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5501  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New habit - Do you accept bitcoins? on: December 13, 2011, 06:18:57 PM
I was thinking of a common string for people on ebay & craigslist and such to use that accept bitcoin (so that it makes a handy search term).

"Bitcoin Accepted" seems to make sense.

I can also see:

"Bitcoin Accepted : At mtgox rate at end of auction"

or

"Bitcoin Accepted : 1 BTC = $3"

The second seems much better since it avoids looking up ugly conversion rates at specific times after the fact.

For searching on this term, "Bitcoin Accepted" needs to be in the title (ebay doesn't search the description by default). You can check the box that searches the description as well, but I wouldn't rely on consumers to do that.
My purpose isn't to draw in people who already use bitcoins, but rather to get more people curious about it.  That's why it is in the auction body, not the title.

I figure anyone who is looking for Bitcoin-specific auctions on eBay would do a Title & Description search, knowing that not all sellers who accept Bitcoin also put it in the title.

Since the price of BTC has been relatively stable recently, it'd probably be fine to do a "Bitcoin Accepted : 1 BTC = $3" statement.  I might give that a try next time.
5502  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No longer tin-hat conspiracy theory: FEMA Camps Everywhere on: December 13, 2011, 06:00:10 PM
Well, they're all afraid that they'll start detaining non-criminals for non-crimes.  Like, just being anti-government or something.  I don't see that happening without a huge uproar about it from the people.

Its a gradual process, aka a slippery slope and you are sliding VERY fast. As a non US citizen it really frightens me to see you heading down the road to tyranny. Do read up on the rise of Nazis in the 30s, there are striking parallels.
What is happening in the US now on a regular basis would have been unthinkable and caused huge outcries only a few decades ago and likewise what you consider unthinkable now may well cause an equally deafening silence in a few years particularly if the country is in a bigger turmoil.

Already US citizens seem to accept their president can liquidate US citizens without due process by just saying he is a terrorist (and with virtually no evidence to support it). Other top politicians called Julian Assange a "terrorist". That guy that was jailed for coining his own money, that was labeled an act of terrorism. Software piracy and hacking is being linked to terrorism. How long until they throw people like that in Gitmo, or a drone attack becomes acceptable? Unthinkable? The legal basis is already in place. If you dont stand up to it now, dont be surprised when it actually happens.
They accept it, because of 9/11.  If some terrorists need to be liquidated to prevent another 9/11, then that is ok in my book.  Even if some of them turn up to be innocent.  I would rather one innocent person die than thousands.

If it makes you feel any better, I am a vast minority in that viewpoint.  In fact, I do not know of anyone who shares it with me.  So, most of America is NOT ok with these things.  I just think it makes sense to kill one person (or a handful of people) in order to save many.  I do not believe the judicial system always has enough proof or power to prevent a catastrophic event, and that is why I believe the rules need to be broken from time to time.

Well, I'm not sure if you'll view this as a good or bad thing, but I know plenty of people who agree with you.

Sure, most of them would never actually verbalize the idea of sacrificing the few to save many, even to themselves, but their reactions and preferences make it crystal clear.
*shrug*

It's what makes sense to me.  I could be wrong, could be right, and only the future knows.  I do understand that powers can be abused, and that we should be careful, but I am willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt on that front.  Until I see serious instances of abuse, I'm not going to call them out on it.  And one instance of abuse doesn't necessarily mean the whole thing should be abolished, either.  It just means there is a problem in the system somewhere to be fixed.  It is when there is consistent, purposeful, and blatant abuse that the whole thing should be stopped.  And that hasn't happened.
5503  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New habit - Do you accept bitcoins? on: December 13, 2011, 05:32:51 PM
Similarly, when I list things on eBay, I put a "If you would like to pay with Bitcoins, contact me for a quote" line at the bottom.
5504  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No longer tin-hat conspiracy theory: FEMA Camps Everywhere on: December 13, 2011, 05:27:36 PM
Well, they're all afraid that they'll start detaining non-criminals for non-crimes.  Like, just being anti-government or something.  I don't see that happening without a huge uproar about it from the people.

Its a gradual process, aka a slippery slope and you are sliding VERY fast. As a non US citizen it really frightens me to see you heading down the road to tyranny. Do read up on the rise of Nazis in the 30s, there are striking parallels.
What is happening in the US now on a regular basis would have been unthinkable and caused huge outcries only a few decades ago and likewise what you consider unthinkable now may well cause an equally deafening silence in a few years particularly if the country is in a bigger turmoil.

