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5361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BANKMAN-FRIED PANIC GAMBLES TO REPAY DEBT on: December 25, 2022, 08:13:35 AM
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Sam Bankman-Fried is alleged to have lost $100M of FTX’s money at online casinos. It is, however, not the first time Bankman-Fried has lost funds either. The collapse of Terra/Luna in May caused massive losses for Sam’s Alameda Research Fund. In hopes of winning back some of the losses, it appears that Sam hit the blackjack floor with FTX money. Unfortunately, he dug the hole deeper. According to Nansen Research, he lost  $100 million in Ethereum and USDT playing at crypto casinos like Stake, Bitcasino, and others. The dots begin to join and Binance’s unveiling of the misappropriation of customer funds now seems to make sense.]Sam Bankman-Fried is alleged to have lost $100M of FTX’s money at online casinos. It is, however, not the first time Bankman-Fried has lost funds either. The collapse of Terra/Luna in May caused massive losses for Sam’s Alameda Research Fund. In hopes of winning back some of the losses, it appears that Sam hit the blackjack floor with FTX money. Unfortunately, he dug the hole deeper. According to Nansen Research, he lost  $100 million in Ethereum and USDT playing at crypto casinos like Stake, Bitcasino, and others. The dots begin to join and Binance’s unveiling of the misappropriation of customer funds now seems to make sense.

How in the world did SBF decide that gambling was the best course of action for recovering the funds? It seems to me that he has terrible friends around him.  Have you ever thought of gambling as way to recover your funds and pay your debts? Does this look like a case of compulsive gambling?

Source: https://www.pokcas.com/sam-bankman-fried-and-ftx-bankruptcy/
I think this news is not real.
it is highly unlikely that SBF forced Gamblers to double his money and pay off all his debts. even though on the other hand SBF is too busy with its work on FTX which is very complicated and makes its day busy taking care of all these events. so I don't think SBF has time to gamble. if that were indeed the case, it would be impossible for SBF to have carelessly gambled such a large amount on that gamble.


but for me doubling money in gambling is a very bad move. when a person is in debt and gambles in hopes of winning big to pay off the debt, it looks pretty funny.
gambling is just a luxury entertainment without the expectation of victory and cannot be used as a source of multiplying money.
5362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If your friend would tell you this... on: December 25, 2022, 06:51:02 AM
I prefer to bet on roulette and baccarat to double the money you hold.
but for roulette I prefer the dozen column which has a bigger chance than choosing 10 numbers. because we can see the statistics on the previous 500 game rounds and we have a great opportunity after seeing these statistics.
well even though the dozen column only has a 3x multiplication but the chance of winning is greater.
but in roulette you have to be patient to double your wins because if you are too greedy you will sometimes lose.
stop for a while and when the time is right do max bet
5363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Distortion Pattern on: December 25, 2022, 06:05:43 AM
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3. Gambling Distortion Pattern III

Next is a picture of the third gambling pattern of course when you first make a deposit you get a total win, but here the problem is that you lose control and are too confident that the victory you just got is just the beginning and feel confident that there will still be many wins ahead. Conditions like this push you into a trap that motivates you mentally to continue to have big ambitions. As a result, the wins are getting smaller, little by little loss but still accompanied by uncontrollable ambition, finally, all the balances owned are lost.


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what I have experienced and destroyed me is in this third pattern. because in the past, every time I deposited funds into the gambling platform, I always won large amounts of gambling. without me realizing that the victory was the beginning of the downfall when I started to be greedy to win more and when I continued to bet I lost the first time and I became emotional chasing defeat by increasing the amount of my bet and in the end I lost more and my funds finished. after that I became even more stupid when I chased defeat, always made a deposit and always lost.
from what happened in my past, this will be the best lesson for me if gambling is just entertainment, you don't need to hope for victory and you don't need to be greedy if you don't want to break. and if you get a big win or max win it's just a bonus and immediately leave the gamble and withdraw the winnings.
5364  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: bagaimana nasib nft untuk jangka panjang sebagai tempat berinvestasi? on: December 24, 2022, 10:02:59 PM
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Jadi apakah ada saran untuk saya yang bisa dibilang telat untuk memulai menjual NFT musik disana? Lebih baik ditinggalkan ataukah diteruskan? Jika diteruskan, apakah ada trik sederhana yang bisa diterapkan untuk bisa setidaknya dilihat/didengar banyak orang?
walaupun telat replynya tapi saya harap bisa memberi opini.
percaya atau tidak percaya NFT saat ini sudah habis hypenya dan seperti gak ada lagi tempat untuk NFT. saya gak menjelekan NFT tapi pada kenyataannya sekarang NFT seperti sudah tidak ada nilainya lagi berbeda waktu hype dan bullish tahun kemarin.
walaupun agan mau nerusin, itupun seperti 10%:90% gan karena NFT yang mempunyai proyek dan kejelasan tentang proyeknya pun hanya mempunyai nilai rendah apalagi seperti kita yang hanya mint dengan harapan di beli orang lain.
kalau waktu hype dulu iya iya aja seperti beberapa NFT yang saya dapat dari bounty jaman 2017 waktu hype harga per NFT sampai 5 eth itupun waktu eth di angka ±$4000.

