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541  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: October 14, 2013, 04:21:32 PM
I like the picture of the Camaro. Cool
542  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: DDos sources is GHash.IO and associates on: October 14, 2013, 02:15:53 AM
Reputable? Who cares if its reputable? All it takes is one disgruntled employee or a dedicated hacker to take control of the pool and do whatever they want with that power. Sorry but no pool should have 40% of the network hash power which btcguild has had in recent months. That is more dangerous than a few small pools being "not reputable"

Get real, most of the pools are one man operations. No employees to get disgruntled. Also, no matter what a hacker or anyone else did, it would be countered rather quickly. Everyone would just stop mining for that pool. Instant shutdown. If BTCguild's hashrate is down now as compared to others, it is because the others grew. I doubt that the attack had anything to do with the current size of the pool relative to other mining concerns. Kiss
543  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.5.1 on: October 13, 2013, 09:01:11 PM
Actually we've reached a time where almost no one is making a profit mining which won't pass for maybe another year. Is it really time that people would be interested in a donation option?

Sounds like a Mining Tax, or Software Usage Tax. Roll Eyes
544  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [100 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: October 13, 2013, 08:42:14 PM
Odd, for the last couple of days now i've been fighting with my Bitfury 25 Gh/s rig to get it to mine at the appropriate rate. The best i was able to get today was 18 Gh/s on this pool. it has been varying between 12 Gh/s and 16 Gh/s mostly. The miner itself reported 25 Gh/s. Today i pointed it at BTCguild and immediately saw 25Gh/s there.

I can't help but wonder where the extra hashing power disappeared to. eww... that sounds like i'm acusing Slush, I'm not. I think there might be a problem with the pool though. My USB Erupters are still doing fine here.  Huh

your average speed is from last 10 rounds. If I had some problems with my miners (recently air conditioning), I know that my hashrate will be back to normal after 10 blocks found by the pool, and I don't freak out earlier.

This is true, except that this particular rig is it's own worker. the Worker's hashrate is, i believe, based on the shares found for the current round. If you start in the middle of the round, yes, the hashrate could appear low. But, in this case the hashrate remained low over several rounds and the the payout was correspondingly low.
545  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [100 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: October 13, 2013, 05:34:51 PM
Odd, for the last couple of days now i've been fighting with my Bitfury 25 Gh/s rig to get it to mine at the appropriate rate. The best i was able to get today was 18 Gh/s on this pool. it has been varying between 12 Gh/s and 16 Gh/s mostly. The miner itself reported 25 Gh/s. Today i pointed it at BTCguild and immediately saw 25Gh/s there.

I can't help but wonder where the extra hashing power disappeared to. eww... that sounds like i'm acusing Slush, I'm not. I think there might be a problem with the pool though. My USB Erupters are still doing fine here.  Huh
546  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [520 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees, Stratum, MergedMining, Private Servers on: October 12, 2013, 12:26:42 AM
There's something unclear in the auto payout: you can set a 0.00 minimum but it seems to actually be 0.01.

BTC Guild was my backup pool, and so I only have 0.001 BTC there. Obviously it won't affect my life to lose that, but anyway it should be clearer to users.

so do a manual payout.  Tongue
547  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: October 11, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
newbie setup



Cool!! I have something similar that i built to hold two ASICminer Old style Blades. Just to let people know 80mm case fans can be fit pretty well in to LEGO walls.
548  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 11, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
Personally, i blame the people who were in such a hurry, that they screamed bloody murder when things were a day or two late. As I've said before, there is always time to do it right the second time. You all wanted them so bad that you were willing to forego proper testing. So now you are seeing the results.

I blame the people who presold equipment with a given delivery date, and couldn't make working equipment by that date.

You are sort of right, they should have given a date +-4 weeks. That would have been more appropriate.
549  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 11, 2013, 06:37:10 PM
Personally, i blame the people who were in such a hurry, that they screamed bloody murder when things were a day or two late. As I've said before, there is always time to do it right the second time. You all wanted them so bad that you were willing to forego proper testing. So now you are seeing the results.

I wonder what percentage of units shipped are failing. I'll bet it is a statically acceptible number and would have been weeded out during burnin, if you had given them a chance to do burin. When i was in the AF we always said "you throw aways serial number 1." When i was in industry, we always kept the first items produced for support and further development.

Instead of second guessing them and telling them how to do their jobs, leave them alone to do what needs to be done. I doubt any of you could have done any better. If you could do better, then why aren't you. It is easy to be a mondy morning quarterback.

You people make me laugh, you gamble thousands of dollars and then piss and moan when some of the risk that made it a gamble becomes apparent. I can just imagine how you would have cried if they had delivered 100% working equipment 2 weeks late.
550  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 10, 2013, 07:01:18 PM
on that note, would love to see an update from dave on the october equipment and the upcoming in-stock stuff/sales soon. I have an h-board on order #13X im waiting for, and then would like to start filling up the other 14 slots of my kit when prices make it a reasonable investment

The new stuff will not work in your M boards.  You'll have to buy new M cards for November v2 h boards.
So if you did not fill them up with October orders, you can forget about it.

I wanted to fill up my two August kits (v1 and v2 M boards) but I cancelled orders for 30 h cards because of the price.
Now, it looks like v1 and v2 will not be available anymore.  So whatever you buy in November, buy the whole kit as you never know what versions will be available in the future (if any).



