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5461  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: The largest pools are a bottleneck for bitcoin? on: March 18, 2017, 05:39:04 PM
I conducted a study of the % rate paid by the pools to the miners.

Look, the usual pool takes 0.3-1%. The amount is used as payments on server bills and profit to owners.

A pool like the Antpool pays the miners up to 20%. This means that they work at a loss!

From this we can assume the following:

- They work at a loss because they are subsidized by bankers - supporters of Bitcoin Unlimited and special services (as you know, BU will lead to centralization and make bitcoin controlled as paypal)
- Sooner or later, owners of pools of extra-paid miners may not pay a reward to the miners

Owners of large pools to spit on bitcoin. They will pursue their interests.

My conclusions:

Do not support large pools! It's a scum! Time bomb for bitcoin!

Of course, this is unlikely to convince stupid Chinese miners (who are so stupid that they do not even know English) to switch to normal pools with honest conditions. I call exclusively intelligent white people to support pools with honest% and SegWit support! It is very important!

Please leave messages in this thread so that the thread hangs at the top and he sees the maximum number of miners! Do not allow the transition to BU!
Learning English is not necessary to be intelligent and most Chinese people learn to speak very good English in schools anyway.  This is extremely offensive and arrogant of you to assume that Chinese people are below you, seemingly out of spite because they own some growing monopolies in Bitcoin mining (good for them, while I don't think it's good for Bitcoin it's not like white people never gain profit from growing investments).  I think that your point would be made a lot better without racism. 

5462  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-17]Could This Be The End For Bitcoin Unlimited? on: March 18, 2017, 04:55:21 PM
I don't think it's the end for BU because a lot of miners are monopolies in China (especially Bitmain) which for whatever reason are pretty desperate for BU to go through.  This results in a rise in more hashing power going to BU because then miners feel that they need to go with the majority of hashing power to find a scaling solution as quickly as possible.

However, it might be the end for BUcoin as a currency.  Being listed as an altcoin on exchanges and not being used for withdrawals will hurt its price significantly and a lot of the biggest money will still go towards Bitcoin Core Bitcoins, especially from those who are used to the older Bitcoin or that expect that coin to do better.  Unfortunately since nearly no one actually runs a full node, it's pretty hard for users to have a lot of say in what happens, but what this does mean is that BU is likely to fail even if the hard fork happens.
5463  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What type of wallet do you use? on: March 18, 2017, 04:43:31 PM
It's nonsense to limit yourself only to one type of wallet. In real life, you also don't have all your money in a single wallet. You have something in your bank account, something in your pocket, something in a porcelain pig and some part lies in your metal safe in the basement.
And that should be similar with crypto as well. You can keep some coins in a web wallet for everyday use, some part may be in an exchange, because you want to do trading and the rest may sleep as an investment in your paper wallet. To diverse your funds on more places also helps to improve your safety, because if your paper wallet burn, or your desktop wallet is corrupted because of broken hard drive, you won't loose everything at once.
This is perfect.  People need to take a different view of wallets because Bitcoin is genuinely a currency than can have everyday use rather than just being viewed as an asset to hold forever.

My advice for people's use of wallets is similar to my advice for their money storage in real life:

-If you're only interested in trading, hold a hardware wallet for storage at home and send smaller amounts to the exchange for use in everyday trading.  If you have smaller amounts, holding it in a lightweight desktop wallet would be fine as long as you're very careful about what sites you access.

-If you're interested in Bitcoin as an investment in itself and want to hold it for a long time, hold it in a dedicated hardware wallet, paper wallet or computer wallet and don't mess around with it ever, especially if you're holding large amounts.

-If you're interested in Bitcoin as a currency and want to hold large amounts, keep some of it in a cold or hardware wallet and leave some in a web wallet for convenient everyday use.  If you're holding small amounts, keeping it all in a web wallet is fine as long as it's quite secure and free like Blockchain.

There are so many uses that Bitcoin has and people always need to find different combinations for their individual situations.  I'm most interested in Bitcoin as a currency and for now only hold small amounts of it, which is why I keep it in my online wallet.
5464  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: somone steal btc from my wallet on: March 18, 2017, 04:35:39 PM
I experience this kind of being hacked my account, in trading site though I have 2fa activated in my account still the hacker made a transaction or steal my btc. Ive realized maybe I click the link which is phishing site that hacked my btc. So for now, Im being careful not to view any link that will steal my btc. I suggest please be careful on your bitcoin.
I'm not sure how this is possible if you had 2fa enabled as the attacker would need to have access to your phone as well as your password.