yah saran buat agan lebih baik mencari peluang pada sesuatu yang akan datang dan akan hype di bullish selanjutnya daripada membuang waktu pada NFT.
5365  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Disaat Crypto Winter begini, Apa yang kalian lakukan? on: December 24, 2022, 09:00:44 PM
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Ga ada yang salah dengan itu om, pola pikir dan bertindak seseorang itu didasari oleh apa yang mereka alami. kebetulan saya juga termasuk orang yang perlahan mulai nyicil dikit dikit, takut ketinggalan kreta nanti  Grin
walaupun nantinya masih akan ada bottom yang kemungkinan masih akan terjadi, tidak ada salahnya untuk memulai dari sekarang. tapi perlu di ingat jangan salah pilih. hehe
lagian, nanti walaupun masih ada harga bottom kita juga gak akan rugi kok kalau ngumpulinnya koin atau altcoin yang tepat. karena nantinya juga akan ada bullish setelah halving dan pastinya kita juga akan mendapatkan untung.
tapi kembali lagi ke pribadi masing masing yang pasti tetap DYOR.


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Padahal investasi sendiri dapat di katakan termasuk dalam menabung dengan waktu jangka panjang dan membutuhkan waktu yang tidak singkat untuk dapat mengambil keuntungan dari tabungan tersebut.
maaf gan sebelumnya untuk soal investasi / menabung itu tergantung pada pribadi masing masing dan tidak ada patokan untuk jangka panjang maupun jangka pendek. jika seseorang yang ingin mendapatkan keuntungan yang lebih cepat biasanya mereka akan melakukan investasi jangka pendek.
tapi jika ingin mendapatkan keuntungan yang lebih besar beberapa orang akan lebih memilih untuk invest jangka panjang.
seperti yang tertulis pada judul OP. ketika situasi seperti ini, biasanya investor akan lebih memilih jangka panjang daripada jangka pendek. karena situasi seperti ini adalah diskon besar untuk semua crypto dengan harga yang jauh sangat murah.

jadi kesimpulannya yang pasti, mau jangka panjang atau pendek itu kembali pada pribadi masing masing gan mereka mempunyai strategi yang berbeda beda.
5366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is crypto staking? Is staking worth it? on: December 24, 2022, 08:06:53 PM
Staking depends on the person's holdings, if a user has a huge amount of holdings and he still wants to earn through these holdings then staking will be a good choice for him, because through staking he can earn a lot, as you mentioned the benefits of the staking in the upper section. And mostly staking could be beneficial at larger scales.
Staking does not have to use a large amount to get profit, using a small amount will also be profitable if staking on the right coin and in the long term.
for now staking on a reputable coin will be very profitable in the bullish times to come.
because at this time all crypto prices are decreasing or cheap and we always earn every day and we collect it until the bullish arrives and that's when we get the profit.
but keep in mind Staking on the right coin and do your own research before starting Staking.
5367  Economy / Gambling / Re: making 500-1000usd daily in poker must read i need a partner! on: December 24, 2022, 07:24:23 PM
i have a poker way to make money i will show u it fully if we can work together, not alot of money is needed , why i need money? because i was in debt im making but small amounts we can scal this up i would be fully transparent lets make this money if ure interested send me your discord
if indeed you have a way of playing poker and making a little profit, you better just play alone and make a little profit to repay your debt. instead you are looking for someone who is willing to give you capital to gamble and in the end you will leave after losing again. stupid thing, no one will believe about what you write.
5368  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Info] List Bounty Campaign Yang Exchangeable [Ter-update] on: December 24, 2022, 06:06:40 PM

