Saya pernah mendengar bahkan melihat di berbagai media bahwa bitcoin tidak diberbolehkan untuk di gunakan sebagai alat pembelian/pembayaran (pengganti uang) di negara kita.
Yang media katakan tersebut betul. Hanya rupiah saja yang legal sebagai alat pembayaran yang sah di negara republik Indonesia. Hal tersebut sesuai dengan apa yang disebutkan di dalam UU No 7 tahun 2011 tentang mata uang negara kita. - kenapa masih ada beberapa situs/ proyek yang menerima pembayaran menggunakan bitcoin/ altcoin?
Tergantung di mana tempat situs tersebut. Kalau address nya ada di negara lain, hukum Indonesia tidak berlaku karena diluar wilayah Indonesia. Jadi pembayaran Bitcoin/altcoin tersebut sah-sah saja. Namun jika address nya ada di negara kita, aparat bisa melakukan tindakan tertentu. - Apakah nantinya proses jual beli tersebut terkena pidana? Semisal pada aplikasi vodix yang menerima pembelian pulsa menggunakan altcoin, dll
Intinya adalah jika alat pembayaran tersebut bukan rupiah dan itu dilakukan di dalam wilayah NKRI, maka bisa terkena sanksi. Tapi ngomong-ngomong vodix ini sepertinya bukan proyek dalam negeri. Jadi jika agan melakukan transaksi dengan vodix, berarti dari transaksi dari Indonesia - ke luar Indonesia. Saya kira ini tidak terjangkau aturan tersebut karena antar negara. - kira kira berapa lama kurungan penjara/ berapa banyak denda yang harus dibayarkan untuk pihak pengguna maupun pihak penyelenggara?
Kalau menurut sumber yang saya baca, sanksinya adalah berupa kurungan maksimal 1 tahun dan denda maksimal Rp 200 juta. Detailnya agan silahkan baca lebih jauh di sini : https://ekonomi.kompas.com/read/2015/04/09/224600026/Tak.Gunakan.Rupiah.Pebisnis.Bisa.Dipenjara.1.Tahun.?page=all
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There were already many cases of scammers using telegram to trap people. I got many times about a message offering to earn money with Bitcoin. But I just ignored all, reported the message, and blocked the user. Remember, no people will share you some money only in an instant way. It doesn't make sense for sure. Let's think smarter to avoid scammer who wants to steal your Bitcoin.
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Sure. It is one of the goals why we have crypto coins, right? With crypto coins, we can directly buy without the need for third parties. It must be a more effective, cheaper cost, and faster transaction. Fiat isn't a good payment tool for online shop, it needs to transfer between one bank to another bank. This makes the transaction more complicated.
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sedikit perbedaan gan, proyek luar meskipun harga turun mereka tetap berusaha dari segala segi malah mereka mau masuk ke dalam market untuk membuat harga naik meskipun sedikit tetapi untuk lokal malah sebalik nya mereka lurus dan pasrah atau menunggu kondisi pasar naik tanpa ada usaha ini itu
Proyek luar yang mana yang agan bilang ini? Hanya segelintir proyek yang timnya mau seperti itu. Kebanyakan malah gak ada kabar saat harga drop. Sama saja kok entah proyek luar atau dalam negeri, ada yang timnya bersikap professional dan peduli tapi ada juga yang malah menghilang/gak ada kabar.
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Correct. ICO is losing popularity nowadays. We rarely saw ICOs that can provide fundraising successfully. Most ICOs failed to get funds and the rest failed to keep their token's value on the market. Finally, those conditions lead all ICOs to become dead projects.
By the way, I think some vital factors are : 1. Lack of investors 2. IEO becomes popular 3. No changes on ICO's condition 4. Most investors probably focus on Bitcoin for upcoming BTC halving
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-snip- “my sweet child’s, keep your shitcoin and it would fetch high value!”
What do you exactly want to say with these words? Do you mean to suggest people leave shit-coin and focus on Bitcoin only? Well, I will never advise my children to keep shit-coins. What for?? There are too many potential coins, why choosing the worse coins. We must know that keeping shit-coins just wastes time and it will be no future, no value, and no hope. Anyway, can you tell me a bit about what coins do classify into shit-coins category? I hope you won't assume all altcoins are shit-coins.
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I am new to this whole bitcoin thing and know very little about it.
