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5321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Coppa Italia 2022/2023 Session Discussion Thread ⚽ on: May 23, 2023, 04:35:09 PM
I see that people haven't been talking about the Coppa Italia for a long while on this thread. I just want to refresh the thread a little by sharing my opinion about the final match tomorrow:



Tomorrow night we are going to have the finale in the tournament finally between Fiorentina and Inter.

First of all Inter have been a winner team so far. Because they won the Supercoppa Italiana title by defeating Milan comfortably - 3-0. This must have motivated them to fight harder in other tournaments also. Because right now they are on the verge of doubling the number of titles they have this season. Fiorentina haven't had a much good season but they have reached the finale here. However their opponents haven't been tough ones in general. I mean they were Cremonese, Torino and Sampdoria. Now there is a really big challenge ahead of them.

Truthfully I will be waiting for Inter to win another title in regular time. But I expect a close score like 1-0 or 2-1.
I can't wait to see the competition between these two teams to win the Coppa Italia title in the 22/23 season and so far it can be said that the two teams have performed quite consistently. Not only did they reach the Coppa Italia final, but both Inter and Fiorentina made Italy proud in the European finals. Maybe this will be a very important title for this season and even if both of them are eliminated from other competitions then at least they can win the coppa italy title.

On the other hand, maybe Inter is very much favored to win, especially when they were able to beat strong opponents before and perhaps Florence went quite smoothly until they reached the final round because they didn't encounter any obstacles. If we look at the odds offered by the bookie, Inter will get odds @1.98 and Fiorentina will get odds @3.85, the difference is quite a lot and it looks like Inter will still be the favorite to win the Coppa Italia. But in the final anything can happen, I wouldn't risk more to bet on one of these teams and prefer to bet over 2.25 goals with odds @1.74, it's much easier to choose than thinking who will win.
5322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 23, 2023, 03:57:50 PM
I think Sociedad and Girona will each score three points tonight... I have no doubts about Sociedad, and the odds on their win are not bad 1.4... Bookmakers are giving odds of 3.6 for Girona to win... Girona are one step away from the Eurocups... And playing well in recent matches, which is not the case for Celta...
I am also very confident for these two teams to get full points in this match. Moreover, Real Sociedad and Girona will only play weak teams and I don't think Almeria or Celta Vigo have a chance to win today. Real Sociedad must emphasize the result of an additional 3 points if they don't want to lose their place in the champions league because even though they are 5 points away from Villarreal, each team still has 3 matches left and things can still change. For Girona they will only compete with two other teams namely Bilbao and Sevilla for a place in the conference league. It looks like this will be the second interesting match and if it comes to a draw it will hurt all of their chances a little.
5323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: May 23, 2023, 03:27:03 PM
Having an unbalanced team is the reason for PSG to get bad results, in fact, PSG had good forwards and they had the most expensive players in their team like Neymar, Mbappe, and Messi while in PSG, they need a better coach They had to hire better defender and midfielders I think that's what they are going to do for the next season otherwise they won't have better performance.
PSG management should have been able to consider this before the competition starts next season and they should also look for a coach who has so much experience in Europe. We know Neymar and Messi are likely to leave PSG in the summer and only Mbappe is left as a star player in the PSG squad.

Maybe PSG after the departure of the two players will aim for some other star targets and I think they should do that to make it easier to achieve maximum results in Ligue 1 and especially for the champions league competition. PSG's current situation is still not conducive regarding the problem a few weeks ago and they must refocus on fixing every hole in PSG's body.
5324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: May 23, 2023, 03:11:20 PM
I don't consider Jose Mourinho a great coach, I've said it several times. But Roma are not an easy team to deal with (well before the special one came)
So I wouldn't take Sevilla's victory for granted.

Roma can win..
although Mourinho plays a more defensive game strategy. but that's the way Mourinho used to suppress aggressive teams. but Sevilla has a different type of game. Mourinho will definitely use a different strategy.
the odds offered by bookies are also attractive nowadays. but this gamble will definitely make gamblers confused. Roma is superior to some comments by football observers. I will also support Roma.
Roma have coaches who are very experienced in all European competitions and have also handled several other strong European teams, while Sevilla they are only mentally strong as champions and their history in European league competition is proven by their collection of the most trophies to date.