It could be that you signed up to a fake trading site (the name is not mentioned) and that they then scammed you out of your Bitcoin, or that you accidentally signed up on a fake version of the trading site which you were trying to use with a very slightly different title, in which case they could have taken a deposit and took it to an external wallet, leading you to believe that you had been hacked.

It could even be that your click on a phishing link was on your phone, meaning that they infected your phone with a virus that was capable of finding your 2fa code as well as your password when you sign in to the website, but that seems incredibly unlikely and difficult to happen so I get the feeling that you made a mistake and sent your Bitcoin to the wrong site.

Still, you need to be more than "careful not to view any link that will steal my btc".  You need to be very vigilant and think about each link individually with virus and url checks etc.  You also need to have a system for spotting phishing links and a set of criteria for what a legitimate site is like and what information it provides.
5465  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 4 Things I Learned as A Bitcoin Holder on: March 18, 2017, 04:27:11 PM
Reading the article we can reach to the conclusion that Bitcoin is the currency to be invested. Use the biggest part of your money to buy Bitcoins and hold it, if you want to invest in another Crypto-Currencies use a small part of your money to do it. In the case of China, the country regulations can make the price fall or rise, that is important to observe also.
I don't think that this is the key message of the article.  The ideal thing to invest in may change and Bitcoin will just be a great currency, but the article is more focused around any long term investments you may choose to make, with its focus mainly being on keeping safe by never being naive enough to think you can just instantly become successful in this, and I think that many people responding to this post are being the naive people that he considers in the article - people who think they can tell you exactly how high Bitcoin is going to go when they can't say what it'll be tomorrow.

Nothing is 100% stable and people need to be careful.
5466  Other / Meta / Re: Hundreds of thousand of bitcointalk accounts hacked on: March 18, 2017, 04:21:23 PM
Most of those accounts are newbies. What are the benefits of hacking newbies?
Take a look at this thread where these newbie hacked accounts are used for trust farming/false trading.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1793966.msg18067586#msg18067586
That boomin guy is the latest (caught) alt of MariusTi aka steamproject aka tberty aka Dorkslayz etc etc who uses an army of dozens of alts to fake vouch or spam bump his threads of torrent invites (and he's probably had around a 100 banned). He either has a massive stockpile of them or buys them from account sellers but I'm more inclined to believe that he has just farmed/created them himself as there's a lot that were just used to make one or two posts to bump/vouch for his thread then discarded, though some of the older ones recently came back to life and started selling the torrent invites when a lot of his other accounts got found out and banned. This behaviour with him has been going on for years with him and not just on this forum either as he's been banned from numerous forums and never learns.

So you basically just agree that hacking (old) newbie accounts do have benefits for scammer's, and illustrating those benefits to scammer's.

Steamproject ran his thread nearly 2 years on bct. What exactly was he supposed to "learn" from that?
If he "just farmed/created them himself" he must have been around since July 31, 2010, 07:44:15 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=657

Weather or not Steamproject farmed those accounts himself or hacked them or bought them is a different topic, probably known alts thread.
The fact remains that hundred's of thousands of accounts are "hacked" by someone.
bct members are left in the dark over the scale of this, while mods say there is nothing that can be done, admin haven't even responded.







Nearly all of these accounts probably are hacked, but one of the key problems is that the forum is very hands-off so they're faced with the dilemma of finding out how to prove that these accounts are hacked without intruding on people's privacy.  It must be pretty difficult.

I suppose the main problem is the security breach from a while ago, which people are now exploiting because these dormant users never managed to change their passwords as they haven't been on this forum for a long time.
5467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: WTB Dash on: March 18, 2017, 04:11:23 PM
I really, really wouldn't recommend buying DASH now, but if you want to do it, this isn't the best way.

You should go to an altcoin exchange, the biggest of which is Poloniex.  Buying from people will only get you scammed, unless you're a scammer yourself, in which case you won't have a lot of luck here.
5468  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: March 18, 2017, 04:02:46 PM
I think that the main reason people make decisions too much based on their emotions is because they put too much money into exchanges.

