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5501  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptomine.io - SHA-256 & Scrypt Unlimited Mining Contracts on: January 28, 2015, 09:15:02 AM
no updates until now, site still down Sad  Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

Again, it was a ponzi scheme, it collapsed. They're not coming back. Whatever you had in there is lost. Deal with it and be wiser next time.
5502  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sent 20 BTC by mistake. Please help. on: January 27, 2015, 10:49:15 PM
Posted in Cloud Mining Forum as well - http://forum.cloudmining.website/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42

They are asking about Order ID and transaction details..

Looks like they're considering refunding the OP:

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Assuming you do not want to start mining with 20 Ths, I am de-activating your order now. It might take some time to let you know about the management decision regarding this issue.

But since it's very likely a ponzi, rated 7/7 in Puppet's thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 (see 'Ticking timebombs' part)

they will be delaying 'decision' until it all collapse.

Very small chances OP will get a single satoshi back. Hope I'm wrong.

5503  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: The bitcoin race. on: January 27, 2015, 10:23:02 PM
Are you interested in playing if I put 1btc to an escrow service?
Please tell me... I have to pay for that and I would like to know your opinion before. I'm honest. I'm not rich.

I personally wouldn't. The game model isn't really attractive.

It's quite easy to be first. But even if you are, you're risking losing 2% if no one else is playing, or losing 1% if there are only 2 players.
You would have to guarantee at least 3 players to make it worthwhile.

Then again, if you see that there is already 1 player, you don't want to deposit too soon (so there will be no massive pot to win), and then you risk that:

1 your deposit won't get confirmed on time, you lose all.
2 someone else gets the last place, you lose all.
3 you get the last place, but since there are only 2 players, you still lose 1%.

So that risk is not worth the potential winnings, you'd be better off just playing on any dice site.

I like the idea of games provable by blockchain, but you should think of some other game structure.

5504  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sent 20 BTC by mistake. Please help. on: January 27, 2015, 05:26:40 PM
Tried tracing most of the bitcoin addresses associated with the address you mistakenly sent the BTC to and I can't track is back to anyone,
Sorry bud.

It's not wrong address issue, but the wrong amount. He probably knows who did he send those bitcoins to (unless really drunk).
5505  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sent 20 BTC by mistake. Please help. on: January 27, 2015, 05:23:04 PM
Unfortunately, it is not possible to revert Bitcoin transaction. Mind to explain what "mistake" did you do last night? Missclick? The 20 BTC was sent to another address just 7 second after receiving it. https://blockchain.info/address/19wN6jYvQSkW2acaSZXBavYAfde31YJrYJ

I was a bit drunk yesterday. I was trying to purchase 20 Giga Hash (2x10Ghs) hash power. By mistake I selected 20 Tera Hash (2x10Ths) from the drop down and clicked the link and it was gone. My friends told me this is the biggest bitcoin support forum. So if I tell my problem here, they can return my transaction.

As long as you haven't sent to the incorrect/unknowns address, there's a chance that merchant will refund you the bitcoins. Unless you bought on one of the cloudmining ponzis, then they may not be keen to refund.

Just contact the support and/or write in the official thread of the site you purchased from
5506  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sent 20 BTC by mistake. Please help. on: January 27, 2015, 05:15:06 PM

What do you mean by 'mistake'? Did you send to wrong address, or have you entered wrong amount by mistake?
5507  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-01-26] CD: UK Bank Closes Safello Accounts 6 Weeks on: January 27, 2015, 04:57:43 PM

That's just plain sick. All this bullshit talk about regulations and customer safety, and yet banks are able to close your account without giving you any reason.
This wouldn't be a problem, but (although not officially enforced) you need to have a bank account. No employer in UK will pay you cash in hand, and you cannot cash-out the cheque anymore (they'd only let you transfer money to your bank account).