[BOUNTY] 2Spice - Protokol Defi Merevolusi Ruang Crypto __[w/ESCROW]


Manajer Bounty: julerz12
Alokasi Bounty Pool: $10.000
Durasi Bounty : 5 Week
Audit : https://github.com/ContractWolf/smart-contract-audits/blob/main/ContractWolf_Audit_2Spice.pdf
RoadMap: https://2spice.link/roadmap/#
Exchange Buy and Sell: Pancakeswap
Alokasi Campaign:
1. Video 20%
2. Article 20%
3. Twitter 30%
4. Telegram & Discord 10%
5. Reddit 5%
6. Signature 15%




Untuk bounty ini sepertinya di cancel. Lebih jelasnya bisa di cek di threadnya langsung.

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[EDIT]12/18/22
2Spice Bounty Campaign will be closed. The project team has problems with their token contract and cannot proceed with the bounty campaign.

The official announcement can be found here: https://t.me/spice_channe/31564

I suggest stopping all bounty activities regarding 2Spice. All current signature campaign participants are welcome to transfer to the other campaign under my management with a signature campaign category.

Again, this decision came directly from the dev team. Not mine.
5369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Elon Musk posted Santa Twitter Doge on Chrismast day? on: December 24, 2022, 05:56:36 PM
won't. I think that at this time Elon musk is getting fed up with Dogecoin because several times he tried to push the price to increase, but his efforts were in vain.
I also will never care about anything Elon Musk says on Twitter. because making Elon musk as a motivator for investment is not good.
but sometimes no matter what Elon musk says, some people still believe that there will be an increase in the price of Dogecoin.
5370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Doge can it go 1$ on: December 24, 2022, 02:24:42 PM
it's hard to reach $1 on the grounds that the meme coin hype is over. maybe some people still believe that the next bullish Doge can reach $ 1 in the hope that Elon musk will help him again. whereas usually every time a bullish arrives there will always be new hype about crypto which will later raise the prices of several other coins to become very expensive and rival the Doge price.
but we don't know what will actually happen in a few more years. let's see.
5371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: This is how altcoins performed in 2022 on: December 24, 2022, 01:04:52 PM
this year has had a bearish run this year in the past and there will always be deep dips in the price when the bulls leave and the market is ruled by the bears.
it's no wonder that all investors are currently competing to buy and collect their assets, from bitcoin to altcoins.
from the current price decline it's time for us to start buying and filling our wallets with some coins and of course the most important bitcoin and some altcoins that have good potential in the future when the bulls arrive.
5372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SBF released, Will Solana ($SOL) come back? on: December 24, 2022, 09:40:13 AM
what I know right now is that Solana is experiencing 2 big problems that come together and you have to be stronger to face them if you don't want to die.
The first problem Solana has to face is the current bearish season.
and the second and most important problem is the impact of FTX dumping all SOL coins and Alameda also still holding a large amount of SOL.
I think the Solana development team must work hard to accommodate these two problems and must have another plan in case one day there is a disposal of the SOL held by Alameda so that SOL will survive even though the price is very low.
but I'm sure the Solana team has prepared everything to fight this situation and will probably recover when the next bullish comes.
5373  Economy / Gambling / Re: Punt.com | Win $100,000! 🔥💰 | Premium Crypto Casino | Instant Withdrawals! ✅ on: December 24, 2022, 08:42:13 AM
$1500 per week is like $215 per day only and I do even believe low bankroll gambler can achieve it even with $5-10 starting bankroll. This makes me wonder how much you can afford to lose in gambling if you consider that wagering $200+ per day is very high. Does it mean that spending $5-10 also very high for you guys? If it is still very high, so how much you can afford to spend in single gambling session?

