You can't even prove that bitcoin transactions are traceable. Why do I even need darkcoin?

You sure are good at playing dumb. But just in case you're not:

Smooth's point is that just because your system is secure against regular folk doesn't mean it's invulnerable to greater threats with more access and resources (ISPs, large corporations, governments, etc.).

Just like you can't deanonymize smooth's web browsing, he can't identify your transactions. Does that imply either are truly anonymous or secure? Nope.

Is this starting to make sense to you?

This is why "put up or shut up" is an argument for retards: Link my bitcoin address to my identity. Go ahead, Kuriso. Can't you do it? If not, then I guess we don't even need darkcoin, right?

Nope. Has nothing to do with distribution. Just take 3 minutes and compare them.

Want to know the difference between SDC and XMR?

Just take a look at the 100 richest SDC addresses and compare them to the 100 richest XMR addresses.

Actually, they know quite a bit, especially if said btc is coming directly from them. I'm sure they also know whether or not they're lying to you   

Obviously, you shouldn't put much weight into anything being said in a trollbox.

I don't think any cryptocurrency is at a level that the average user can appreciate yet. I suppose we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Monero has a number of improvements over bitcoin that have nothing to do with privacy. Adaptable size limits, per-block reward adjustments (as opposed to "halving"), minimum block subsidies for network security, are a few examples.

Monero is just one of many coins that "features" privacy (in some form)... privacy is fundamental, and Monero's not a one-trick pony that's gonna jump on the bandwagon and slap on some stupid shield logo so everybody can see that's what makes it special.

But again, if you disagree, then whip something up that knocks everyone's socks off.

Again, inspiration can still be taken. This is not a company. Make a logo you think is better and get people to start using it. It is your currency. Don't sit around waiting for the core team to put their seal of approval on everything, because it's ultimately you who decides.

All of the "shield" looking logos were rejected not only for being cliche but also because Monero's privacy aspects should not be viewed as a "feature," but as an inherent property that should be fundamental to any currency.

However, you should feel free to use whatever logo you want. Monero is not a company, and the core team is not a central authority responsible for branding any site or service other than the ones they create.

I see the logo more as an emblem or symbol (like the $ sign or the btc sign) with colors that can be changed at will.

If you want a different logo/symbol, then create it and see if other people start using it.

There were people who thought cloakcoin had good privacy tech as well.

It sounds great in theory, but privacy will always require a certain degree of technical understanding, especially as the "privacy niche" becomes more profitable to mainstream consumers. Just because something is advertised as "privacy tech" or "spy free" doesn't mean it actually is, but consumers will dive on it because they don't know any better.

I was just pointing out that the design flaw that "probably won't be an issue" always turns out to be because it remains the one gaping attack vector that everyone ignores.

You're saying I can't double spend if I control 60% of the hashrate? Wouldn't that defeat the entire purpose of consensus?

I don't like looking at potential security issues from a perspective of probability. That's a recipe for disaster. The compromise of masternode data WILL be an issue if darkcoin becomes popular and valuable enough. It's a design issue that wasn't fully thought out.

A similar concern with Monero (and any PoW coin) is mining centralization: if an entity can control the 2 or 3 largest mining pools, then the entire network can be compromised. It's a problem that definitely will become an issue in the future if not addressed. Again, I think this is fundamental design issue with the winner-take-all approach to block rewards. I don't have a solution

Dark wallet is exactly what I had in mind with that question.

I don't see an issue with discussing the merits of darkcoin in relation to xmr, as this is a speculation thread and darkcoin's future can play a significant role Monero's adoption/success.

I think smooth's point regarding off-chain/on-chain privacy leads to an important question: if you're going to depend entirely on off-chain privacy, why not just use bitcoin?

My belief in XMR's long term success over darkcoin has more to do with the coin's fundamentals than any perceived scamminess in DRK.

- Monero has zero dependencies. Regardless of a masternode's "vulnerability", DRK still depends on them to ensure privacy. XMR works out of the box. Just use the coin.

- Monero is not a Proof of Stake currency. Even Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin admits that a secure PoS system is somewhat of a unicorn, though eventually achievable. Even if it is achieved, I don't believe PoS assets can ever be valued on a massive scale and remain decentralized (see the first law of thermodynamics).

- Monero's blockchain is opaque. You cannot see the contents or transaction history of my (or anyone's) address, even if I make it public. This is not the case for Bitcoin derived alts.

Compelling argument. Exactly none of your points addressed the technical merits of either coin.

Ferdous, the only interpretation we made about the arrest news is that it was recent.


Then why didn't you simply say, "this actually happened 3 months ago, but I was instructed not to talk about it" ?

If you still didn't want to reveal details, then why make the follow-up post at all?

The fact is, you didn't miscommunicate. You intentionally omitted a pretty important detail about the news article, which was further misleading because your implicit confirmation reinforced its credibility. Had one of us not looked further into it we'd all still be high fiving each other, especially after your well-timed and jubilant thank-you speech.

I hope your actions are in good faith, and if they are then obviously my suspicions should be disregarded. That said, your recent comments aren't doing your credibility any favors.

And if you still have questions, just ask BCX for a vague and condescending explanation.

What I don't understand is why Ferdous posted yesterday as if Ryan's arrest was some recent victory for the community, when he knew all along that it happened back in December and Ryan's long been out on bail.


Ferdous, why were you going along with the misleading article as if it were recent news?

I'm not making accusations, but I'm starting to think there might be more to this story than we all thought.

Has anyone received reimbursements from any of the "recovered" v1 wallets? I'm especially looking for responses from established users with a significant posting history. Anyone?