Humbly, I would also prefer what Mourinho will do in the future and as for the odds I don't think it matters even if it's just slightly different. We know Mourinho's capacity so far and he was often able to get rid of his strong opponents against Roma and Sevilla, maybe luck has run out against Juventus in the previous game.
5325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 23, 2023, 02:46:10 PM
Strongly favored to win but Leverkusen only drew the same 2-2 against Gladbach. Even though Leverkusen had won quickly through the two goals they scored in the first half and I think they will continue to add goals in the second half. But in fact Leverkusen could not add to this advantage and strangely the two goals scored by the Gladbach players were the result of blunders from the Leverkusen goalkeeper and one of his defenders who passed the ball incorrectly. If you look at the highlight video of the match it feels very strange and unnatural, it looks like they did it on purpose. Therefore the victory that should belong to Leverkusen must end by sharing 1 point for these two teams.

Both of the goals that Leverkusen conceded in this match actually were really bad. Both of them were like gifts from them to the opponent. I do not understand how they end up making such mistakes in the defense twice in the same match Sad.

I of course do not think that it was intentional because we do understand what both the goalkeeper and the defender were trying to do in both of the circumstances. But I am not trying to justify what they did. Whatever that was of course shouldn't have happened. This was certainly going to be a very easy 3 points for them if they did not do those two dumb things.

Duke Khan
You also have the same opinion regarding the result of this match and it seems that whether it was intentional or not I think it is still a loss for Leverkusen, moreover they have to maximize every game to be able to fight in the conference league competition next season.

However, the two stupid mistakes were made towards the end of the game and they should have been much more careful when the minutes had shown the match would end. But never mind, we as connoisseurs of football can only be silent with results like that and for Xabi Alonso, he must give a stern warning to his players not to repeat the same mistake.
5326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: May 23, 2023, 02:36:31 PM
100% true! That's the mindgames , each coach should be aware about such strategy to survive and it seems leicester the one going to stay at the premier league with everton at the other side facing the biggest problem of the season after dropping points they give leicester a hope.
Leicester and Everton still have to fight together not to be relegated this season even though in terms of the number of points that already exist, Everton is outside the relegation zone. But it's still not safe enough for Everton if in the last game of the season Everton don't get points. But Leicester also need to win in the last game in order to overtake Everton at the end of this season, but I don't think Leicester can win their last game with West Ham United even though the game takes place at home to Leicester.
Not only are Everton and Leicester fighting for 1 safe place above the relegation zone, but Leeds also has the opportunity to do that. As we know Leicester and Leeds have the same 31 points and leave 1 last match for both of them to determine next season. But even though Leicester and Leeds both won, it seems that it will also end in vain if Everton manage to win their last game. The current situation is quite difficult for these three teams and it seems that we will be surprised by unexpected results, especially if Leeds is the only team that wins from these two competitors.
5327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 23, 2023, 02:13:21 PM


Source: Transfermarkt

Rumors that are currently heating up are reported that Manchester United have started talks with PSG to be able to get Neymar in the summer. The negotiation process is ongoing and Manchester United wants Neymar on loan, but PSG want a permanent purchase of Neymar.

Obviously this was unexpected, I thought PSG wanted to keep Neymar and they wanted to sell him, but Manchester United seems to be considering the offer. Neymar's market value is currently at 70 million euros and it is possible that with PSG's wishes, Manchester United could get a lower price than the current market value.
5328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 23, 2023, 02:02:29 PM
There is Barcelona again tonight with an odd near 2 playing away against Valladolid,this would never happen in normal conditions as the max odd Barcelona would have in normal conditions is 1.50 to 1.55 most likely but since they are already Champions and they play for nothing,also they played against Real Sociedad where they lost at home it is very dangerous to bet on such game and as such the best bet would be to not bet at all or to play with goals over 2.5 or both teams to score,or even better to be bold go and play Valladolid draw no bet,I will try this bet personally as I saw a disastrous Barcelona against Sociedad.I might lose this bet I know as betting against Barcelona in most of the times is suicide but I will only bet very little money on this event.
I think it's quite natural for the dealer to give these odds to Barcelona and maybe the previous defeat against Real Sociedad is not a reference, but if Barcelona have already won La Liga then that can be a definite reference why the dealer gives these odds.