So what happens if you're not wanted by any bank? Maybe regulators should focus on that...
5508  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2015-01-27 CA - SendChat Will Let users Buy Bitcoin With Credit or Debit Card on: January 27, 2015, 04:48:55 PM
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To this day, it remains a fairly technical process for people to buy digital currency is an easy and accessible environment. Especially because they have to trust a third party with documents to verify their identity, which can take up to a few business days before the process is completed. The same can be said for selling digital currencies and receiving fiat money, it simply takes a lot of time and SendChat will be trying to change that experience once this feature goes live.

Looking at 'beginners' board of this forum, it's pretty clear there's a lot of demand for services that allow purchases directly with debit/credit card, without having to register/submit docs etc.

Hope they succeed with that.

Btw, anyone uses SendChat?
5509  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-01-27] CNN Money: Winklevoss twins: Bitcoin will explode beyond $1 tr. on: January 27, 2015, 04:41:58 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/27/investing/bitcoin-winklevoss-twins-gold/

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But the Internet entrepreneurs are taking it one step further. They believe Bitcoin could one day morph into a gold-like asset class -- or even surpass it. "If Bitcoin is a better gold or seen as a type of gold-like asset, then it could be in the trillions on a market cap," Tyler Winklevoss told CNNMoney. "We do feel those are very real possibilities."

I don't wan't to be pessimistic... but a 250x rise in market cap? For me, this is lunacy.  Angry

The key-word here is "if". They didn't say it will happen.

Not very likely, but it is possible.
5510  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin investment ? Cloud mining ? on: January 27, 2015, 04:26:48 PM
In Canadian Dollars, the price of a Bitcoin 2 days ago was like 364$ and now it's 331, based on Preev Rates.
I'll probably just send all of my BTC's on bter.com and wait for the prices to go up, then sell. Then buy when it's cheaper.

edit: Yup, i'll do that, just realised that cloud mining was not a really good way to make btc's. Gambling either.

If you don't know what you're doing, you're very likely to lose your money this way.

If buying low and selling high was that easy, everyone would be rich by now.

There's plenty of people who bought 'cheap' at $700 and still waiting for price rise (or the other way around). There's no guaranteed average price.

Just look at bter.com, when the price of DOGE/BTC is at -10%, just buy some for 5 btc(example) and when it goes back to 0% or even +1.25% (Happens every 3 to 12 days) Pam, made 11.25% profit, you now have 5.56 BTC. More than 100$ profit. But you have to be damn lucky to make 11.25% profit, the more I made was yesterday for a test, the prices got to -10% and I sold back at -3.75%, but I only took for 0.225 btc, so it's not a really high profit.

This forum is full of people who got burnt by doing that. It seems like a system but it's nothing more than a gambling. You're betting on that there will be no permanent price decline.

DOGE was once steady at 200 satoshi, when it fell below, many were convinced that it will go back. Think about that.
5511  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin investment ? Cloud mining ? on: January 27, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
In Canadian Dollars, the price of a Bitcoin 2 days ago was like 364$ and now it's 331, based on Preev Rates.
I'll probably just send all of my BTC's on bter.com and wait for the prices to go up, then sell. Then buy when it's cheaper.

edit: Yup, i'll do that, just realised that cloud mining was not a really good way to make btc's. Gambling either.

If you don't know what you're doing, you're very likely to lose your money this way.

If buying low and selling high was that easy, everyone would be rich by now.

There's plenty of people who bought 'cheap' at $700 and still waiting for price rise (or the other way around). There's no guaranteed average price.
5512  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: what should i do right now? on: January 27, 2015, 01:54:23 PM

If you have absolutely no experience with bitcoin, I wouldn't buy large amounts straight away.

Buy a little bit and play with sending, receiving, try different wallets, use import/export options. But most of all, read about secure storing.

When you feel you have a good grasp and feel confident, then buy some more.
5513  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin investment ? Cloud mining ? on: January 27, 2015, 01:46:51 PM

As the other mentioned, cloudmining is probably not a great idea atm. But if you want to do it, read the Puppet's thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0

Other investment worth considering is investing in the house of bitcoin gambling sites. This thread has some good review (although it's not comprehensive):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826466.0
5514  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can ordinary men do to make Bitcoin grow? on: January 27, 2015, 12:55:56 PM
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Re: What can ordinary men do to make Bitcoin grow?

