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5521  Other / Archival / Re: I'm really leaving the U.S. for a 3rd world country because of politics on: January 23, 2020, 08:14:42 AM
sold silly string
5522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Virginia Governor Issues SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS to TAKE TOTAL POWER..." on: January 23, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
What is important is the headline is sensational of course. This is not something literally every media outlet does, no of course not. These insane power grabbing laws introduced are secondary to the fact you don't like the way the headline was written. Gotta have priorities and focus on the important bits right?

Not only was the headline sensational and false but the content of the story was false as well. What else is there to focus on? Regardless, what you consider to be "insane power grabbing laws" have already been enacted in several other states.

5523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week on: January 23, 2020, 03:41:18 AM
Side topic discussion about Antonio Brown -

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/01/21/antonio-brown-and-trainer-battery-with-burglary/


Dude is actually fucking crazy. Mike Tomlin put up with his antics long enough with the Steelers and Bill Belichick was having absolutely none of it and dropped his ass immediately. Now with no contract he practically worthless as a player at this point with the drama baggage if he were to play for a team. It's going to be hard for any team to pick him up and take a gamble on Brown. Such a shame, he was one of greatest receivers in the game and had every opportunity to win a championship when he was picked up by the Patriots. He's had rape allegations, one for which he's getting sued for, and now there might be a warrant out for his arrest for assault/battery. The greatest waste of talent I have ever seen in modern NFL history. RIP "Mr. Big Chest's" career.

Reading the story led me down a rabbit hole of his previous "incidents" and watching a series of TMZ videos on the subject. The one he filmed of police intervening in a dispute between him and his wife is seriously cringe-worthy. He's saying awful things about her in front of their child, which goes to show how little respect he has for anyone except for himself. Then bringing race into it, calling a bag of gummy goldfish "a bag of dicks"... the guy was nearly having a mental breakdown. He also said "fuck the NFL" during the video. I doubt he has serious plans to return.
5524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Virginia Governor Issues SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS to TAKE TOTAL POWER..." on: January 23, 2020, 03:22:39 AM
No references? Where did you get that list? Oh right, the list referenced in the article.

That's just a list of bills. The article contains zero references to back up its claims of the governor issuing a "secret executive order." When the phrase "snuck through" is used, it always means that a bill was passed in a sneaky manner -- not that was introduced in a sneaky manner, which none of these bills were anyway. That's why its fake news.

How can a governor "sneak" bills through a state congress anyway? By using a "secret executive order"? He can't, and he didn't. You like to talk about "burden of proof" quite a bit, and in this case the burden of proof is on you to show that a "secret executive order" was issued. Even if it was (it wasn't), it sure wasn't very effective, as all of the bills are yet to be passed.
5525  Economy / Reputation / Re: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 23, 2020, 03:06:50 AM
if quickseller had ever stolen money or actually achieved a long con, these low standards for evidence might be acceptable. in truth, people are only taking that line because quickseller showed himself to be an unhinged, sociopathic pain in the fucking ass (which is the true reason he fell from grace, not "forensic linguistics" or "self-escrow")---not because there is truly any moral justification. they are transparently just lynch mobbing because they hate quickseller. as TECSHARE notes, "scambusting" is the perfect veneer to engage in such behavior:

It seems to me like you're purposefully overlooking the obvious (that PN7 is the same person as QS) in order to play lawyer and cast a shadow of a doubt. That's fine, and I do appreciate dissenting opinions, but as I said in the beginning this isn't a court of law. We're not convicting anybody of anything here, and no sentences are being handed out. Therefore, I don't need to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. If you continue to insist they are not the same person, feel free to leave him a neutral or positive feedback or whatever you need to do to let other forum members know that I am wrong.

I stand by my initial assertion:

Each piece of evidence on its own does not mean anything, but when all are taken together as a whole (everything, not just the linguistic comparisons), anybody should be able to reasonably conclude that QS and PN7 are the same person.