Apart from all that, this is indeed a quite risky match if you bet on Barcelona winning, but I have another option that we can use, namely betting the handicap (-0.25) for Barcelona winning, even if the result is a draw we will not lose in full. But for a bet the result of over 2.5 sounds pretty good, but with Barcelona not being serious it's likely that this will be a result of under 2.5 goals. Those are my predictions for this match.
5329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 23, 2023, 01:44:50 PM
Manchester City will take their time to win this match which after they will go and lift the FA cup again.
Manchester City are resting key players in their team already ahead of their Champions League game. In their last premier league game against Chelsea they rested some key players and as a result of that, they did not win the game as expected with many goals as they usually do. Inter Milan will be practicing seriously too for this game, and this game can only be won for them with the help of tactics from the coache. Manchester City have played difficult games before qualification for the finals, so they know how to deal with pressure. There will be no second leg, so both teams will play really well in the time they have.
The Manchester City bench against Chelsea was filled with players worth more than 500 million euros, it was really scary to see these players on the sidelines. Even so, Chelsea still couldn't beat Manchester City, who appeared with a starting line-up containing second-tier players.

It can be seen that Inter were also not that serious against Napoli in last week's match in the domestic league. Inter preferred to stay and didn't want to tire their players too much. The match is still long enough for these two teams to reach the champions league final and I hope both teams appear with their core players, especially avoiding injury is also very necessary before that day arrives.
5330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 23, 2023, 01:07:51 PM
Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

This is of course some real corruption.  I bet the judge has been paid to make a decision like this.  and why do they have to take away 10 points from Juventus? ? they could just find money and punish them that way. This is some bullshit going on ! !

I really do not think the players will actually want to stay in Juventus after what has happened this season. what is the point of staying in a team which is not going to play in the Champions League even after finishing in the second position?  But probably that's what those people who made this decision actually want.
Indeed, I am quite upset to hear this and it seems that even though Juventus has made a mistake regarding the financial scandal, the points deduction should not have been made towards the end of the season. We know very well the feelings of the Juventus players here, they are certainly very angry, disappointed and do not accept this decision.

But we really don't know what happened there and I think even though Juventus have dropped so far in the standings, at least they still have a chance in the last two matches to determine their fate playing in European competition and even if they can't deal with the current turmoil, I hope they can immediately pick themselves up and do everything next season again.
5331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: May 22, 2023, 09:05:44 PM
It's 45mins into the game already and both teams are yet to score a goal. Newcastle are dominating the game and creating good chances but have not been able to find the back of the net. It is half time now and we hope to see how much impact the half time talks will have in this game. I'm expecting a more entertaining second half with at least 2 goals to come.
The match was over and the score ended in a 0-0 draw for both teams. Actually, I really hope that Newcastle can win this match and at the same time close the season in 3rd place in the standings. But it doesn't seem to be going well for them and one additional point takes the total to 70 points in the standings for Newcastle.

For Manchester United this is a great opportunity to shift Newcastle in 3rd place in the standings and with the remaining two matches that Manchester United have it seems they have the opportunity to do just that. For Leicester they still have hope in one game remaining next week and if they manage to win then they still have a chance to appear in the EPL next season, but with a note that Everton have to lose.
5332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 22, 2023, 07:27:08 PM
Strongly favored to win but Leverkusen only drew the same 2-2 against Gladbach. Even though Leverkusen had won quickly through the two goals they scored in the first half and I think they will continue to add goals in the second half. But in fact Leverkusen could not add to this advantage and strangely the two goals scored by the Gladbach players were the result of blunders from the Leverkusen goalkeeper and one of his defenders who passed the ball incorrectly. If you look at the highlight video of the match it feels very strange and unnatural, it looks like they did it on purpose. Therefore the victory that should belong to Leverkusen must end by sharing 1 point for these two teams.
5333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 22, 2023, 06:39:11 PM
Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845
5334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 22, 2023, 06:27:40 PM
Graham Potter is the worst coach Chelsea ever had, I get wonder too why the owner of Chelsea would pick him to manage Chelsea.  I think from Chelsea problem is just more than a problem of coach , it seems apart from coach their its like their is someone else interfering with the management of the team.

