dont get confirmed ? how long will stay or will lost forever that unconfirmed amount?

It is just random, I make 2 transaction with usual fee, the first one is confirmed like about below one hour and the second one it get 3 days to confirmed. IMO whoever pay more fee he will get the first chance to get confirmed but with a low miners fee I dont think it will go fast. Like I just said it takes 3 days to confirm my transaction but at least it will confirm at last, just be patience
5339  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: July 16, 2015, 01:36:31 PM
yes few satoshi by faucets.

Do faucets pay you anything? IMO its not worth the small amount of satoshi you earn.

When i used to try faucets, the freebitcoin paid me but the amount is to low for that work and time spent in

Indeed, good paying faucets are all gone :\

Nope, there are no good faucets or bad faucets? All faucets is just the same, if you got tons of referall you will sure get tons of payout too. But for me all faucets always got a low payout compare to signature campaign. Why? Because the time you spend on signature campaign is less than you doing faucets with the same amount. So signature campaign is worth to do than faucets
5340  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: July 16, 2015, 04:25:44 AM
Maybe invest on LTC could be good idea too.....

i will invest in ltc maybe in some other coin too but like always 50% keep in btc 25% invest in something and 25% i withdraw

What do you think about LTC especially for it progress in 5 years maybe, i would stored 10 LTC i think the price will be up because its have own market and have big comunity like bitcoin and dogecoin,beside to stored  bitcoin i think litecoin is a best way to

LTC is an altcoin, just like other coins like dogecoin. Altcoins wouldn't exist if bitcoins won't exist. In the long term you know bitcoin will always have an upper hand and more chances of acceptance and adoption in the future so other altcoins are just trading pump and dump coins which can be used to make quick money out of.

But altcoin like LTC or dash have a great future too, the price is increasing too. Both of them are not pump and dump too, you will get a good amount if you invest in it. IMO old altcoin is better compare to new altcoin, and a new altcoin is just pump and dump coins because they just make it only for miners not really want to get it big
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