If you disagree, that's fine, and I can live with that.
5526  Other / Off-topic / CuckCoin: Bot-driven white paper abstract creation. on: January 22, 2020, 04:25:48 PM
I fed the text of over 1,000 ICO white paper abstracts into a neural network-based English speech simulation bot while having it scour the web for popular trending terms, and forced it to come up with its own ICO white paper abstract. This was the result.


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5527  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2020, 02:59:19 PM
(I know backing up is for coward pussies but still I beg to differ)

i know what an idiot i am. thus, like a squirrel who buries nuts all over the place, i count on at least finding one good backup somewhere.

in all seriousness though the rule of 3s (i think its called) 3 backups on 2 different media, one of which is offsite. and i dont count "the cloud" as any of those.

i do rolling backups so they go back quiet a ways.

Forgive me if I've droned on about it in this thread before, but one time I had a laptop stolen with wallets for anywhere between $15k and $40k worth of coins. This was in 2015. During the peak of the bull run it was closer to $200k.

I did make a backup indeed; however, my backup was on a USB stick contained in the laptop case, which was also stolen.  Roll Eyes I can look up my coin addresses in their respective block explorers, and see my balances just sitting there, laughing at me.

I guess the moral of the story is, don't keep your backups all in one place, and yes, the offsite idea is a good one. There's no shame in burying your nuts in different places.
5528  Economy / Reputation / Re: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 22, 2020, 12:29:16 PM
@nutildah almost everything in my last post went right over your head. Undecided

Its not just me. Apparently you went over everybody's heads.

the OP admitted he lacked proof but wanted to make the accusation anyway, just to see if it would develop into the downfall of PrimeNumber7

Not at all. Its because I want people to be aware that evidence of the connection exists. If I wanted to actively contribute to his downfall I would have neg tagged him.
5529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Virginia Governor Issues SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS to TAKE TOTAL POWER..." on: January 22, 2020, 10:34:20 AM
What does "total power" mean anyway?

It doesn't mean anything. Its part of a sensationalist headline by a fake news site that exists only to inflame right wing NPCs. It needs more exclamation points at the end of it. I'm not sold on just the 1.

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While everyone was watching the gun bills, the Virginia governor snuck through these communist bills

Didn't happen. No proof, no references, just a claim that that's what happened. None of these bills have been passed. Fake news at its basest.

From https://lis.virginia.gov/

SB 399 Presidential electors; National Popular Vote Compact.
01/07/20  Senate: Referred to Committee on Privileges and Elections

SJ 29 Constitutional amendment (first resolution); election of the Governor, Lieutenant Governor.
01/21/20  Senate: Stricken at request of Patron in Privileges and Elections

SJ 14 Constitutional amendment (first resolution); qualifications of voters; restoration of civil rights.
01/21/20  Senate: Continued to 2021 in Privileges and Elections (15-Y 0-N)

SJ 8 Constitutional amendment; qualifications of voters and the right to vote.
01/21/20  Senate: Continued to 2021 in Privileges and Elections (15-Y 0-N)

SB 65 Voter identification; repeal of photo identification requirements.
11/21/19  Senate: Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/08/20

SJ 6 Constitutional amendment; Governor's term of office.
01/21/20  Senate: Continued to 2021 in Privileges and Elections (15-Y 0-N)

Total Fail.
5530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week on: January 22, 2020, 05:19:02 AM
By looking at the stats above one can quickly discern that the 9ers lead in 3 of the four offensive stats, and 3 of the four defensive stats.  It also becomes apparent the Chiefs are really good at passing the ball, while the 9ers are THE BEST at stopping the passing game.  But one needs to ask the obvious question; what can the Chiefs do if the 9ers are successful at stopping Mahomes?

That's really what mattered to me most in my ad hoc analysis -- does SF have the defense to stop the KC passing game. It seems like they probably do. Also interestingly, the SF offense beats the KC offense in terms of conference raking (#4 in total yards and #2 in points scored vs. Chiefs being #6 and #7 in those categories, respectively).