Frank Lampard is the worst coach Chelsea ever hired. They did a good job sacking Potter, but they made the decision worst by hiring Lampard. If Lampard had come any earlier Chelsea will be battling relegation by now. Potter was bad, but Lampard is way worst.
The problem of Chelsea is not only the coach but the coach is a very big problem. He has a lot of players at his disposal and even if he cant use them to compete for the league, they should be in the Europa league spot at least.
it seems the management of Chelsea don't know what they're doing. Signing every available player is not good business, but what do I know.
It's true that Chelsea's management system was so bad in my opinion after being left by the previous owner Roman Abramovich. But the unexpected thing was to summon two mediocre coaches after they sacked Thomas Tuchel midway through last season. It seems that from the Chelsea side they were too hasty and maybe also wanted to be considered smart in choosing a coach, but unfortunately both Potter and Lampard are the same people who have brought Chelsea far from good results. Now Chelsea have a new coach for next season, namely Pochettino and it seems that he is more suitable to handle Chelsea than the previous two coaches.
5335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 22, 2023, 06:02:32 PM
After the first half of the game ended with a 1 goal advantage for Salernitana, it wasn't long before the second half started and both teams heated up immediately. Roma immediately caught up through a goal scored by El Shaarawy in the 48th minute, but Salernitana did not just sit idly by they immediately turned things around through their second goal scored by Boulaye Dia in the 54th minute. the Salernitana players and this one goal advantage could be Salernitana's advantage away from home and if Roma lose their chances of playing in European competition are getting slimmer.
5336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: May 22, 2023, 05:52:55 PM
Maybe if they want to maintain the 3rd position in the standings it is very certain for Newcastle. Moreover, even if Newcastle loses this match they will not lose their place for the champions league next season because there are no other competitors besides Manchester United. But it is indeed an easy bet to make money and the @1.52 odds for Newcastle are very reasonable if we want to bet on a Newcastle win. Leicester's chances of being in the EPL next season are indeed very slim but if they can beat Newcastle in this match their chance will be determined through the next match against West Ham.
The chances of Liverpool to get a place for Champions League are very weak and Newcastle are pretty much safe. Getting the third rank in EPL will be a great achievement for this team.
Newcastle is one of the best teams in EPL this season. This team wasn't good previously and improved a lot. I expect Newcastle to win today
Liverpool's chance to appear in the champions league is gone and they must be quite satisfied to appear in the European league next season. Last week Liverpool lost their only chance against Aston Villa and the match ended in a draw which eroded their chance of securing a spot in the champions league. Now Liverpool has only one game left against Southampton and with 3 points from Manchester United or Newcastle it will not be enough to shift their current position because both have two matches remaining. Back to Newcastle's match against Leicester, it was only fitting that Newcastle could win this match, but they shouldn't underestimate Leicester even though it was a home game. At least Newcastle must win with a difference of 2 goals to get 3 additional points.
5337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: May 22, 2023, 05:29:33 PM
Nice failed to unseat Clemont in the standings after only a goalless draw against Touluse. Of course, this is an advantage for Toulouse, who can at least get 1 point away from home, while Nice is at a disadvantage because they were actually able to shift Clemont's position at the same time they lost to Brest. For Toulouse, it has been confirmed that their position is safe from the relegation zone this season and with two games remaining they will not be relegated even though they have lost. Nice actually doesn't have any targets other than to be able to return to Ligue 1 next season and at least they are in a pretty good position at the moment.
5338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 22, 2023, 04:55:31 PM
Saying "it should be" is probably not quite right unless you refer to whether they deserve it or not. But even from that perspective, if Inter wins the final they also deserved it in a way unless there are really bad and unjust circumstances leading to success. I don't really have an idea right now how that game will go between Manchester City and Inter. Will Inter play 90% defense and 10% attack? Or am I getting totally wrong now and Inter will play much more offensive than many would think? I do expect a typical Italian defensive game, but it is quite possible that Inter will be very eager to push their counter attack potential to the limit. For everyone watching the game that would be best.