Already US citizens seem to accept their president can liquidate US citizens without due process by just saying he is a terrorist (and with virtually no evidence to support it). Other top politicians called Julian Assange a "terrorist". That guy that was jailed for coining his own money, that was labeled an act of terrorism. Software piracy and hacking is being linked to terrorism. How long until they throw people like that in Gitmo, or a drone attack becomes acceptable? Unthinkable? The legal basis is already in place. If you dont stand up to it now, dont be surprised when it actually happens.
They accept it, because of 9/11.  If some terrorists need to be liquidated to prevent another 9/11, then that is ok in my book.  Even if some of them turn up to be innocent.  I would rather one innocent person die than thousands.

If it makes you feel any better, I am a vast minority in that viewpoint.  In fact, I do not know of anyone who shares it with me.  So, most of America is NOT ok with these things.  I just think it makes sense to kill one person (or a handful of people) in order to save many.  I do not believe the judicial system always has enough proof or power to prevent a catastrophic event, and that is why I believe the rules need to be broken from time to time.
5505  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mtgox auto-signs with a 437522 BTC wallet?!? on: December 13, 2011, 04:13:45 PM
I don't think they would even try, more likely they would reimburse in fiat. 
If someone stole 500k BTC, they'd probably start selling them immediately.  So the thief sells, MtGox buys, the price should stay *relatively* stable, and everyone goes on their way.

Probably though, MtGox would reimburse immediately from their cold storage, so their customers would not have to wait for this action to happen.
5506  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No longer tin-hat conspiracy theory: FEMA Camps Everywhere on: December 13, 2011, 09:08:03 AM
I'm not afraid of the detention camps popping up all over my country. After all, I'm not a criminal. I've got nothing to hide. If you are against them, then you are probably a criminal.
Well, they're all afraid that they'll start detaining non-criminals for non-crimes.  Like, just being anti-government or something.  I don't see that happening without a huge uproar about it from the people.
5507  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mtgox auto-signs with a 437522 BTC wallet?!? on: December 13, 2011, 08:32:06 AM
Question: How do ANY of you know that that is the full amount deposited on MtGox?  You all keep talking as though this is the entire MtGox fund?  What if the cold storage is 1M or 2M BTC, and this is just the amount they like to keep on hand to fill withdrawal requests?

We never said that the address contained the entire MtGox balance, only that is a large balance.
Only $1.5M worth.  It really wouldn't be that hard for MtGox to cover that amount at this point, I think.  They've made bank on trading so far...
5508  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Staff from PBC suggests taking control of bitcoin network. on: December 13, 2011, 08:31:14 AM
In contrast, my friend who is visiting China right now took a bus out of Chendu because the taxi fare has doubled since she was there a few years ago.  She tells me that the price of pork in Guangzhou is about the same as in the US and people's wages are really not up nearly that amount.

Interesting - I live in Beijing (have done for 5 years now) and the price of a taxi to/from the international airport (one of the bigger taxi drives you are likely to take here) has only gone up by around 15% in that time (from around 60 RMB to 70 RMB going from the airport to the CBD area).

That being said it is correct that the price of food (and pork especially) has increased a lot and wages haven't kept up as much but I haven't noticed any significant drop in the popularity of people going out to eat "Yuxiangrousi" (the most popular pork dish) here. Perhaps people are just buying less new (or "real" brand) clothes instead. Wink


Cheers,

Ian.

Well, price of food going up with stagnant wages has been happening here in the US as well.  It's a natural consequence of the higher fuel prices that all the envirowhackos are cheering about.
5509  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No longer tin-hat conspiracy theory: FEMA Camps Everywhere on: December 13, 2011, 08:29:06 AM
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Again, I am not conspiracy-theorist enough to think that this would happen.  At least in my lifetime.  Call me naive, or stupid, or whatever, but I prefer to not live a life of paranoia.

