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541  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 13, 2014, 02:42:17 AM

How to access your API?

Our Trading API and Market data API doc can be found at https://www.lakebtc.com/s/api?locale=en

542  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 13, 2014, 02:40:54 AM

does I need to pay any fee for deposit or withdrawal?

Deposit is free. Withdrawal is 0.1 - 0.5%. For details please refer to https://www.lakebtc.com/s/fees?locale=en

All fees are subject to change Smiley
543  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 13, 2014, 02:38:45 AM
okay, have completed the verification just now login.

In addition to the email, do you have a customer service phone on LakeBTC exchange??

Good to know.

Customer support can be reached by email, Facebook, twitter.

Currently, support over telephone is in Chinese Mandarin only.

544  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 13, 2014, 02:36:03 AM
How to withdrawals with Ripple? sounds great.
Should I buy any Ripple on your exchange?

Please refer to https://www.lakebtc.com/p/2284?locale=en

Basically, you need

Add trust to LakeBTC Ripple gateway, and submit a USD withdrawal request.

No you do not need to buy any XRP.
545  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 12, 2014, 04:24:25 PM


click "Buy Bitcoin" button in the menu, then choose "CNY". place an order and enjoy commission free trade during the promotional period.

 Smiley

This promotion is going to change by June 30 so enjoy it while you can.  Smiley
546  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 12, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
does an account can exist the USD and RMB at the same time ?
I deposited 0.965 btc,  and didn't pay attention that I was in RMB mode, the site does not give me any warning

oh, no..
I also give you support e-mail.  How can I retrieve a loss ?

you can simply place a buy order with CNY (or RMB).

as a matter of fact, CNY trading fee is 0% during our promotional period.

But BTC/USD and BTC/CNY is quite different!!

I have already sold my bitcoin with 660 CNY  Embarrassed  How can I buy back even half my bitcoin with that CNY?

click "Buy Bitcoin" button in the menu, then choose "CNY". place an order and enjoy commission free trade during the promotional period.

 Smiley
547  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 12, 2014, 03:46:20 PM
How long will it take ID get verified in normal?

It's been 4 days. The email sent yesterday did not return, Get back here?

Usually within 1 business day.

4-day is not likely. Please check again or contact us. Customer support will be happy to assist you.

 Smiley
548  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 12, 2014, 08:38:43 AM
can you also comment around the SEPA withdrawals?

Currently withdrawals via bank wire and Ripple are supported.

We are actively looking for banking and payment processing partners around the world. Stay tuned Smiley

549  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 12, 2014, 08:37:21 AM
I heard chinese exchanges are free, deposit, trading and withdrawal charge are all 0, really?

LakeBTC.com charges no fee for deposits, 0.1 - 0.5% for trading, and 0.1 - 0.5% for withdrawals.

Details can be found at https://www.lakebtc.com/s/fees?locale=en
550  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: https://vip.btcchina.com/ on: June 12, 2014, 07:05:15 AM
LakeBTC is better.

Just open an account ,you can begin the dual currency bitcoin trading of RMB and USD.

and more, you can see:  https://www.lakebtc.com/s/help?locale=en
any problem about LakeBTC can be replyed  in this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=607119.0
551  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 你对比特币的信心来自哪里? on: June 12, 2014, 06:31:11 AM
来自知乎




哦,指的是文章来自知乎。。。。。。


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你对比特币的信心来自哪里?
难道是投了很多钱进去,身份翻了几倍,你说我能没信心吗?

