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5501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Using Crypto at Gas Stations on: January 03, 2020, 11:24:05 PM
I think I've seen a gas station that accepts crypto but it's offshore that was posted here before and I can barely remember where that could be.
So, you saw it in real life? Not from reading an article/news? Once you found it, just post the picture or the link source if you got it from an article. I am curious to know it since it never happened in my country.

it's not safe to buy gas with while online in your phone when paying crypto on the gas station.
It is easy to get a solution. Just make a payment place at the entrance of the gas station. So, you will pay before you go in.

Actually, I don't focus on this side, but how the implementation of crypto payment can be approved by the governments. It is more complicated than discussing the payment technical.
5502  Economy / Economics / Re: What is safe asset? And If USA dollar weakining what is Next Fiat? on: January 03, 2020, 09:28:24 PM
So what is Next currency to use? Its a euro?
Not really sure to answer this question, it should be very debatable. Everyone will argue based on their respective regions. Europen people must state Euro and Asian people may claim an Asian currency association.

And what is the safe asset? I Think its not Gold and its not Property either
Why not gold or property? Do you want to say Bitcoin or other digital assets? Or you want to consider some best performing commodities: https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-btc-tops-all-other-commodities-in-returns-for-2019/
However, for me, the safest options are still gold or property. They have stable values and even rising from time to time.
5503  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin - 11 Years Of Glory (First Genesis Block) on: January 03, 2020, 08:42:33 PM
-snip-
Yes. And it means the birth of Bitcoin. The first time Bitcoin was created.

I think it is time to say: Happy birthday, Bitcoin. You have been 11 years and continues to exist among various good/bad issues about you. I believe you are unstoppable and will be there lasting.  Smiley
5504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin fail if Satoshi is found? on: January 03, 2020, 08:25:03 PM
-snip- there's no such thing as 100% anonymity. A slight error in covering tracks, could expose your identity within the mainstream world. -snip-
Yes, it is true. But no error can be found so far, right? Even many people try to analyze it in various ways, no one can find convincing clues. This means 100% anonymity is proven so far.  Cheesy  

-snip- If he/she is still alive, governments would be on his/her tail to put him/her in jail or even pay a hefty sum of taxes. -snip-
Are you sure to call Satoshi, "he/she"? Don't you want to add "they"? How if Satoshi is an identity of a group of people?  Grin

As long as Bitcoin is unregulated by any country, I think Satoshi has no responsibility to pay taxes. Moreover, governments cannot imprison people without strong reasons, now what is the convincing reason for imprisoning Satoshi? Illegal business?  Huh
5505  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Performa terbaik komoditas tahun 2019 on: January 03, 2020, 07:53:09 PM
Mohon maaf sebelum OP, saya pernah mendapatkan tread dengan topik seperti ini di tread luar,
namun memiliki pertanyaan yang sama persisi dengan peforma komoditas  terbaik tahun ini.
Thread yang sama? pertanyaan sama? Apakah saya punya pertanyaan yang diajukan ke pembaca di atas?
Bisa jadi ada thread yang sama, karena sama sumber artikel. Tapi saya pastikan saya tidak copy-paste thread orang. Tolong agan kasih linknya, link thread yang agan pernah baca di luar tersebut, biar saya tambahkan untuk link terkait di atas.

entah yang membuat postingan ini dengan satu akun atau dengan akun yang berbeda
Saya tidak membuat thread serupa di board luar. Kalo ada berarti itu yang buat orang lain.

Tetapi perlu diingat, jika dibandingkan dengan komoditas-komoditas lain (yg ada di list tersebut), Bitcoin juga memiliki tingkat volatilitas yang paling tinggi.
Setuju gan, makanya di atas saya tegaskan dengan keterangan : resiko investasi Bitcoin terbilang tinggi.
Terima kasih gan untuk tambahan penjelasan tentang resiko investasi pada Bitcoin.
5506  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sending Bitcoin over Bluetooth? on: January 03, 2020, 07:40:01 PM
It seems possible why not. As long as it can connect two devices, I think the transaction can be done. I have read 1 article and 1 video talking about a transaction over Bluetooth. Just visit these two links below:

- https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-box-can-process-payments-web-connection
- https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jgg5i/pay_using_bluetooth_ble_instead_of_qr_code_with/
5507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top 3 Cryptocurrency Marketplaces on: January 03, 2020, 09:17:08 AM
I havenīt heard about these platforms.
Same with me, I just know it and I'm surprised that OP said those are top 3 crypto marketplace. So doubtful for me, it seems the writer only used Alexa traffic ranking to determine them. Or actually the writer only intended to promote that marketplace. There is a lot of mass media paid to promote crypto projects, so it is quite difficult to trust on that news.
5508  Economy / Economics / Re: Halving is approacing: HOLD YOUR BITCOINS AND NEVER SELL THEM on: January 02, 2020, 09:37:53 PM
Unfortunatly, while you are hodling, you dont have any profits.  To get them you should find right date  for selling.
That's why sometimes we need other ways to get profits. I mean not only holding, but we can also try trading to earn regular profits. Holding is mostly intended for a long term investment. It should take for months/years. Surely, we won't hold forever, there is a time to trade assets.   
5509  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we getting a pump and dump for this month? on: January 02, 2020, 08:15:30 PM
Not really sure when talking about a specific time of pump and dump because they can happen anytime. Sometimes we have both pump and dump in a month, but at the other time we may find out no pump exactly. January is like the time for every investor to prepare their strategy and plan for their assets for 1 year ahead. In this case, the biggest possibility is for a dump.
5510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright never understood anything about bitcoin on: January 02, 2020, 07:54:41 PM
It's about Bitcoin, this topic should be on Bitcoin discussion. Please move it there!