Im not asking you to stand up against those alleged camps. I have no idea if thats true or not, or what its purposes is, but its irrelevant. What is relevant is the power your government has assumed that allows it -among so many other things- to use them. That is, to detain you without charges, without trial, without recourse. Thats what I would fight tooth and nail if I lived in the US. Not because I expect massive abuse by the current administration, but by a future one. And by then it will too late. From the patriot act to this National Defense Authorization Act and everything in between, almost all pieces are in place for a fascist dictatorship. You dont have to be paranoid to fear that.
I'm indifferent.  I actually agree with those things - I think the world is too politically-correct, and that sometimes, rules need to be broken.  I would rather they detain a person without charges than another 9/11 happen.  I do understand and appreciate your fears as well though - I just feel that we are still so far away from something like that happening that I have no need to speak out against it.
5510  Bitcoin / Pools / Password reset on btcmine.com on: December 13, 2011, 02:19:35 AM
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for your user account at btcmine.com.

Please go to the following page and choose a new password:

https://btcmine.com/user/password/reset/confirm/[REMOVED]/

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Uhh.... no I didn't!!
5511  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Internet Archive (Home of the Wayback Machine) Accepting Bitcoin Donations! on: December 13, 2011, 01:02:11 AM
And how much were you pledging exactly?
How is that relevant exactly? I don't care if the amount is too insignificant for my opinion to matter. But I think that placing the Bitcoin donation link to an almost invisible location is an outrage, honestly. No one is going to notice, no one is going to care.

The Internet Archive is an established organization with good reputation.  In one day, they set up a Bitcoin account and emailed back their address.  Within two days, they had their address on their FAQ.  If you want to email them to help them improve placement to maximize the number of Bitcoin donations they receive, I fully support you. 

They were prompt and responsive to my email.  They are new at this.  Bitcoin is confusing.  Cut them some slack. 

The link to the BTC address is not in a prominent location, probably because they aren't sure how much money they will be able to raise with it.  BTC addresses are ugly, and a novel concept to understand.

I think your being "genuinely pissed" is childish and laughable. If you want them to move the link, you shouldn't cancel your pledge, you should pledge more! (and email them polite suggestions)  They will want to feature their BTC address prominently if they are earning a comparable amount from BTC as from justgive.org and PayPal.  If they only get pocket change, they will think of it as a hassle and a waste of time. 

Please, do not lash out at charitable organizations.  We want Bitcoin to have a positive reputation.
I think childish and laughable aptly describes the response from Technomage.  Well put.
5512  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Internet Archive (Home of the Wayback Machine) Accepting Bitcoin Donations! on: December 12, 2011, 11:47:12 PM
I wonder if it (or google cache) has a copy of:

https://www.dwolla.com/dialogs/terms_and_conditions.aspx

BEFORE July 27th when they changed it.

Do any forum members have a copy of the Dwolla TOS before July 27th?

Cheers!
They don't seem to.... in fact, they don't have a record of that page at all!  Maybe they don't archive pages that must be accessed via a secured connection?

http://liveweb.archive.org/https://www.dwolla.com/dialogs/terms_and_conditions.aspx
5513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "The world is facing a major, major crisis." - Is Bitcoin ready? on: December 12, 2011, 11:10:35 PM
Yes.  Are people ready to be accountable for their own money? No. Too much personal responsibility.
Lack of responsibility only means they won't ever learn responsibility.  Responsibility must be given, and mistakes made, for responsibility to be learned.

MyBitcoin was a great example. People were so used to only be robbed by institutionalized traders, and not by small pot ones, that blindly trusted some wallet. Then disaster ensued.
Exactly.  Without MyBitcoin, we wouldn't have learned the lessons that we learned.  We now know to be more careful and suspicious of new online Bitcoin services.

It amazes me that people hadn't already learned this lesson prior to Bitcoin.

I was thrilled to have such control over my wallet, I couldn't imagine giving up that control to some random internet website. Hell, I was using sterile offline storage methods long before that. I guess I'm paranoid. Sad
I would agree, but I'm afraid it would be a tad hypocritical.  I didn't trust MyBitcoin, but I did get scammed $300 worth of BTC trying to buy a laptop.  :\
5514  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No longer tin-hat conspiracy theory: FEMA Camps Everywhere on: December 12, 2011, 11:06:23 PM
    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Again, I am not conspiracy-theorist enough to think that this would happen.  At least in my lifetime.  Call me naive, or stupid, or whatever, but I prefer to not live a life of paranoia.