If you take a big risk and you're not experienced enough to use your brain, it's inevitable that you'll sell at a pretty low point.

The key rule that needs to be followed to manage people's emotions is don't invest more than you can afford to lose.  That way, if you take a risky investment like cryptocurrency you can look at it from a neutral and logical perspective rather than your fear of losing the money you put in.  If you can't handle the heat or you're not experienced enough to do it, you shouldn't invest any significant amounts into cryptocurrency at all.
5469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sub $1000, now what? on: March 18, 2017, 03:52:24 PM
With altcoins on the rise like DASH, I'm extremely worried about bitcoin. If bitcoin dies then confidence in all crypto coins die.


there will come a time when even bitcoin might die. But i highly doubt it will be any time soon.  Just do not panic and sit on your BTC. is just NOOBs buying fud and panic selling.

Noobs? Why wouldn't you temporarily swap depreciating asset for appreciating one? After the bottom is reached, you swap back and have more bitcoins.
But you don't know when DASH will reach its peak or when Bitcoin will reach its bottom.  I would even argue that DASH has already reached its peak of around $100 and is not being pumped so much anymore.  I think that the pumpers who have made it this high are trying to simulate a real rise by holding it up long enough for it to actually receive market adoption, but it's very unlikely to happen.

Bitcoin won't be on its way down for a long time, so why panic sell when it's at a comparatively low point?  The best place to sell Bitcoin was a couple of weeks ago and if I had owned more Bitcoin I would have done that anyway.

Regardless, people are talking about DASH as if it's on its way to Bitcoin but its market cap is many, many times lower than that of Bitcoin.  A huge amount of the problem is just that its supply is less than half that of Bitcoin which creates the illusion that its price is high when its actual market cap is still very low.

Ethereum is doing a LOT better than DASH and it will still never reach the same levels that Bitcoin is already at.

5470  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-18] 6 Reasons to Run a Bitcoin Full Node on: March 18, 2017, 03:42:54 PM
This isn't exactly easy for most people to do.  The article claims that it's easy and that's it's as simple as downloading the most recent version of Bitcoin Core, but as the article later points out it requires over 100gb of your disk space to be dedicated to it (an amount which most people aren't willing to designate to one thing for slight benefits over a specific provider).  It also mentions that for practical purposes you need to keep your decent computer running pretty much 24/7, which is also impractical and people would need to take some serious backups of their expensive hard drive etc. 
5471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin dropping like a stone on: March 18, 2017, 03:19:16 PM
BTC was on track for moon, why the human species consistently shoots itself in the foot regards currencies I'll never know.

Bad motives, hidden agendas, etc. Eventually it's all about certain entities that will greatly take advantage of this situation and earn possibly hundreds of millions of dollars. With Bitcoin there are no guarantees, people say, but the only thing that is guaranteed when it comes to Bitcoin, is drama. It's no surprise that everytime the price goes up nicely, we'll face whatever form of negativity that will cause the price so sink very deep. Current situation fits nicely in that category.
To be fair, there are legitimate reasons for a lot of this negativity about Bitcoin right now.  The threat of a hard fork will likely make the actual value of Bitcoin significantly lower than it was before, even if exchanges generally regard BU to be an altcoin and reject its use to withdraw from exchanges.

Unfortunately one of the main causes of Bitcoin price manipulation, though, is that it's not popular enough already.  The market cap is under 20 billion dollars, and why that may sound like a lot, it's absolutely nothing compared to huge fiat currencies - there are several trillion US dollars in circulation, for example, and no one, not even groups, own enough money to manipulate it, especially when it's used by nearly everyone in America for transactions every day.
5472  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-17]Analyst: A Bitcoin ETF Stands No Chance Chance with SEC Committed to on: March 18, 2017, 03:13:28 PM
I'm not an advocate of the US government or anything, and I don't believe that their motives are legitimate or that their beliefs about Bitcoin are correct, but I don't think that this was their main reason for rejecting the Bitcoin ETF.

The reason that I think that is because if investors were putting money into Bitcoin and there was generally big money in Bitcoin, it would not be viewed as a serious currency and it would not necessarily result in Bitcoin being seen as a legitimate competitor to fiat currency but seen more as an investment and stable asset, like gold.