话归正题,哈耶克之后,米塞斯,罗斯巴德,门格尔也进入了视线。我进入了这样一个在多领域颇有建树的社会科学的殿堂——名副其实的经济学帝国主义。尽管奥地利学派因此被一些人视为在经济学领域的无能。这多少是拜如今更吸引人的是应用经济学层面的东西所赐。在这个大环境下,对货币本质的追问会显得有些多余。于是在这个狭隘的宏观经济学领域内自然没有用武之地。许多对于奥地利学派理论性研究的抨击只是形式上看似是一种「客观事实」,但其本质明明就是另一种「错误的理论性研究」,我想做计量的朋友可能对此更有印象,当然足不足与外人道就是每个人自己的事情了。关于这个话题以后会提。

比特币的出现给奥派理论作了一个生动的现实注脚,印证了哈耶克的构想完全是超前且具备可操作性的——就像他对欧元的判断一样。如同金德尔伯格在金融危机史中讨论过的那样,无论以何种特定流动资产的形式将「货币」定义下来,货币化都将在该定义之外的地方进一步发生。如果从这个角度来看,私人货币极可能是经济与技术发展的必然产物,无论我们观念上接受与否,只要达到一定条件它自然而然地会在市场某个地方以某种形式冒出来。 当然,攻击者们会迅速将焦点转向货币本质这个话题上,「投机」「泡沫」「羊群效应」「无知」之类的帽子又扣在比特币持有者身上。丝毫不顾忌这个话题在门格尔时代就已经有了定调。

比特币符合奥派的理想,也符合我个人一以贯之的情感取向,在这个央行的无限扩表权大量都变成了回流央行变为超储的窖藏资金,逼出去又变成了准财政融资,货币需求函数失灵的年代。它出生,成长,经历市场的喧嚣与落寞。这一切怎能不令人为之欣喜若狂?因为比特币,讨论私人货币的私人货币的流通安排、竞争体系、价值确定、控制可能性、币值稳定性、货币政策、汇率纪律、财政安排也就不再是空中楼阁。

什么是信心?这就是信心。

畅读版:https://www.lakebtc.com/p/2376?locale=zh
552  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 国产山寨币涌现,潜藏坐庄套利祸心 on: June 12, 2014, 03:27:11 AM
国产币不要碰 天朝人民一般利益为主。
 但是这也不是天朝人民的错。
市场上傻子太多,骗子不够用,这句话完全可以形容最近这一年山寨币涌现的狂潮,投资者太盲目,尤其是国内一些教育水平不高的,不懂英文不懂技术等等,只是跟风的一批人


比特币仍然处于婴儿时期,市场流动性并不高。山寨币的流动性就差得更远了。我们国内的比特币山寨币市场。法治缺失,盘子太小,散户太多,市场震荡更厉害,风险更大。

之前的《深度比特币》多次提醒过大家,经历过多次金融危机的,见过很多黑天鹅的,飞过极端天气的,历练过风切变的机长,才能预先避开危险地带,才能在关键的时候挽救你。这些东西是书本上学不到的,更不要说可能连应该看什么书都未必知道。
553  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 国产山寨币涌现,潜藏坐庄套利祸心 on: June 12, 2014, 02:33:38 AM
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金融本身是一个非常专业的事情,搞技术的干不了金融,金融文化和风控能力难以一蹴而就,包括世界范围内比特币的参与者和交易所大多缺乏金融背景,没有风控概念。比特币尚且处于婴儿时期,对于山寨币,我们一直的态度是持有审慎的原则,条件成熟的时候再上。。。


事实上,2014年年初以来,虚拟货币炒作从比特币向其他虚拟货币转移,记者采访了解到,在炒作获利诱惑下,“山寨币”也出现暴涨暴跌等苗头,造成部分交易者受损。

29岁的上海籍虚拟货币投资者贾某表示,不乏虚拟货币交易平台隐匿历史交易数据,或宣传提供保价“回购”。记者在交易记录中看到,其于2013年11月30日购入总额约8万元人民币的“元宝币”,报价约为119元/枚,12月18日卖出时已跌至26元/枚,币值缩水近8成。

此外,不乏虚拟货币涉足实物支付、证券发行行为,一些交易平台已触及金融权益类交易。《经济参考报》记者查阅多家虚拟货币交易平台网站发现,其备案资质多为电子商务或网络咨询。但随着市场规模持续放大,金融权益类交易成为其业务主体,甚至不乏涉嫌违规行为。

