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5501  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Any way to make IBM Bladecenter H 2880W fans quieter? on: December 11, 2015, 02:52:03 AM
If that PSU was having issues, it's a lemon. I think Phil was running on 120V back then too. 240V is easier on the PSUs, I hope you'll be using 240V with 6 S7s?

EVGA says you can pull 1300W DC from them, IE ~1450W at the wall for 10 years. That's good enough for me! Worse case they replace the PSU for free.

That's good to know as i was getting nervous after reading what Phil had to say. Looking at graphs, efficiency is decreasing at least 5% at or above 90% load.
Yes, I was running at 110/120V, but I send them all out to hosting with sidehack-posted review in Hosting service thread.
I like his arrangements and service.
Aside from the decreasing efficiency which for ATX supplies actually largely is from the fans running near/at full speed and taking more power to do it, with ANYTHING dealing with power be it plug/circuit ratings and including PSU ratings always follow the 80% rule. For the feeders it keeps plugs/cords/wiring behind walls at safe temps when under a constant near-max load - which miners present - for the PSU's you need that margin to handle the random (hopefully) short-term events all powerlines have.

For example of pushing ratings just talk to Bitmain and their experience with early s2 PSU's.... But as long as you have spares to cover ya while EVGA ships a replacement then your call. Und ja, as has been often said, any PSU is much happier on a 208-240v line because of the lower currents on the AC-line side of the power conversion.
5502  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Any way to make IBM Bladecenter H 2880W fans quieter? on: December 11, 2015, 12:59:52 AM
You sure you guys can't put a resistor between some of the pins to regulate the fan speed?
If the resistor is put in the +12v line feeding the fan, sure it will work as a brute-force way to do it. Question is it a 3 or 4 wire fan? With either 3 or 4 wire it will be reporting it's speed, 4-wire gives it built-in PWM control.

With 4-wire most often no signal = fan ON (for safety and convenient way to let fan go full speed if wire 4 is open) and +5v = Fan min speed. Play with the signal duty cycle to set the speed between it's min and max speed.. Dunna know if the PSU's fan circuit does anything re: monitoring the speed except for maybe checking for a stalled fan.
5503  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What does it take to start manufacturing miners? on: December 06, 2015, 01:10:59 AM
It's funny you mention poorly-designed power on the Monarch, because I remember talking with one of their guys on here a while ago and he was going over how difficult it was to design and test the regulators and that was one of the big holdups that delayed the product.
If it was very difficult for them to design and test the regulators I would say they were inexperienced.
My guess is inexperienced and locked into a 'well it worked before' mentality. Just gloming together more VR modules in parallel to give needed very high current and low voltage is just a small part of the battle.

Getting the desired power from the VR's cleanly to the chips is a whole 'nother ballgame and requires looking at the PDN like a radio circuit than a simple DC bus. Probing the power planes, the spiking rise/fall times and ringing you see on them even just an inch away from a different spot will be very different. To me at least, that is the biggest advantage to the string topology - currents are far lower making power plane considerations much easier to deal with.
5504  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: s7 with loose heatsink, fix in house or send back to china on: December 05, 2015, 12:46:14 AM
Just fix yourself, shipment charges ganna be so much more then the repair cost. Use tape if you have to, but make sure its the tape is not in the hot zone as it might melt.
Um, 'Not in the hot zone'?
The heatsinks being in contact with the chips sorta makes that non-sequitur as that is where majority of the heat is produced...
5505  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What does it take to start manufacturing miners? on: December 05, 2015, 12:13:17 AM
As someone whose company is actually deep in the process of bringing to market a "from-scratch" miner, let me loudly and clearly echo the sentiments voiced in this thread. It is hard. It is expensive. It is time-consuming. It is an utterly brutal undertaking.

But huge risk sometimes occasionally hopefully yields big rewards, both for the legions of bitcoin miners and for the company selling the hardware.
Agreed. The tickbox of required skillsets is extensive even if using an 'off the shelf' ASIC vs rolling your own.

Having been involved in forensics on the ill-fated Bitmine/AMT A1 boards it was clear whoever did the board design knew nothing about high current PDN's (Power Distribution Networks) much less thermal design. BFL's Monarchs are another example of failing on just those 2 points. Both Bitmine.ch and BFL apparently had no one in-house or consulting with any idea of just how different those power-hungry chips were from what they had dealt with before and what it meant to PDN and thermal considerations or if someone did raise flags they were firmly ignored.