Actually, I already feel that there will be an uneven match in the final.  That's according to the theory I've seen in Man City's statistics. I'm guessing Inter will have trouble on the ball, and they will play half the pitch. Man City will try to lock up Inter. Perhaps the best way for Inter is to play defense and rely on counter-attacks. Many bettors may choose Inter to lose, but Inter's opportunities are not exhausted. Especially if Man City players underestimate Inter because many bookmakers choose Man City to win.
I agree with you in saying the final match was unequal. I don't mean to belittle Inter Milan, but the statistics say this, so if you think realistically then we know who will be the winner in this match, but that's if we compare the statistics of the two clubs that will compete. However, if we consider other things such as the luck factor, for example, obviously I cannot say for sure who will be the lucky club. External factors such as luck cannot be separated from football, because they always go hand in hand in every game.
Talking about luck will always be there, for example, Manchester City continues to attack and keeps making chances but they fail to score goals, while maybe Inter very rarely attack and only once do they counter attack Inter immediately score goals, well maybe that's one of luck. which I think could turn an edge into a failure.

But what is clear is that there are still many unexpected surprises, such as players who are injured or a red card that one of the players gets is also a fortune for each team. Maybe we will see in layman's eyes that Manchester City will definitely win the Champions League title but Inter with all the unexpected things can turn that around.
5339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 22, 2023, 04:31:28 PM
In today's Spanish League match, Sevilla vs Real Betis is a tough game between these two teams. The players of both teams tried hard to score goals from the first to the end of the game but could not score any goals. Sevilla performed very well in this match. Today's match is a draw.  I didn't think it would happen. I bet some money in support of Real Betis in this match. I thought maybe Real Betis will win today. But Real Betis team player J. Miranda got 1 red cards in 87 minutes.
The match between the two teams was quite even, it's just that Sevilla had more chances to win with 4 shots on target and Real Betis did not manage to record a single shot on target in that match. Maybe this is a pretty good result for both teams, especially for Real Betis who are quite fortunate to be able to bring home 1 additional point in this match.

Your bet is good enough, it's just that you were unlucky with Real Betis' situation away from home and the red card in the last minute added to Real Betis' losses. With the remaining matches remaining, the two teams are still trying to finish in the best place, especially for Real Betis they have to secure a place in the European league next season so that Bilbao will feel futile even though they still have the opportunity to shift Real Betis' position with 3 matches.
5340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: May 22, 2023, 04:08:59 PM
I think that Roma's strategy is going to be play balanced first. I don't expect an all-out-attack strategy from them as it would be a big risk in the finale. It isn't even Mourinho's style either unless they face a much weaker opponent. Sevilla are like the king around here so Roma will need to keep things as balanced as possible. If they give the lead to Sevilla then their job can be much more difficult.

Because Sevilla are also good at keeping their advantage in the Europa League just as Roma. Until Roma get ahead by score I don't expect any defensive game plan from Mourinho. Maybe he parked the bus against Leverkusen in the rematch but it was to keep the score advantage until the end. They would aim the same thing here most probably.

Sevilla are favoured by the odds for now but the margin is a really slight one.
Surely Mourinho will not be too rash in emphasizing his strategy, we know he is very well known as a bus parking expert or completely defending to get a very good result. Maybe I quite agree that Mourinho will balance both sides either attacking or defending and if they have the opportunity to score even if it comes only once then they will score it.

After that it was a tough job for Xabi Alonso to penetrate the Roma defense because Mourinho would definitely order all of his players to defend rather than attack. Actually sevilla's chances of winning are as high as Rome if we look at the odds offered by the bookie but with all the uncertainty that Rome has then I would prefer to bet the handicap for Rome's advantage.
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