The 9ers have another interesting stat going for them, probably only matters if you are superstitious:

Quote
Over the past 15 Super Bowls, the team rocking white tops has won an incredible 13 times.

https://sports.yahoo.com/super-bowl-54-why-49ers-201020893.html

I've changed the poll. Its the last poll of the season!  Cry

Super Bowl 54

02/02 6:30 PM
Hard Rock Stadium, Miami Gardens, Florida

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
vs.
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

The line currently has KC at -1, but the poll is for the outright winner.

Let's hear some counterpoints on why peeps (if anyone) thinks KC will win.
5531  Economy / Reputation / Re: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 22, 2020, 04:43:27 AM
you apparently can't imagine a plausible situation where PrimeNumber7 and Quickseller aren't the same person.

Personally speaking, this is correct. Having been on the forum for as long as I have, understanding the dynamics of certain personalities and being able to recognize forum-specific linguistic patterns leads me to believe they are absolutely the same person.

and yet, you can't articulate why they must be the same person.

No, because admittedly I did not deliver absolute proof of anything. It is simply evidence which I believe any rationally-minded person could use to conclude that in all likelihood they are the same person.

this is the logic of your claim: "so few people on the forum use these terms that anyone who does use them must be the same person". you see how that's fallacious/circular reasoning, right? it's not self-evident.
Not at all. I'm saying that nobody uses all of those terms except for them.

and from there, you conclude that they must be the same person. if you are not trying to make that claim, i suggest changing the thread title. Roll Eyes

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. There's a big difference between what you think I said and what I actually said. I made a hypothesis ("PN7 is Quickseller") and am backing it with evidence.

for you to say that Quickseller and PrimeNumber7 are the same physical person using linguistic analysis is an extraordinary claim. that means they are the only person in the world who exhibits these (supposedly definitive) linguistic patterns.

Again, I'm only talking about people on the forum. Don't know why you keep conflating it to mean the entire world.

the existence of 2 forum accounts fitting that criteria doesn't prove that. it merely proves that 2 forum accounts share a number of linguistic similarities.

Correct -- again, I'm not talking about absolute proof. I said that in the OP.

you're literally including idiomatic expressions in your data but excluding correct usage of those expressions where they don't suit your claim. you are just showcasing how this is an exercise in cherry picking.

The entire basis of the analysis is based on words used by Quickseller. Including those not used by Quickseller makes no sense. Again, I don't think you understand what I am doing at a fundamental level.

Like I said in the OP, you're free to come to your own conclusions. But if you continue to misinterpret my analysis I will continue to correct your misunderstandings.
5532  Economy / Reputation / Re: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 21, 2020, 05:22:37 PM
I would just say move on to both sides but I don't think either will be wiling to do so so this sort of tit-for-tat will likely continue on for ever.

Believe it or not I don't really have much skin in the game. PN7 said nobody had any evidence to present, so I presented it.

Are you Suchmoon?

No.

Why would you think we are the same person?
Well let’s be clear that you are not doing this and this isn’t any of your research.

I'm not doing it? Who's doing it then? Most of it is my research, but not all. Suchmoon and now hilarious have chimed in with stuff I didn't think of or couldn't have thought of.

Regardless of who did what, it doesn't change the fact that you are Quickseller.
5533  Economy / Reputation / Re: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 21, 2020, 04:50:42 PM
Quote
I feel like you are failing to grasp what I am doing at a fundamental level
Are you Suchmoon?

No.

Why would you think we are the same person?
5534  Economy / Reputation / Re: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 21, 2020, 04:35:31 PM
take this extreme example: two red blooded murrrican hicks from north carolina (go panthers!) join an internet forum mostly comprised of brits/euros. these two share several linguistic similarities/phrases and worldviews in common because of their southern hick upbringing. to the rest of the forum, they both stick out like a sore thumb. are they the same person?