If this is true, Dave won't get any more of my business. He should produce enough H cards to fill every V1 & V2 Motherboard out there and a few spares. Otherwise the cost of the Starter Kit can't be spread over all the cards.  If they can't be bought in the future, people should be refunded $700.00, making the cost of the $1300 starter kit $600. a fairer price.
551  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [100 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: October 10, 2013, 12:56:11 AM
Might actually be looking at a proper record.  Closing in on 10x diff.  I know 10x has been done before on Guild, Deepbit, and Slush, but I don't know if anyone ever went to 11x.

Gee, that's just great!  Cry
552  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Today, ROI is an unobtainable myth... on: October 10, 2013, 12:28:57 AM
Not that I disagree with the Op but he did not mention the scenario where the price has a steady increase or even new spike which would give people ROI at least in the short term.

Hardware cost is mentioned but not the price of bitcoin.

Bitcoin is still in it's inflationary stage, increase in price is not guarunteed. Bitcoin acts as a commodity, you can't bank on price. a spike would only help if people acted on it but most will miss the peak, expecting it to go higher. Playing the exchange market isn't mining.
553  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [100 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: October 09, 2013, 11:48:06 PM

I still wanna know, since it's very obviously not us, who is getting all the blocks now?



ghash.io. BTCguild. everyone who is bigger than us.

At this rate, today's bad luck, will be tomorrows bad luck and today will have no luck at all.
554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 09, 2013, 10:40:28 PM
I'd laugh if we found out ASICminer was buying kNc's to expand their mining pool. Roll Eyes

Have they been growing exponentially?  Hasn't ASICMiner made enough coins for themselves?  Jesus christ what a pig.

I was just thowing that out there, I did not say it was true. They are just a china interest that could afford to do it.
555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 09, 2013, 10:27:54 PM
I'd laugh if we found out ASICminer was buying kNc's to expand their mining pool. Roll Eyes
556  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 08, 2013, 08:51:59 PM
Dilemma. They have a number of people who have ordered H cards for Oct. Delivery that want to pay by Credit Card. So, these people have ordered but not paid. If they lower the price and charge these people the price they ordered at they risk alienating them. On the other hand, if they charge these people a new KnC adjusted price, they risk alienating the people who have Oct orders that already paid for them. If they charge everyone the same price and then lower the price a week later, they risk alienating everyone. If they don't lower their price, they risk losing sales. But, since their unit price is lower than KnC's they are, in my opinion, justified in charging a higher per Gh/s price than KnC. I know i can't afford KnC's rigs even if they are half the price of a H board on a per Gh/s price.

I don't envy Dave the decissions that he has to make. I do feel that he has been fair to us so far and i feel he will continue to be so. He just isn't in an easy position at the moment.

I will be upset if there comes a time that we can't get H boards for V1 & V2 MBs, at least before i fill mine out.  Grin
557  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Weekly pool and network statistics on: October 08, 2013, 05:42:34 PM
Part of unknown is definitely the 100TH project which left BTC Guild to start solo mining in the last week.  They're not on your list.  They told me they were going to be tagging coinbases, but apparently something broke because I can't find any.

Thanks eleuthria. They only just started to sign the coinbase at block 261530, and then proceeded to solve another 15 in 186000 seconds, which puts them at about 55Thps.

Interestingly, 186000 is the number of miles light travels in a second.

I do so enjoy pointless asides.

actually, it is 186285 miles per second in a vacuum<sp>.
558  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [440'000 GH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees, Stratum, MergedMining, Private Servers on: October 08, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
So what you are saying is that what other pools or miners are doing, regardless of their hash rate or how many blocks they find, has no bearing on a specific pool's luck? even though everytime someone else finds a block you effectively have to start over? I have trouble wrapping my mind around that, but then, i did fail probability and statistics.  Tongue

Correct.  Nothing else on the network impacts your expected rate of block solving at a given difficulty.  The only minor impact is that when the network is going faster, the odds of an orphaned block are higher (higher block rate = more chance of two blocks at the same time), but those are still a very rare case, and on BTC Guild you're paid for orphans so they wouldn't show any reduction in luck.

I need to think on this. thanks for being patient with me.

It might help to remember that there is no "starting over" and no concept of "progress" towards finding a block.  Each hash attempted represents an independent attempt to find a solution, and the next hash you try is just as likely (or unlikely), based on the difficulty, to find a block as the last hash you tried.  I suppose you could say that when mining at 1GH/s, you are "starting over" 1 billion times per second Smiley

You see, now this doesn't make sense to me. When starting a block, I see it like a lottery. There are a finite number of possibilities to test. Granted it is a large number, but finite just the same. When you test one possibility and it fails, the number of possibilities available to the next test is one less. Until the block that you are working on is found, your odds against finding it would decrease. When the block is found, you are starting over in the sense that you have to create a new input to hash and go back to having that very large number of possibilities to work from. I'm told that this way of looking at it is wrong, and i accept that, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
559  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Who the hell are you? on: October 08, 2013, 03:33:32 AM
I thought that the "relayed by" the first node to relay the block data, not the miner that created it. But I could be wrong.  Tongue
560  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [440'000 GH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees, Stratum, MergedMining, Private Servers on: October 07, 2013, 10:07:48 PM
So what you are saying is that what other pools or miners are doing, regardless of their hash rate or how many blocks they find, has no bearing on a specific pool's luck? even though everytime someone else finds a block you effectively have to start over? I have trouble wrapping my mind around that, but then, i did fail probability and statistics.  Tongue

Correct.  Nothing else on the network impacts your expected rate of block solving at a given difficulty.  The only minor impact is that when the network is going faster, the odds of an orphaned block are higher (higher block rate = more chance of two blocks at the same time), but those are still a very rare case, and on BTC Guild you're paid for orphans so they wouldn't show any reduction in luck.

I need to think on this. thanks for being patient with me.
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