About Craig Wright, he absolutely stated the statement without considering anything, no data, or not based on research. So, we have no reason to trust in his statement. I can say that he is like a Bitcoin hater, spreading FUDs to make people doubt investing in Bitcoin. So, just ignore it, buddy!  Cheesy

* The fact about Bitcoin: https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-btc-tops-all-other-commodities-in-returns-for-2019/
5511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Holiday Merits] - Post Your Favorite Altcoin Post of 2019 on: January 02, 2020, 07:41:19 PM
Two other posts

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157032.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211372.0

- Explain clearly in detail about the difference Libra vs Bitcoin.
- Tell people about the fact in Decentralized Exchange.

 
5512  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Performa terbaik komoditas di tahun 2019 on: January 02, 2020, 12:18:11 PM
Perhatian!!

1. Saya tidak pernah membuat thread serupa di board luar, saya hanya membuat thread dengan topik ini di board SFI saja.
2. Saya pastikan tidak pernah copy-paste thread orang lain, jikapun sama hanya sumbernya saja yang sama.
3. Seluruh konten OP di atas, saya kombinasikan berdasarkan sumber artikel yang tercantum di atas + pejelasan/penjabaran dari saya. Tidak ada unsur yang diambil dari thread orang lain.
4. Jika menemukan thread dengan topik serupa, harap beritahu saya linknya. Agar nanti saya tambahkan di OP dengan keterangan link terkait.

*Terima kasih banyak atas perhatiannya. Harap ini untuk diingat semuanya.  
5513  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Performa terbaik komoditas tahun 2019 on: January 02, 2020, 12:16:59 PM
Kendati banyak yang tidak puas dengan progress kenaikan harga BTC di tahun 2019, namun tau kah kalian bahwa Bitcoin lah yang menjadi komoditas terbaik nomor 1 di tahun lalu. Dari 10 komoditas dengan performa terbaik di dunia termasuk emas dan minyak gas, ternyata Bitcoin yang paling top performanya. Apa artinya? Dari survey yang ada, terbukti bahwa berinvestasi di Bitcoin jauh lebih menjanjikan keuntungan dibanding dengan komoditas lainnya.

List komoditas dengan performa terbaik 2019

1. Bitcoin: +100%
2. Palladium: +57%
3. Gasoline: +34%
4. Coffee: +30%
5. Lumber: +27%
6. Platinum: +19%
7. Gold: +18%
8. Silver: +15%
9. Sugar: +13%
10. Wheat: +11%

Hasil ini mematahkan anggapan bahwa emas adalah komoditas terbaik untuk mendapatkan keuntungan. Mungkin dari sisi stabilitas dan keamanan, emas masih lebih baik dari Bitcoin. Namun dari akumulasi total keuntungan, ternyata Bitcoin masih jauh lebih baik daripada emas. Menurut saya sih, semua investasi punya resiko, tidak ada yang jaminan 100%. Meskipun resiko investasi Bitcoin terbilang tinggi, tapi terlihat sangat menjanjikan. DWYOR  

Informasi dari :
https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-btc-tops-all-other-commodities-in-returns-for-2019/
5514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What Would Be Your 2020 Stand Out Crypto Investment ? on: January 02, 2020, 11:34:47 AM
An existing token or coin?
I prefer to invest in top coins. But not all top coins, I'm not interested in stable coins so those coins are excluded. For now, I am interested to buy more only for Bitcoin and Ethereum because I see those have a reason to increase this year. While others, I think it is better to see their progress this month firstly before considering to buy.

An upcoming ICO or IEO?
Actually, I am not sure to invest in both ICO and IEO. Invest in ICO is surely too risky, most of ICO projects only presented scams and unworthy coins/tokens in the market. While IEO was decreasing in popularity, many investors realized that IEO didn't meet expectation anymore. It seems we need some changes in both ICO and IEO system.
5515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Ethereum Big PUMP.? on: January 01, 2020, 11:57:30 PM
Actually, even though an expert predicted the possibility of a big pump on Ethereum, I am not really sure it will happen exactly. But anyway it is good news for us, especially for Ethereum holders. To be honest, I want to see it will come true along with the launching of Ethereum 2.0. Yeah, Ethereum has a true reason to move up this year.