I also do not dare to place bets above 50$ in a single game, I prefer to place bets from 1$ to 50$ depending on the game I am betting on and the strategy, for example if I put 10$ then in each game I will I bet 1$ and I let the bankroll grow and after I make a profit of 10$ and I have 20$ I start making bets of 2$ in each game, and so on, because I play for fun, but when whales fall, they they can afford to bet 1500$, even because they have a lot of bitcoins, considering that the price of bitcoin is at 16000$ so making bets of 1500$ in each game is not something risky

but for people who don't have a lot of money, they only have something like 4000$ in their bankroll or less, making a bet of 1500$ in just one game I consider it very risky, because if the person bets 1500$ and loses, then bets 1500 $ and loses so that person will only be left with 1000$ and they will have a greater chance of losing everything and will be bankrupt, then they will have to look for more money to return to deposit in the casino to be able to continue playing

You get it wrong, we are discussing about wager for the whole week, not wager in single bet. The main topic above is about the requirement to claim the bonus code posted in punt's telegram channel, where players who have wagered $1500 in the last 7 days can claim the code. Wagering $1500 can be achieved by betting $0.1-0.2 per bet or even less but for sure someone need to make ten thousand bets or more in order to achieve $1500 wager.


more precisely $1500 total bet to be able to claim the bonus from Punt.
a total bet of $ 1500 is not difficult by betting $ 0.1-$ 1 and patiently holding on to betting on one game that we are good at.
when you get a slightly bigger win, increase the bet to $ 2- $ 3 and do it regularly until the total bet reaches $ 1500.
but back to each other because every gambler is greedy and impatient to want to instantly get the bonus and betting without patience causes the loss of money but the total bet does not reach the specified limit.
5374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Binance Coin losing its Value, What will happen to Public Funds on: December 24, 2022, 07:22:53 AM
Hello Guys just checking BNB coin, losing the support, and investors and people are predicting it may further fall, as Binance CZ is solely relying on BNB , what will happen if

1) BNB kept losing its value

2) Till How much value (you think) that BNB can sustain

3) What will happen to public funds, will there be liquidity issue if BNB falls to a certain level

4) What will be your way to save yourself if anything goes bad..

Please share your opinions ...
we all never know what will happen to BNB in the future. but what i know right now is Binance is trending FUD out there and some investors are afraid to invest in BNB causing the price to drop.
and we all know that Binance (BNB) has been around for a long time and they have a great community and team that will help fight that FUD.
but if an accident happens to Binance and customer funds, liquidity is likely to occur.
there is no other way than to keep your funds in any centralized exchange. it would be better if we keep our funds in our own cold wallet.
5375  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: December 24, 2022, 06:30:42 AM

Although you have a valid point if we look at it from betting perspective but sometimes we bet just to have FUN and not the profits.
I do it sometimes just to see if I win the bet and ignore the odds. In such cases we can bet with extremely small amounts which are obviously affordable to lose.


I do the same, I only place small bets but it always gives me some thrill and excitement and it makes the games a lot more fun to watch when you place a bet on it. You won't become rich or loose a lot of money when you place these small bets so it is indeed just for fun!
but from just having fun at gambling sometimes our minds turn into emotional ones that cannot be controlled and in the end only to chase defeat.


like what I did when betting at FreeBitco.in at first it was just for fun but in reality I got emotional when I lost and chased the loss.
yes, in the end I won at FreeBitco.in but it took a long time to get the win.
definitely don't gamble when you're in a bad mood. it will turn fun into emotional.a
5376  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎁XMAS PARTY for $1 200 000| Win Mercedes-Benz G-Class & Crypto😎 on: December 24, 2022, 05:23:17 AM
hello everyone,
I am very happy to see this project. I went to the website and read everything that made me believe it more. But I have no idea to work here and don't know how to get bonus there. There are many senior people here who know everything about this site. Can they help me to work on this site?
What bonus are you referring to? If it's talking about the Christmas event then it should be in the terms and conditions section regarding how to get the bonus, but of the many bonuses they promise, of course all of them will require players to deposit and also play, nothing is free except freebox where you can get Bitcoin every hours after solving the captcha, or enter a funfury competition.
Thank you for help me .I want to know more about it.
Can I earn free bitcoins here or do I have to pay my own money and then earn bitcoins by betting?
Where can I withdraw my earning bitcoins from there?
 Is there any withdrawal limit?
Betfury.io is provided for gambling not for free bitcoin generators.
as @Strongkored said if that's what you mean (free) as a bonus you have to make a deposit and bet there according to the terms and conditions set by Betfury.
Regarding withdrawal limits, of course each platform has withdrawal limits that have been set in such a way as possible. so if you want to withdraw your funds or your bitcoin there, KYC will be required to increase the withdrawal limit
5377  Other / Archival / Re: who played here? on: December 24, 2022, 04:35:31 AM
Has anyone played at this casino www.dexterbet.com ? Share reviews about them who have dealt with them or maybe someone knows a good casino with identical odds to their sportbook. Thank