Generally I do believe that their main reasons for rejecting the ETF were the reasons that they mentioned.  These were their concerns about the use of Bitcoin with crime and how easy it is to commit fraud and they are (not necessarily rightfully) concerned about the safety of their investors.  To be fair, they are partially right as Bitcoin's pseudonymity and online security make it scammers' top choice for nearly anything, especially when there are naive newcomers who believe that they can suddenly get rich from Bitcoin.
5473  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 18, 2017, 03:06:46 PM
It's strange to view any similarities in the code as theft of it.  Bitcoin code is open source, and there's always going to be amendments made based on what the new developers feel is needed at the time.  What people could argue is that BU's code is poorly developed, along with reasonable justifications why.
5474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Unlimited rapidly taking over on: March 18, 2017, 03:03:32 PM
As BU is rapidly taking over the ecosystem the price is plummeting. Will you be left behind?


damn,  you are getting better at putting out yourbullshit. I had two read twice before i looked to see it is good old kwuduck.

BU is not rapidly taking over, first of all they can not even handle the 1% changes they made to the bitcoin core codes  . Secondly they are at 32 % support they need at least another 20% and if it happens it is going to take time and alots of it.   And if it happens and we do get a seperate chain well then  BTC holders will get same amount on BU chain. So is win win for Bitcoin core holder
I agree.  Many people here care far too much about BU.  I think it's the desperation for a solution which is causing this fairly extreme optimism about BU's prospects.  It might well be that Bitcoin does end up succeeding though, if miners get a bit more scared about what would happen if a solution was not found (the reason they would turn to BU is because BU is currently leading significantly over SegWit due to some Chinese monopolies).
5475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the selloff? on: March 18, 2017, 03:00:00 PM
There's nothing new and to worried about this. It is happening usually people are doing something maybe a whale or pump and dump group.

Just to make some profits out of nothing and of course when those newbies see that there's a movement and it is decreasing.

They will usually panic and tries to sell out their coins and boom price will go down but lately you will see the price will increase again.
Unfortunately, new people and people who have put a bit too much in and are scared often just can't take the heat when there's a very slight dump and that often makes the dump a bit more significant.  It's a shame but this is often the case.

I think that the closest thing to a solution is for people on this forum to decrease the amount of FUD about Bitcoin and the rise of altcoins, and say more about different kinds of news rather than just whatever the specific hype is at the time.  Unfortunately, that seems fairly unlikely to happen, so I just hope that most people are clever enough to hold and even buy at this low.
5476  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have about 50$ where to invest ? on: March 18, 2017, 02:56:11 PM
Actually that amount isn't enough to invest somewhere in bitcoin but if you can study out on how to trade, you can make it higher.

But if you can't, I suggest you to study on how to trade first and on how the market works and moves. And when you are ready for it.

Then buy those alt coins that has a good impact in the market. Because investing that amount in a bankroll casino will not give you decent return either.

$50 is not an respectable amount to invest in casino bankrolls or even in bitcoins the only option left is to invest in altcoins whose value is not too high and wait for price to go higher and if it does then it will be a profitable decision to make and slowly and steadily you can grow your coins.

Surely isn't a sufficient amount if you are going to invest that with bankroll casino's. Though the price of bitcoin now is dropping.

Maybe investing that with bitcoin and just hold it again will be a good place to invest that $50.

Because after the dropping the price will possibly increase again and that $50 can be doubled easily by simply waiting.
Frankly, $50 isn't enough for any legitimate investment if you expect to do it without any work.  This seems to stem from the belief that Bitcoin is some kind of magic investment where you can just earn loads of money without trying.  This will never happen.  If the OP wants to invest in a trusted casino bankroll with his/her small amount of Bitcoin then that's still a good idea, it's just that the actual returns will be very low and he/she will need a stable source of income to put more into the bankroll over time for future returns.
5477  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: best online btc wallet on: March 18, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
The best online bitcoin wallet for me is blockchain.info this is what I've been using for a lot of months right now.

For me since I started to use this online wallet everything seems to be fine and there's no problem that I'd experience with it.

So this is what I recommend to my friends that wants to start bitcoin.
No, it's a terrible time to invest in altcoins.

