While you are certainly right with your numbers (I was making admittedly similar comparisons in the past regarding the lethality risk of Corona), one important point is that these accidents happen nicely spread over a whole year. The problem with Corona is that it all happens within 2-3 weeks.

It has never been about body count in the first place, and indeed the personal risk for individuals dying from Corona is miniscule compared to many dozens of other prevalent risks in society (like as you correctly pointed toward obesity for example).

The (justified) fear is that perfectable cureable injuries or illnesses can lead to death within those weeks and this again can lead to people losing trust in the society, system, their healthcare insurance etc. if their lil daughter dies from a little cut while helping in the kitchen because there is just nobody to treat her (sew the scar, inject tetanus vaccination etc.). That is a situation you can't want at any price because it would fuck us all up to the same degree.

Agree, bullish for BTC, but not so bullish for anybody needing a lil medical care in the next weeks.

Also, I agree that the number of death from the resulting recession will be so much higher than the death toll owed to Corona itself.

It all is about a possible total collapse of the already thinned-out (for Americans: non-existent) healthcare system.

Then again, I personally would be totally scared by an illness that has the same individual risks as driving a bike on the streets of Delhi. As of today I could avoid that risk luckily.

Also, I would appreciate if you could condensate two or three of your posts into one. Your opinion is as valuable as everybody's else here, but you won't win the argument by filling pages making fun of people with differing opinions.

That said, stay safe, keep cool and take care of yourself and your beloved ones.
And naturally: hodl!

Depending on required video quality a jitsi server can easily be run from one of the parties (read: a simple consumer DSL/cable internet connection).
You could as well make a point in saying that everything using the internet is centralized by its nature, otherwise we'd have to establish p2p layer 1 links between all parties but we currently rely on the services from a few large players running the tier 1 internet.

In my country mortgage interest are going bananas since today, but in the opposite direction as expected (+15-25 base points in one day depending on bank for a 10yr mortgage). *

I get a feeling in my gut, that the lockdown/mass-dying is the warm and cozy part of this crisis.

Bullish for BTC, TP and bottled water, but being rich won't help if everything collapses around us.


* (in german) https://insideparadeplatz.ch/2020/03/20/hypo-zinsen-schiessen-hoch/

Just make sure you don't fall of the bike and possibly need medical assistance, that is exactly what this all is about.
It's not only about not getting the bat flu bug only, it's generally about avoiding to need medical care right now. In best case for you, you take the bed from someone needing it, in worst case you don't get the treatment you'd get in regular times.

I've been on racetracks when young (ages ago), I understand the fascination of having your knee on the tarmac at 200km/h totally - but still #StayAtHome and possibly save a fellow Dutch's life!

It could be worse, he could have sent the army to bring democracy to some far flung place.

But on a serious note: I really wonder for how much longer the American people will let an obvious morbus pick patient run the show.

..or open source. I agree with your general sentiment, but OSS is a bit a different story.

+1, I have setup an instance last week for friends and family and I have to say I am excited how good it works. Can even be hooked up to a SIP PBX so people from ordinary phones can join in.

In my case I used a VPS with 2 CPUs and 2GB RAM running Debian, tested it with 5-6 participants.
Had the first "virtual" dinner with parents yesterday and while strange it gave some feeling of normality.

Don't know if its true, but it sounds so british that I am confident it is.

*thumbs-up*

Switzerland has had its first mobilization since WWII.
Army and civil protection are supporting hospitals and police already since last week.

I've edited the quote of the original post for you.
Please take some time to digest it again and make sure you understand the original question.

How is protonmail decentralized? That's a perfect example for a centralized service IMHO.

What's wrong with plain old email?
Perfectly decentralized (maybe except root dns servers).

ROFLOL, here is my last smerit.

Though I beg to differ, I am a rat.
While the difference is subtle, most rats take it as an insult getting called a mouse 
(But we both enjoy scaring the shit out of kitties here and there)

Nice one, old though.
While in this doom porn mode make sure to get "The Flu" too. Incidentally a Korean movie... (got recommended to me by a Chinese friend in January).

I believe to remember vaguely that the Montan Union was basically initiated by the French to keep a close watch over the naughty Germans.
Keeping that in mind, I have an impression that this project somehow got a bit out of control.

Actually Germany also blocked several shipments from China to Switzerland in Hamburg based on their new restrictions. Not much to do with this EU free market fuckery, just stealing things basically. But for completeness sake: These shipments are said to be released meanwhile. But the unfriendly act of Germany has not been received too well in Switzerland, that could easily backfire later.

But it is heartwarming to watch from outside how solidary all the EU helps Italy in these times..

Wanna buy?? How many sheets you want? 

In the very near future only coiners will be able to afford a few sheets of toilet paper every month (TP whales will be trading full rolls on black market).

Nocoiners will have to wipe their butts with dirty, thin, single-layered, rough and cheaply made USD.

All big supermarkets here are overrun by idiots, though the small grocery stores in the villages are stocked up to the ceiling. I could choose between 7 different kinds of finest ass-wiping-material a few hours ago.
That said, if you can afford the shipping I can send you literally shitloads of TP.

I have to smile heartly when I imagine the FOMO moving from TPR to BTC in the very very near future. Moon could possibly be closer than it ever was.

Problem is that the powerful players ('big pharma') are not the slightest interested in developing a vaccine due to lacking financial incentives. Why bother developing a vaccine to be sold for a few bucks the shot when you can sell cancer therapies that cost mio's each shot. All the successful big players sold their vaccine research years ago as no good profit is expected there.

Also by the time they would come up with a vaccine, the flu could be gone already (at least in public perception) and the money spent for nothing as once the fear and panic wears off nobody will buy that vaccine. Other diseases are more certain to stay and give good profits (i.e. cancer, alzheimer etc.).

We should all engage in a nice group hug and then get fucking drunk to just sit it out. Time is working for us hodlers but against almost everything else I believe (or maybe just hope).

As always, prepare for the worst, hope for the best, enjoy the ride.

I clearly said "cases reported".

I'd say a majority of people tested have strong symptoms at least or are already critical when they are tested. The very vast amount of cases are untested (hence not reported) - unlike with the seasonal flu where you need to see a doctor for a medical certificate when you don't go to work, therefor most of the cases get reported.

So, say for everyone tested, there are dozens of untested cases (and recovering silently, some even without noticing they had a flu). None of them dies, a lot of them have Corona and recover just unnoticed from any statistics. At 5 untested and recovered per one tested you get already completely different numbers and I am sure the ratio is even higher.