Hi, nice to have you as a new member. Please be careful with scammers or fraudsters because there are many of them outside there. They have many ways to deceive people, including offering big profits with instant ways. They target all people, especially beginners or newcomers. I am being proposed 100% ROI, with the trader claiming 95%+ success rate. If I invest $500, I will get back $5000 within 5 days.
How can he/she guarantee for 100% ROI? And in what way the trader can guarantee to get profits $4,500 in 5 days only? These seem no sense for me. Even a professional/experienced trader shouldn't guarantee profits and surely no exact amount for profit, especially profits just in 5 days. *I suggest quitting the Telegram group. The trader is likely a fraudster. Do not too easy to trust in instant profits!
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-snip-
-snip- My plan is to hoard a lot of altcoins in order for me to earn a lot in the halving season and my target is to earn so much because of the high value of altcoins -snip- Firstly, I think you don't need to quote all the threads. It is a long thread, quite annoying if you quote all. Just write down your comment on the reply space, buddy. Why you are so confident that altcoins will have high values in the halving season? Honestly, I am not really sure the altcoins season will coincide with the halving season. According to halving history, the rising phase of Bitcoin will happen one year later. So, altcoins probably rise in 2021, not in 2020. In addition, when Bitcoin rises, sometimes altcoins don't follow it. So, why you don't hoard Bitcoin which has more potential to soar?
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It's back.
OP, the search feature has been recovered. You can use it now without any problem. Please lock this thread!! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Long term plan:- I have a plan to make this thread as a place to write my account history. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Update on OP currently (March 10, 2020): Title:My journey in 2019 - 2020 (Nothing is impossible) New paragraph:Today, I have earned 250+ Merits and I am already a Senior Member. Thank you so much for Mr. dbshck as the biggest contributor to my achievement so far. Also to others that always support and appreciate my efforts. I'm lucky to have you all. *Now, the next target is Hero Member. It seems to be a long journey. But will try my best. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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After around 2 years got no earned merits, finally I earned the first one on December 01, 2019. It became a new stage for my account improvement. Since that day, I can gain several merits in the following days. Thanks to Mr. abhiseshakana as the first merit sender for me. Well, December 2019 is really my lucky month. I never imagined that I can earn 45 Merits during that month. Today, I have earned 250+ Merits and I am already a Senior Member. Thank you so much for Mr. dbshck as the biggest contributor to my achievement so far. Also to others that always support and appreciate my efforts. I'm lucky to have you all. From this short story, I want to tell newbies and Junior that getting merits is not impossible. I don't know anyone, but apparently I can still collect merits. This means as long as you want to try serious efforts, people will appreciate your works. Of course, not just any trying, but there are some things that we must be fulfilled. I realize several things. Thread/topic- Create a useful/helpful thread or topic.
- Its content should be informative, easy to understand, and clearly enough
- The sentences have a correct grammatical function and written in proper punctuation.
- The paragraphs are made in the right order, from opening to closing.
- The topic is delivered in a simple or straightforward manner. Don't make it complicated.
- Unique. It mustn't a copy-paste/plagiarism work.
Reply- It should be on topic.
- The sentences have a correct grammatical function and written in proper punctuation.
- The idea/opinion must be reasonable, unique, and factual.
- The idea/opinion has value or something informative.
- It must be better presenting data or enclosing information sources.
Besides making threads or replies, we can do other things: - Help others. When people asking about information related to forum, exchanges, wallet, or etc
- Report spammers, merit abusers, or bounty cheaters
* The list above is created based on my own opinion. If you have others, you can add it to your lists. Back to the progress of my account, I really hope it can reach the Full member at the beginning this year. So, I'm trying my best to make more good posts. I am sure sooner or later my account will move on to the next level. And I will still do efforts to go to higher levels. I trust I can, and nothing is impossible to reach. Finally, I want to invite all newbies/Juniors to stop complaining about the merit system and better start trying to improve your post quality. As many people have proven it, I believe we can do it as well. The point is keeping the best efforts, both making good posts and help others. Good luck for us!!