Altcoins are in the midst of a huge pump right now, and this is something that's going to end as soon as the FUD about Bitcoin ends and people start thinking more realistically about its prospects.

Coins like DASH will be out the door for any conventional purposes soon enough, not to mention that its high price is just an illusion caused by the low supply and instamine.
5478  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: best online btc wallet on: March 18, 2017, 02:47:14 PM
Despite some bad comments i recommand coinbase. It's simple to use for receive and send transactions. And enough secure for this type of activity. I think coinbase is the number one for most people prefering online wallet. Of course be sure to read their TOS. I like as well cryptopay.me as i have a Visa card with them, making spending bitcoin more easy to me, POS/ATM
Yes agree, and I've been using coinbase more than 1 year, never encountered a problem, fee free, can receive and send bitcoin with email address so the easier than others.
Obviously! I must be agreed. It's natural issue, but the main problem is creating when a beginner failed to come out make a right decision regarding coinbase. Since coinbase has a very poor client service probably, the reason could be a massive community are connected with this service. However, more than 2 years, I also never encountered a problem.
Coinbase is bad for people who believe in Bitcoin rather than a weak speculative investment.  It halts people's accounts for gambling and if it disagrees with anything you do with its wallet it can halt your account.  This is not the spirit you need from a decent Bitcoin wallet, never mind one of the biggest.  Not to mention that buying Bitcoin with it is very annoying and they can require some draconian ID verification.
5479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: March 18, 2017, 02:44:04 PM
The difference between bitcoin and dollar or real money? bitcoin cannot be use physically in the public stores outlet, unless the merchant business owner is accepting bitcoin as payment but most of the realy money was often to used. and bitcoin was decentralized that's why many of the community like it so much due to none of the biggest bank and government don't have the power to control bitcoin unlike the real money like USD , EURO and others are centralized.
to me i think the only difference is that bitcoin is virtual currency, while bitcoin is fiat currency, but still in some places bitcoin can also be use as fiat currency where the number of bitcoin users are more.
Fiat is more stable than bitcoin, and to think only how traders need to adjust the prices for the goods so that bitcoin matches the price of the goods. This introduces some difficulties for businesses in retail stores.
yes fiat is more stable than bitcoin the reason is that fiat is already established currency and it is regulated the same everywhere while bitcoin is not yet fully established and its use is still not the same everywhere but sometimes the use in increased and sometimes decreased that is why bitcoin is not stable. So that is not distinguishing bitcoin from fiat.
Well it's partially about that, but it's also because Bitcoin cannot be regulated.  Because of its free and open nature, no government is going to be introducing new Bitcoin into the market and the amount of Bitcoin which is introduced is completely static.
5480  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trust Issues on: March 18, 2017, 02:38:59 PM
So I do most of my activity behind TOR.

When I signed up here, I had to pay a fee as I signed up behind TOR as no doubt some numpties scammed some people or something. I had no problem paying the fees as they were tiny.

Now I find that I can't post a lot of the time as people are posting from the same IP as me which means I have to wait like 5 minutes... However 'this lessens with more trust'.

So I don't want to move away from TOR - yes I know there are some VPNs out there which have no logs policy, and my actual set up is TOR over no logs VPN.

How do I get more of this trust? It's getting annoying trying to post, not being able to and having to try and wait it out or reload TOR.

As I go to post this thread, I wonder how many times I will need to reload TOR before I can post.

All TOR IPs are subject to "points of evil" on this forum as people could just spam creating newbie accounts on the TOR network and spam useless content or advertising content onto the forum, which is something we are against.

As people above me has said, this has nothing to do with using TOR. Once you get above 16 activity points, your time per post limit drops dramatically. Again, this is as a result of people abusing the forum by posting spammy content as a newbie.

If you want to avoid paying the fee, you can always sign up under a normal network connection, or just go connect to a public wifi or computer. Once you create your bitcointalk account, you can then proceed to using that account on TOR without having to pay anything.

Hopefully i helped.
True.  If you're concerned about your anonymity or security, you could always connect to a normal network and then go to a public wifi network while using your VPN.  This way, if anyone gets past your VPN and finds your real IP it'll still be in a public place and no one will find out where you live or be able to track you down.

However, as far as I know this is just post restrictions on new members - people with a very small amount of activity can only post once every 6 minutes.
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