现代市场及金融体系中,货币均是运作的基础,而投资者是组成市场的主体。如果平台不能保护投资者的权益 , 监管约束风险就是必然之举。按照《中华人民共和国人民币管理条例》第二十九条,任何单位和个人不得印制、发售代币票券,以代替人民币在市场上流通。这意味着,盲目轻信虚拟货币 “ 可代替人民币交易 、 支付”,资金将无法受法律保护。


畅读版:https://www.lakebtc.com/p/2372?locale=zh

554  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 预测2014世界杯结局?经济学模型还能这样用?! on: June 11, 2014, 06:45:39 AM
国际投行设计模型预测2014世界杯结局


每隔4年,一些由高薪、极度好胜的人组成的团队就会试图击败国际对手。但这不是指世界杯(World Cup),而是那些预测谁将赢得世界杯的投行。

2006年世界杯,投行瑞银就准确预测到决赛的两队为法国、意大利,并预测到意大利最后夺冠。

用的还是经济学的老本事,大体原理是设立计量模型,找到重要变数,查找历史数据,再考虑上今年的赛程因素,得出预测结果。


今年,高盛、裕信和丹斯克的经济学家计算了从人均国内生产总值、到可耕地面积的每一项经济指标,最终拿出一份一份长达60页的分析报告,称,今年世界杯四强将为巴西、德国、阿根廷和西班牙,决赛则是巴西与阿根廷对决,巴西夺冠机率达48.5%,阿根廷胜算为14.1%,预测最后巴西将以3比1拿下冠军。至于上届冠军西班牙队,将在8强赛中被德国击败。




畅读版:https://www.lakebtc.com/p/2370?locale=zh
555  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoincharts won't load bitstamp data last few days on: June 10, 2014, 08:57:00 AM
does anybody else have this problem?
Bitcoincharts.com only loads bitstampUSD up to June 6 for me.

it happened to our exchange, LakeBTC.com, a few times before.

the first incidence was caused by a data issue on our side, while the others disappeared automatically after a couple of days. Presumably they noticed the problem and fixed it.
556  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 比特币的货币情结 on: June 10, 2014, 02:10:30 AM
迄今为止,比特币能否在未来担纲市场中的货币角色,取人民币或者美元而代之,仍然纠结着比特币持有者们的心!

不过,无论是支持或者反对比特币成为货币的观点,都基于人们从传统的货币理论出发所形成的货币观念,但是因为这些观念上的缺陷和误区,导致人们对比特币 “货币角色”的理解和争论,始终无法深入到货币的社会属性之中;在此问题上莫衷一是的混乱状况导致了人们的行为矛盾,反而维持了比特币的神秘色彩和继续成为关注热点。



来源:和讯博客,作者:清湖渔夫
557  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 09, 2014, 01:59:54 PM
does an account can exist the USD and RMB at the same time ?
I deposited 0.965 btc,  and didn't pay attention that I was in RMB mode, the site does not give me any warning

oh, no..
I also give you support e-mail.  How can I retrieve a loss ?

you can simply place a buy order with CNY (or RMB).

as a matter of fact, CNY trading fee is 0% during our promotional period.
How are you still operating in China?

What do you mean by that?  Huh
558  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 09, 2014, 10:40:17 AM
does an account can exist the USD and RMB at the same time ?
I deposited 0.965 btc,  and didn't pay attention that I was in RMB mode, the site does not give me any warning

oh, no..
I also give you support e-mail.  How can I retrieve a loss ?

you can simply place a buy order with CNY (or RMB).

as a matter of fact, CNY trading fee is 0% during our promotional period.
559  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 银行收费越减越多,突出高收益而忽视风险和收费 on: June 09, 2014, 05:10:07 AM
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其实在这个世界上其实没有真正的无风险的交易,风险与回报永远是一对儿。