I feel like this is a trick question. You said they were "two red blooded murrrican hicks", so obviously they aren't the same person.

this is the logic of your claim: "so few people on the forum use these terms that anyone who does use them must be the same person".

Not at all. I'm saying that nobody uses all of those terms except for them.

common general usage makes it difficult to rule out coincidences in your narrow data set. see above.

How are you deciding what is common versus what is uncommon? Because a big number appears next to the number of Google search results? Thats even less scientific than what me and suchmoon are doing.

expressions/idioms are also tricky because you should be capturing all forms, otherwise you're not truly representing their prevalence. eg for "sow discord" you should be including users like:

That's not the phrase used by Quickseller, so why would I care about that? "All forms" aren't relevant, only those used by Quickseller. I feel like you are failing to grasp what I am doing at a fundamental level.
5535  Economy / Reputation / Re: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 21, 2020, 09:04:49 AM
Let's dissect a couple of these assertions as I think its inaccurate to say I am presenting evidence in "bad faith."

"underlying root cause" is actually a common expression, probably because "underlying" is part of the definition of "root cause".
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%22underlying+root+cause%22

First of all, we're talking about "common expression" as in common on the forum; not what is yielded as a Google search result. On the forum, there's exactly 8 instances of "maximum benefit of the doubt" that can be found, 4 belong to QS and 1 belongs to PN7. Not exactly a "common expression."

"to sow discord" is also a common english expression:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%22sow+discord%22

there are tens of thousands of examples of people on news sites, twitter, etc saying "maximum benefit of the doubt"

Yet on the forum, there's only 13 accounts that have ever used that phrase, and 2 of them are QS/PN7. 13 users out of thousands.

None of the examples provided are "common", though some are more common than others.
5536  Economy / Reputation / Re: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 21, 2020, 05:21:27 AM
Interesting spelling mistakes, I always thought QuickSeller was a native English speaker.

Yes, he is, and that's the point: if you're not an American English native speaker its a bit harder to judge what phrases and misspellings are common versus uncommon.

i bet if you parse through years of my posts, you'll find a few misspellings i've shared in common with probably a bunch of other forum accounts. i really don't find that conclusive at all.

But will you find all of those shared with QS/PN7? Would you even find more than 3 of the 9 examples provided? There's a big difference in odds between guessing 3 correct numbers in a lottery and 4.

There's a pool of users for each individual phrase/word/mistake. The odds of a user residing in a pool with another user go down considerably when filtered by subsequent pools. The pools vary in size from containing liberally 1/8th of all forum users (probably closer to 1/20th, hence they are all "uncommon") to 1/50th, 1/100th or even lower.

Let's just say all pools contain 1/8th of all active forum members for the sake of argument: by the 5th example, you're down to 1 in 32,768 members. And if you cross-reference this with the sections they post in and their total number of posts, it further narrows down the remaining list of members by a considerable degree (perhaps less than a handful).

This Venn diagram example isn't perfect as it would require 3-dimensions and circles of unequal sizes to more accurately portray the overlap of users and words, but it demonstrates the decreasing amount of chance users have with residing in areas of large amounts of overlapping circles.



Quickseller resides in the very center of this diagram. The number of users who fall into all 8 circles (share the same 8 phrase/misspelling similarities) is extremely small. As a matter of fact, I would contend that he only shares it with PrimeNumber7, but I'm welcome to be proven wrong.

Why does it all matter?

I would absolutely find a similar analysis yielding similar results to be valid comparing any two forum members, regardless of their reputation. However, I would only consider it worth publishing on the forum if one of them had a multi-year reputation of being deceitful, dishonest and harmful to other members.

You should only trust PN7 as much as you would trust QS.
5537  Economy / Reputation / PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 on: January 20, 2020, 04:56:32 PM
The first thread on this subject is kind of a dumpster fire so I thought I'd open a new one to present more compelling evidence. While I haven't found any blockchain evidence linking Quickseller to PrimeNumber7 (didn't look into it much TBH), they do share a number of linguistic similarities, most notably of which are quirks in their writing style, spelling habits, and usage of relatively uncommon phrases.