Then yes there is the coms to work with. CGminer and using SPI of course works and is very flexible to modify/work with but... The underlying coms to/from the ASIC's leaves much to be desired. I know that chip-level IP is available to make each ASIC an address on a true local machine network so date rates to/from ASIC's and controller can now hit T1000 speeds if desired with the router/controller buffering what the mining server can handle/will allow. I'd think that ad-hoc addressing when needed vs fixed interval polling would be a far better way to handle the data today's chips can crunch.
5506  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: s7 with loose heatsink, fix in house or send back to china on: December 03, 2015, 02:56:58 PM
I agree with Rabin - I'd reattach the heatsink myself using thermal epoxy as you said in the OP.

Where gravity is an issue, NEVER NEVER USE ONLY THERMAL TAPE!!! It is NOT made for structurally holding a heatsink on and if the sinks are vertical gravity/heat WILL cause them to start sliding and eventually fall off.
5507  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What does it take to start manufacturing miners? on: December 01, 2015, 12:39:51 AM
I suppose the biggest hurdle is getting viable ASIC's to use. That means either striking a deal with proven chip makers or going full ground-up custom.

As Bitmain proved with their revamped custom 28nm chips, using pre-packaged chip IP blocks that are cut and pasted into a mask then linked together to do the functions ala' Innosilicon and Bitmain's earlier chips is not the way to go. Most off the shelf IP blocks are to some extent fairly general purpose within their type of function and not specifically optimized just to crunch SHA.The IP blocks in question were developed by the various chip design houses like Inno and chip foundries like TSMC, GloFo, et al  to be reusable in different applications with 'acceptable' results.

That said, get licensed modification access to the IP in question so one can trim the fat and optimize the inter-block connections right at the block layout level and the results can be impressive..

It also calls for equally impressively skilled chip designers and deep pocket$$$.
5508  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BM1384 Pod Miner plus trade-in/recycling - an interest and feasibility poll on: October 23, 2015, 05:07:49 PM
Just to be clear, I likely will be looking for S1 and S2 boards but right now I am not looking for anything and I will not speculate on the exchange value of anything at this time.
Werks for me. Good to know there may be some use for the things.
5509  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BM1384 Pod Miner plus trade-in/recycling - an interest and feasibility poll on: October 23, 2015, 03:25:25 PM
Just to be clear, are you still looking for S1/S2 boards to use? And how about S3 boards? I have 2 s2's, 9 S1's complete and all retired along with over a dozen s3's I'd like to retire...
Trade-in value for them?
5510  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 21, 2015, 01:52:21 PM
<snip>
And anyone know why a transformer can only handle half the load at 240v???
Define 'half the load".

Wattage rating for power flowing through a transformer is the same regardless of voltage.
Now the voltage or current ratings - THAT is what changes. Watts = Volts x Amps. When providing the same wattage, double the voltage and the current side is cut by 1/2 or conversely cut voltage by 1/2 and available current doubles.,
5511  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 20, 2015, 08:52:28 PM
So happy so far with my Batch-1 s7 so I ordered a B2 one today. Wonder how long this one will take?  Wink
Also - why are the batch3's a tad more expensive than the batch-2's?

Batch 3 is 4.86 TH/s @ 600 MHz and Batch 2 is 4.66 TH/s @ 575 MHz.  200 GH/s difference and 1160 watts for Batch 2 verses 1210 watts for Batch 1 and 3.  They are both still 0.25 watts per GH
Interesting. My batch-1 s7 came with factory setting of 600mHz and is humming along perfectly at over 4.86 as reported by my pool. Guess I'll just have to goose the coming batch-2 one to the same and see how it does.
5512  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 20, 2015, 07:28:25 PM
So happy so far with my Batch-1 s7 so I ordered a B2 one today. Wonder how long this one will take?  Wink
Also - why are the batch3's a tad more expensive than the batch-2's?
5513  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Fanilly had a 220 30 amp line out in best thing ever on: October 20, 2015, 01:19:09 PM
Being Australian we have native 240v 20a power wherever i have lived...

Now not being an electrician & understanding the whole 120v vs 240v thing can someone explain a few things??

I have always wondered why we use 240v vs 120v as it seems we draw double the power why do we have to pay extra when anything would quite easily run on 120v??

We pay about 0.13kw which to me is expensive compared to some of u out there

What is the major benefit of 240v over 120v??

Cause the only difference i see is u guys built ur power grid before us so u would have used an older style system..