比特币的投资也是这样,看到高收益的同时要注意高风险。相比传统金融业务,比特币的波动性和风险还更大。

专业的人才能做专业的事情,外行可能根本不知道风险在哪里,也没有风控概念。大家投资的时候要量力而行,理性投资,多参考一些专业的意见,千万不要被小利引诱,不听劝阻,遭受损失之后悔之晚矣。

我们LakeBTC的目标是一个安全的、专业的、有公信力的交易所。各类衍生品、杠杆交易以后我们都希望提供,为各种投资者提供丰富的、成熟的双边交易品种,可以套期保值、锁定价格、价值投资、投机、套利、做市等等。我们希望这个市场长期健康发展,投资者的权益不要被伤害。


小额账户管理费“没商量”
悄无声息“吸”走账户余额,钱在银行越存越少

北京丰台区丰益桥居民张大妈最近遇到了一件窝火的事。去年底老伴胃病发作,张大妈在医院听说用银行卡可以在机器上自助挂号,便去建设银行开通了一张银行卡,并存入了300元。

前些日子,老伴想去医院复查胃病,张大妈赶到医院挂号,抢到特需号后却怎么也支付不成功。几经折腾才发现,卡里只剩297元了,不够支付300元的挂号费用。到银行一问才知道,张大妈的卡因为活期存款不足500元,被扣掉了3元的小额账户管理费。

“虽然只是3元钱,可办卡的时候没告诉我有这笔费用啊,银行随便扣费不说,还不通知我,一到关键时候就耽误事。”张大妈抱怨道。

银行工作人员解释,小额账户管理费是根据账户存款情况系统自动扣除的,办卡时并不知道会不会有这笔费用,而账户发生扣费时,系统并不会告知用户,除非客户定制了短信通知服务,但这种服务还要收取每月2元的费用。

小额账户管理费是近年来很多商业银行新增的一个收费项目,它打破了传统观念里“钱越存越多”的认识,一些余额较少的账户出现一段时间不用就被清零的状况,甚至会被暂停服务。

记者了解到,目前商业银行征收小额账户管理费的情况各不相同,以北京地区为例,工商银行对日均活期存款不足300元的账户征收3元/季度的管理费,建设银行和交通银行则是日均不足500元,收取3元/季,招商银行规定日均资产不足1万元,都要收取每月1元的管理费,兴业银行也对300元以下小额账户收取管理费。

相对于个人账户,企业账户的小额管理费更普遍,如工商银行对日均存款额不足50万元的企业账户,每季度收取90元,交通银行对日均1万元以下的企业账户,每季度收取60元,这对一些小微企业也是一笔负担。

据悉,近期银监会已联合发改委发布商业银行服务收费新规,自今年8月1日起有条件免收个人客户账户管理费,但记者咨询的多家银行均表示,执行这项规定需要客户自己到银行申请,银行核实清楚后,只能提供一个免费账户。

“现在买水买电、发工资、医院挂号都要通过银行,银行服务已经是老百姓生活中不可缺少的基本公共服务之一,银行本身是具有一定垄断地位的企业,对于这种涉及民生的基本服务收费,应该通过听证会等形式确定,决不能由银行自己说了算。”中国消费者协会副会长、中国人民大学法学院教授刘俊海认为。


畅读版:https://www.lakebtc.com/p/2349?locale=zh
560  Economy / Service Discussion / 【LakeBTC.com】USD Wtihdrawal via Ripple on: June 08, 2014, 01:57:50 AM
LakeBTC is also testing USD withdrawal via Ripple now. Hopefully this will reduce the cost and delay for our users to receive their USD, especially for small withdrawals.

Currently Ripple deposit/withdrawals are processed manually. We will automate everything when appropriate.

and, better liquidity should be expected Smiley Again, market makers are welcome Smiley

We are also actively looking for banking and payment processing partners around the world to streamline the deposit and withdrawal procedures for our users.

https://www.lakebtc.com/p/2284?locale=en
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