Use it! Regularly.

Each time you need to buy some goods or services, look for the merchant that accept bitcoin (of course if you're happy with the prices).

Many would choose just to hold. But that's not really the way to support bitcoin. Hold until when? Until the price goes up to $10k, then you'll dump it for $? Doesn't seem very supportive.

If you want to hold and support bitcoin at the same time, just pay with BTC instead of fiat and buy the BTC back. And if the merchant offers discount, you can buy back some more and increase your holding.
5515  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase - Regulated & Licenced US Bitcoin exchange - Good or Bad? on: January 27, 2015, 12:43:17 PM
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People are devided into different groups, when this is discussed :

1. People who says, it's a huge move for Mass adoption.
2. People who says, it's a blow for Bitcoin/crypto currency privacy.
3. People who says, "Bring it on, it will open up new legitimate channels for new buyers"
4. People who says, "They bring nothing new, we need a decentralized exchange"
...

As for 2 and 4: How is it a blow to privacy? It's not as long as no one forces you to use such exchange. Similarly, it doesn't stop anyone from creating/using decentralised exchange.

Don't know how could this be bad for bitcoin. I'm pretty happy that there are people trying to create a legit, safe and regulated businesses (Coinbase, Winklevoss) and that there are people (Amir Taaki, Cody Wilson) working on decentralised/anonymous solutions.
5516  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: The bitcoin race. on: January 27, 2015, 12:27:16 PM
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I know, I have no reputation, How can I start building it?

If can help, I can pm you my phone number or email.

I was not thinking about to use an escrow. Which escrow should I use? I have got only 1 BTC should I send it to en escrow?


Yes, BTC1 in escrow is better than nothing. It will guarantee that you won't run with funds <BTC1.

Here's the list of members providing escrow services:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

List is not complete, but I'm sure you'll find someone.

And if the game proves popular you will earn some reputation over time.
5517  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: The bitcoin race. on: January 27, 2015, 10:11:00 AM
Ponzi or not. If the rules are clear and everybody knows what they're getting into, I don't see a problem.

The real problem is OP being a newbie with no trust rating. I don't think anyone will deposit any bitcoins.

If you're serious about running that type of game, you need to either build up a solid reputation first or put few bitcoins in trusted escrow (as security deposit).
5518  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin WesternUnion like service on: January 26, 2015, 11:32:24 PM

I think the existence of these sites will ensure that bitcoins , will be much easier to use for people in developing countries, or for people to learn more about bitcins, and try it out.


Yup, and it will show that bitcoin is not useful only for scams and drug trades.

But some of those remittance companies would only use bitcoin as a method of transfer, in the way that both sender and recipient will only deposit/receive fiat money, so they don't even have to know what is bitcoin and how it works.

Other company allowed sender to send bitcoins while recipient can receive the funds as cash straight from the ATM.

So there are many interesting options.

If only few of those businesses turn to be successful, it would be a pretty big thing for bitcoin. 
5519  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Handsome Tax in Japan? on: January 26, 2015, 11:19:28 PM
Lol, what?

That's only possible in Japan.

But that doesn't even make sense, how will handsome tax make easier for the ugly to find love?

And how fucking depressing will it be to know that you're not liable for handsome tax (you're officially ugly).
5520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: I need urgent 8,500 dogecoins. on: January 26, 2015, 11:02:58 PM
Use https://www.weselldoges.com/

They're FinCen compliant. You can buy up to $15 worth (PayPal) with basic verification (no idea how long it takes tho):

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Level 1
Email verification: Email us from the email address associated with your PayPal account for a daily purchase limit of ~$15.
In this email, please include the following information:

Your name
Anything about Dogecoin you care to share
The amount of doge you anticipate buying per day (or per week, etc.).
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