*Read: https://www.cryptocointrade.com/fundamental-analysis/ethereum-2-0-roadmap-price-predictions/
5516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin experience in 2019 on: January 01, 2020, 11:47:43 PM
I haven't an interesting story about my Bitcoin experience in 2019 as everything looked rather too ordinary. I had a little amount of Bitcoin and kept holding it till the end of 2020 or a year after halving. I was not really sure to buy much because not all people looked confidence in the effects of that halving. So, I was trying to buy some but not too significant adding to my asset.
5517  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Upbit Resmi Terdaftar di Bappebti on: January 01, 2020, 09:06:05 AM
Filter exchanger sudah dimulai, yg masih cilik sepertinya pilihannya cuma merger atau gulung tikar.
Ada sisi bagusnya juga gan kalo ada filter seperti ini. Jadi nanti yang tersisa adalah exchanger yang benar-benar punya kapabilitas dan kredibilitas. Terlalu banyak exchanger juga tidak ada untungnya kalo umurnya cuman beberapa bulan saja. Seperti KoinX contohnya. Ujung-ujungnya bikin repot narik aset dari situ.

Kalau gak salah nanti binance mau kerja sama dgn bank lokal untuk menyediakan penarikan rupiah. Atau itu cuma rumor? Makin rame aja persaingannya.
Info dari mana gan? Saya malah baru dengar dari agan ini kalo ada rencana seperti itu dari Binance.
Masalah persaingan, menurut saya malah bagus karena bisa mendorong exchanger-exchanger lokal untuk lebih meningkatkan standarnya. Bakalan menarik pastinya kalo indodax punya kompetitor yang berimbang. Tentu tim indodax akan lebih berinovasi dan meningkatkan kualitasnya demi menjaga kepercayaan kostumer nya.
5518  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Jangan pernah Investasi di Koin Lokal on: January 01, 2020, 08:26:48 AM
-snip- tapi kalau modal udah setipis dompet ini, susah memulai lagi dari awal, in aja mau trading maju mundur, terpaksa ngampaign dulu.
hasil campaign buat trading. -snip-
Yang lebih bikin dilema kalo koin-koin lainnya pun senasib. Dalam artian juga merugi seperti TEN nya OP di atas. Jangankan untuk menutupi kerugian TEN tersebut, bisa jadi koin lainnya malah lebih parah nasibnya. Contoh kalo beli koin ICO, malah banyak yang harganya kayak kacang goreng setelah listing di exchange.  
Untuk campaign, gak bisa juga dibilang bisa menjadi alternatif nyari modal lagi karena banyakan gak ada hasilnya. Waktu habis, tenaga sudah terkuras, malah gak dapat apa-apa. Kurang efektif kalo mau nyari modal lewat campaign. Mau berapa lama nunggu sampai bisa terkumpul dana yang cukup.  Cheesy

-snip- Keadaan pump harga sesaat pra-listing dan pasca-listing jika dapat dimaksimalkan oleh trader mungkin akan sangat menguntungkan, tetapi tetap harus memperhatikan resiko yang akan terjadi.
Kemungkinan pump itu biasanya ada untuk setiap koin. Tapi kadang harga pump itu kayak semacam pancingan saja (manipulasi). Kayak mereka cuman kerjasama dengan sebuah exchanger untuk menaikkan harga dan membuat seakan-akan ada yang naruh order (order beli/jual). Padahal pada saat itu orang-orang belum bisa melakukan penjualan karena alasan tertentu. Kesimpulannya, walaupun mau memanfaatkan moment pump, lihat-lihat dulu koin itu listing di exchanger mana. Kalo listingnya kayak di indodax, saya pikir oke saja. Tapi mending dihindari klo listing di exchanger abal-abal.
5519  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Welcome to 2020, Lets set the goals to achieve this year. on: January 01, 2020, 03:40:21 AM
Yes. 2019 has been over already and we are on the first day of a new year, 2020. To be honest, I have a big expectation this year, especially for my rank achievement and my crypto assets. 2017 & 2018 were the worse years ever, I have nothing to say for those two years. While, in 2019, I have a little improvement in my Merit progress, plus I can join yahoo62278's signature campaign (bustadice) for the first time. Now, I am starting to improve both my account rank and my crypto assets. Well, let me tell you some of my goals in 2020 below.

MY 2020 GOALS
  • Have more Bitcoin and Ethereum for my main crypto assets.
  • Plan to learn how to be a weekly trader.
  • Try to master techniques in predicting crypto prices.
  • Give more contributions to forum.
  • Collect 100 Merits and reach Full Member rank. Then, continue to move towards Sr. Member rank.
5520  Other / Off-topic / Re: Happy New Year! Welcome 2020! on: January 01, 2020, 01:49:30 AM
It's January 01, 2020. 2019 has been over already and we are in a new year, 2020. I'm really curious about something to happen this year. Since we've predicted some big things coming this year, I hope they will bring back crypto euphoria as in 2017. At least, the upcoming BTC halving really gives new hope to all crypto users. Or something new will come unexpectedly to reawaken the losing spirit. Hopefully, God grants it.




=Welcome 2020=


I wish bitcointalk will be better this year and can survive lasting. Good luck for us!

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