I've already seen government IPs in my Gmail inbox. I know I am on terrorist watch lists. I am leaving the country for a reason. Mind you, I am not remotely violent.
Sorry to hear.
5515  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "The world is facing a major, major crisis." - Is Bitcoin ready? on: December 12, 2011, 10:58:24 PM
Yes.  Are people ready to be accountable for their own money? No. Too much personal responsibility.
Lack of responsibility only means they won't ever learn responsibility.  Responsibility must be given, and mistakes made, for responsibility to be learned.

MyBitcoin was a great example. People were so used to only be robbed by institutionalized traders, and not by small pot ones, that blindly trusted some wallet. Then disaster ensued.
Exactly.  Without MyBitcoin, we wouldn't have learned the lessons that we learned.  We now know to be more careful and suspicious of new online Bitcoin services.
5516  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No longer tin-hat conspiracy theory: FEMA Camps Everywhere on: December 12, 2011, 10:57:21 PM
Who needs camps anyway, when your president can already assassinate you at will and the military detain you forever with no trial or anything?

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I'll protest it when it happens, and if it happens to people who aren't terrorists.  Until then, it's just a conspiracy theory to me.

By then, it would be too late. Now is the time to protest while you still can.

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7688&updaterx=2011-12-09+13%3A56%3A19
I'm not worried.  The president has no reason to assassinate me, or detain me without trail.  I am not a suspicious person.
5517  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Internet Archive (Home of the Wayback Machine) Accepting Bitcoin Donations! on: December 12, 2011, 07:55:44 PM
Well I didn't fill it, but I sent 1 to their wallet.
Could have sent it as 10,000,000 satoshis in individual transactions, that would have filled it pretty quick!
5518  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No longer tin-hat conspiracy theory: FEMA Camps Everywhere on: December 12, 2011, 06:37:58 PM
Still a tin-hat conspiracy theory.

So what if FEMA is preparing "camps"?  What do all these conspiracy theorists think is going to happen?  The military suddenly puts everyone in the nation into camps?  Yeah, right.
The military is going to put "terrorists" into these camps. In other words, civilians with anti-government leanings that they don't happen to like.
I'll protest it when it happens, and if it happens to people who aren't terrorists.  Until then, it's just a conspiracy theory to me.
5519  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Internet Archive (Home of the Wayback Machine) Accepting Bitcoin Donations! on: December 12, 2011, 06:23:19 PM
"Every bit helps"

 Cheesy
5520  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Heat from computer vs electric furnace on: December 12, 2011, 06:15:23 PM
Is that 'electric furnace' a heat pump type or coil type?

It's a coil type.

I wish I had thought of this before. Now I can leave on all the lights and appliances I want.
Resistance electric heating (coil type) is very expensive to run.  A heat pump uses about 1/3 the electricity for the same heat unless you are pretty far north.  There are now window AC units with true heat pumps in them for under $1000.  They may pay for themselves in one heating season.  

"coil type" was still confusing to me.  Made me think of heat pump compessor/evaporator coils.

To the OP:
if your heat is RESISTANCE heating (i.e. a wire has electricity flowing through it and gets hot which heats up your home) then yes your mining rig is just as efficient.  

Resistance heating = 293 BTU heat per 1 kWh electrical power used (and billed).
Mining Rig = 293 BTU heat per 1 kWh electrical power used (and billed).
Portable Space heater = 293 BTU heat per 1 kWh electrical power used (and billed).

If your "electric furnace" is a heat pump they you likely are getting 2x to 3x (maybe 5x) the thermal energy (in BTU) per unit of electricity.  Yes you can get more than 1 unit of heat for 1 unit of electricity.  This is possible without violating any commonly misunderstood laws because a heat pump (or AC unit) doesn't just create heat.  It MOVES heat (thermal energy).

AC unit only moves heat IN ONE DIRECTION (inside house -> outside house)
Heat pump moves heat IN BOTH DIRECTIONS (depending on if you want your house warmer or cooler than ambient temp).

Heat pump = AC in reverse (pumps heat into house instead of pumping it out).  Still even if you have a heat pump a mining rig is superior to provide some or all of your heating needs.  Mining rig provides both heat AND cashflow.  Unless your mining rig provides 100% of your heating needs you should look at getting a heat pump.  It can overnight cut your heating costs in half (or more).

I thought 1 kwh of resistance heating was equal to 3,412 BTU?
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