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This is a simple guide I've created to eradicate the mentality of being rushed to receive bounty money for some beginners here. -snip-
on your OP. You clearly stated that this guide is meant for bounty hunters
I agree with Coin_trader, the first sentence clearly refers to bounty hunters or the beginners who rush to follow bounty programs. You are better to revise this sentence if you have no intention to make it specific for the bounty hunters only. Anyway, the roadmap's goal seems to be an investment. It contradicts the first sentence. It looks like un-matched and doesn't support one another. -snip- there will be new problems caused by lack of information in this forum. That's why guidelines should always exist here. -snip-
Are you sure we have a lack of information? And we have already had some guides/rules, right? Some basic guide/rules/tips: 1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0 2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.03. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.04. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.05. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1629118.06. etc We have also guide/rules/tips on each local board. So, I don't think we have a lack of information. And the basic guide/rules/tips have already created as well. For me, a newbie can find out everything if he/she is not lazy. He/she can use the search feature/ google custom search to know everything about bitcointalk forum.
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I think I've seen a gas station that accepts crypto but it's offshore that was posted here before and I can barely remember where that could be.
So, you saw it in real life? Not from reading an article/news? Once you found it, just post the picture or the link source if you got it from an article. I am curious to know it since it never happened in my country. it's not safe to buy gas with while online in your phone when paying crypto on the gas station.
It is easy to get a solution. Just make a payment place at the entrance of the gas station. So, you will pay before you go in. Actually, I don't focus on this side, but how the implementation of crypto payment can be approved by the governments. It is more complicated than discussing the payment technical.
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So what is Next currency to use? Its a euro?
Not really sure to answer this question, it should be very debatable. Everyone will argue based on their respective regions. Europen people must state Euro and Asian people may claim an Asian currency association. And what is the safe asset? I Think its not Gold and its not Property either
Why not gold or property? Do you want to say Bitcoin or other digital assets? Or you want to consider some best performing commodities: https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-btc-tops-all-other-commodities-in-returns-for-2019/However, for me, the safest options are still gold or property. They have stable values and even rising from time to time.
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-snip-
Yes. And it means the birth of Bitcoin. The first time Bitcoin was created. I think it is time to say: Happy birthday, Bitcoin. You have been 11 years and continues to exist among various good/bad issues about you. I believe you are unstoppable and will be there lasting. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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-snip- there's no such thing as 100% anonymity. A slight error in covering tracks, could expose your identity within the mainstream world. -snip-
Yes, it is true. But no error can be found so far, right? Even many people try to analyze it in various ways, no one can find convincing clues. This means 100% anonymity is proven so far. -snip- If he/she is still alive, governments would be on his/her tail to put him/her in jail or even pay a hefty sum of taxes. -snip-
Are you sure to call Satoshi, "he/she"? Don't you want to add "they"? How if Satoshi is an identity of a group of people? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) As long as Bitcoin is unregulated by any country, I think Satoshi has no responsibility to pay taxes. Moreover, governments cannot imprison people without strong reasons, now what is the convincing reason for imprisoning Satoshi? Illegal business? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Mohon maaf sebelum OP, saya pernah mendapatkan tread dengan topik seperti ini di tread luar,
namun memiliki pertanyaan yang sama persisi dengan peforma komoditas terbaik tahun ini.
Thread yang sama? pertanyaan sama? Apakah saya punya pertanyaan yang diajukan ke pembaca di atas? Bisa jadi ada thread yang sama, karena sama sumber artikel. Tapi saya pastikan saya tidak copy-paste thread orang. Tolong agan kasih linknya, link thread yang agan pernah baca di luar tersebut, biar saya tambahkan untuk link terkait di atas. entah yang membuat postingan ini dengan satu akun atau dengan akun yang berbeda
Saya tidak membuat thread serupa di board luar. Kalo ada berarti itu yang buat orang lain. Tetapi perlu diingat, jika dibandingkan dengan komoditas-komoditas lain (yg ada di list tersebut), Bitcoin juga memiliki tingkat volatilitas yang paling tinggi.
Setuju gan, makanya di atas saya tegaskan dengan keterangan : resiko investasi Bitcoin terbilang tinggi. Terima kasih gan untuk tambahan penjelasan tentang resiko investasi pada Bitcoin.
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I haven´t heard about these platforms.
Same with me, I just know it and I'm surprised that OP said those are top 3 crypto marketplace. So doubtful for me, it seems the writer only used Alexa traffic ranking to determine them. Or actually the writer only intended to promote that marketplace. There is a lot of mass media paid to promote crypto projects, so it is quite difficult to trust on that news.
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Unfortunatly, while you are hodling, you dont have any profits. To get them you should find right date for selling.
That's why sometimes we need other ways to get profits. I mean not only holding, but we can also try trading to earn regular profits. Holding is mostly intended for a long term investment. It should take for months/years. Surely, we won't hold forever, there is a time to trade assets.
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