I spose this is one of those things like tv systems (Pal vs Ntsc & whatever the other one is)

 You don't draw double the power but could if you plug a 110v device into a 220v socket. Power is just a measure of work being done, and formula is Watts= E*I.

Motor windings, heaters, etc, are setup to work with a given voltage and for the same function (amount of work) will pull the same amount of power. Current draw will be different but total power drawn is the same. Watts is Watts.

As for why North America uses 110V, all I have been able to come up with is that when using 220v distribution it takes smaller gauge wires to support a given load and so it was cheaper. That or wire insulation methods had improved by the time the rest of the world started electrifying. Either way, 220v is far better.
5514  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 20, 2015, 12:45:33 AM
1 week after the email saying it had been shipped my s7 arrived today.

Using an IBM 2kw psu and GeckoScience breakout/PCIe leads it is running perfect at between 4.86 and 5.1 Th/S per the GUI and averaging 4.8TH/s per my pool. Excellent.

Looks I'm going to need more breakouts and PCIe leads for when I get a couple more s7's...  Tongue
5515  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 16, 2015, 03:27:20 PM
Well, our UPS deliveries for today have come and gone - no miner despite the email I got on Monday saying it has shipped  Embarrassed
Over 1 week in-transit??? Er, the other couple dozen miners I've gotten from the S1's on up which were shipped via UPS arrived in 3 days.

What did they do - send it on a cargo ship???
5516  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Need S5 and S4 and S3 Hashboards Schematics on: October 13, 2015, 02:18:47 PM
Antminer S1 schematics are available.

https://github.com/AntMiner/AntGen1/tree/master/PCB

They are a very good guide to the other Miners in particular the S3 if you combine them with the ASIC Datasheets.

https://bitmaintech.com/support.htm?pid=00720141220132903742H2RLy6C40630


Rich
Faboo!! Grabbed.  Cool
5517  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 12, 2015, 02:44:35 PM


Update:
Scheduled Delivery:
    Monday, 10/12/2015, By End of Day

Last Location:
    Departed - Shenzhen, China, Thursday, 10/08/2015

Im thinking that if you ordered 1 day ahead of me your order will be shipped tomorrow? Good luck. And never buy batch 1 from Bitmain again : )

I got a weird call from someone identifying themselves as DHL Saturday night.  They indicated I had a shipment from China worth over $2500 in customs and they needed my SSN to process it.   Is this a new US Government action?  This is the first time I've exceeded that value in a single order.

I have not heard anything from BitMain, but I did get two text from DHL yesterday.  The first one came in the morning and had a bad tracking number.  The second came last night and is the same as above.  FYI - my order date was 9/2/2015.  Now just hoping I don't miss the doorbell ringing.

I would call DHL direct before ever providing my ssn to someone on the phone. Just to make sure.
Ditto^^ Never EVER provide your SSN (for those not in the USA, Social Security Number) to a caller over the phone! Always find out who they are (in this case DHL), look up the local phone number for them and contact them yourself to be certain it is legit.
5518  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 12, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
I just checked mine.  I ordered 09/03/15 at 06:05am.  It is marked "shipped."

I too have a UPS account but nothing is shown as being shipped.

Curious, does it have a date marked for shipped date?

I just checked my account and it says my order is shipped, but with no tracking number.
There is a date placed in the send details of:          Date   2015-09-28 00:00:00
No, it just changed to shipped in the past 8 hours - definitely 9-28 and where is the tracking?
I hope they don't attempt to compensate based upon this supposed ship date.

Same here. The email arrived 7 hrs ago and says it has shipped, no tracking info and also based on 9-28 ship date. Most odd...  Huh
5519  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Faulty antminer s5 Please Read and help me! on: October 05, 2015, 07:19:25 PM
Also, when using a LAN straight from machine to machine you MUST use a crossover cable. not a 'straight-thru cable.. The LAN ports to not autoconfig what is the Tx and Rx lines. A hub has same problem, using any reasonably modern LAN switch between the miner and computer takes care of the issue as would a crossover adapter..
5520  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Novec 7000 Project [immersive evaporating cooling] on: September 19, 2015, 08:27:15 PM
Novec is strictly from 3M and it's distributors. Thought about it myself but damn it is expensive... If BTC was still at last years prices I'd go that route because it is a very slick almost self-regulating way of moving the heat to be removed elsewhere. At current BTCvalue no way right now.
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