I never knew about this gambling. but after I read comments from several members on this forum they also never saw the gambling you mentioned.
after that I was curious and try to see here



It seems that this gambling platform was new recently, so everyone here also didn't know about this gambling before.
it is better to do your own research before putting your funds into any of the gambling platforms.
We've got so many trusted platforms. What have been suggested isn't known by majority of the community members. This means the platform is launched recently and hadn't promoted through our forum. We could see a big list of gambling sites getting into existence regularly, and very few provide trustworthy service. So, its good to do the best research before making deposits for gambling.
If gamblers want to do their own research before depositing funds into a gambling platform, it's actually quite easy, like looking at the gambling reviews from AskGambler that have been provided to see which gambling platforms have a good reputation.
so that novice gamblers or gamblers who don't know this forum can research themselves there.
because some gamblers out there also don't fully know this forum so they don't know about gambling platforms that have a good reputation here.
5378  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: December 24, 2022, 03:17:02 AM

Maybe it is possible to claim the bonus for the first few days, further as the wager requirement keeps increasing the same could make us end up losing. When we play with certain wager to be reached, it is possible to reach without losing. When we think, why don't we just try to win the $25 we'll start losing and wagering won't be successful. I've emptied my wallet in such a way.

We have our own way how to complete the wagering requirements although it increases every day for example for today it will be $15k
Therefore $2k wager is needed every day and what makes me curious is on the last day how many codes are provided
2 days ago total 12 codes so maybe on the last day there will be 25 codes ?  Roll Eyes
it's not so difficult to reach a 2k bet, just play patiently and stick to one game at gambling. but sometimes a person has a different mind.
anyway it seems that on Christmas Eve there will be something special and I think it's not just 25 maybe there will be more and there will be more total prizes
5379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Polygon (MATIC) to $20? on: December 23, 2022, 07:15:50 PM
yes , that is what I also said from above that it may get to that but will never this soon , because the market and even Bitcoin is experiencing that bad so how come that Matic will take place on that matter.

we can deal with good potential or Polygon and no doubt it has though maybe in the next 5 years?
The next 5 years could happen, but to get to the price of $20 I think it is very difficult, unless matic can burn half of their supley, we just wait what if the bull market happens later
if we look at ATH $ 2.92 then even if later the bull market comes or after the halving period, it is likely that it will be achieved only 3x from ATH and it is very difficult to reach $ 20 and there is very little chance that it will happen.
but I agree with friends above, there are many options that Matic can do to achieve that. apart from the effect of increasing Bitcoin, of course, as you said, by burning some of the existing supply, or there are other innovations.
it is possible that if it continues to survive it could be that after the next halving period it will be fulfilled so maybe around 2028 and not in the next 5 years.
to reach that $20 price actually depended on the Polygon development team.
if the dev team is able to come up with something that can push up the price of Polygon when the bullish time comes, I think it could happen.
as some people said above by burning a portion of the supply and after that it was supported by the bulls arriving and being pushed by the increasing price of bitcoin.
5380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Want to invest on: December 23, 2022, 06:10:23 PM
Better not, you need to do your own research and analysis in finding the right way with your investment, following other's strategy might lead you to lose your money, they have sets of plan just in case the market will not favor the position that they have while you don't have anything and if fear will dominated you, the chance that you will sell your holdings during the bear market and unable to recover once the market start to bounce back.
because every investor has different goals and has a different strategy.
So if someone wants to invest in coins or altcoins that are just following other people's words, that would be like suicide.
because what other investors are planning we will never know and they have a way to cover losses when an accident occurs to the coins they hold.
Meanwhile, if we follow other investors, we will definitely be confused about what to do when the coin we hold that is the same as another investor crashes and we will only lose.
so it's really not recommended to invest in following other people.
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