Here are a few examples of unique misspellings shared by both accounts:

- "passphraise"

Major HW wallet implementations allow for users to use a passphraise as the last word in their seed, and can potentially have multiple passphraises that create multiple seeds.

When you setup your trezors you will want to use an encryption passphraise in addition to the seed that is created (you may want to actually create two encryption passphraises on top of the same seed -- more on this later).

- "immidiately"

The losses exceed the trading volume of Clam during the flash crash, so it is probably safe to assume not all positions were sold immidiately. If no Clams were sold, and their value was written down to zero, as few as 21% of Clams outsanding could have been in open positions. I would believe that Poloniex sold the open Clams positions they were unable to sell in the open market, probably at a fairly large discount.

Further, the time frame that Hhampuz spent the money is not constant with what one would expect. Assuming the BestMixer operators have not been arrested, recovering ~$4,300 in advertising expenses is probably low on their list of priorities immidiately after the government shut down their business.  

- "boarder"

The chances of your electronic device being searched at the boarder is low.

I don't see anything about New Zealand in the link you posted, and the link is an article about the US boarder protection agents searching phones/laptops when they enter the US.

- "Rodger Ver"

Rodger Ver tweeted that since sanctions are an act of War, the US should immediately drop all sanctions against NK, as he sees war as universally evil.

Perhaps Rodger Ver will respond with his own arguments and any one can come to their own conclusions.  

- "monitory"

This sounds like a sure fire way to corrupt the merit sources and change merit from being a reward for making posts the forum needs more of to something with monitory value.  

Until this happens, it is most likely that deposits and withdrawals will not be processed due to the high risk of monitory loss.

Here's some uncommon words/phrases being used by both accounts, many of which are used by QS on more than one occasion:

- "underlying root cause"

The underlying root cause problem with college is the government is willing to subsidize the cost of college for all students, regardless of their ability to repay, or the value of the program they are taking, in nearly unlimited amounts.

This in large part can be attributed to the Default Trust changes implemented this past January, but the underlying root cause of the problem is a very small number of people leaving a very large number of controversial ratings.

- "sow discord"

The intent of the Russian interference was not even to benefit Trump, it was to sow discord within the US.

Ironically, the reported goals of the 2016 Russian meddling was to sow discord in US politics, which those on the Left are gladly furthering, probably to the point that their behavior is resulting in much greater discord than Russia could have even hoped for.

- "maximum benefit of the doubt"

I prefer to give maximum benefit of the doubt, but I cannot see any circumstances in which it would be a good idea to invest in this.

The above also gives the maximum benefit of the doubt to merit sources, that I don't think is necessarily appropriate to give all of them.

- Odd use of the word "transparently"

They are all transparently the same person today.

Suchmoon is transparently one of the people who is reporting plagiarized posts

It's true that just one of these examples on its own isn't really evidence or proof of anything, as it's quite possible other users engage in the same habits. However, the chances of 2 random users sharing all of these quirks and traits is exceedingly slim and can only mean that PN7 and QS are the same people. There are likely to be several more similarities that weren't pointed out above.

In addition to these examples, other similarities between QS and PN7 include:

- their political stance (both hard right Republicans)
- they tend to frequent the same sections (Meta, Reputation, Politics & Society)
- they both care a lot about signature campaigns
- they both are highly knowledgeable about the inner-workings of the forum, and
- they both mention or interact with theymos relatively often.

As a matter of fact, PN7's very first post was about theymos:

theymos accepting Grin is symbolic more than anything.

Grin doesn't appear to be accepted for ad auction payments, which leaves payments for Copper memberships and proxy bans (I am unsure if the later accepts payment via Grin).

There are less than 680 copper members wearing their copper membership title. The payments for these memberships could fit into one Bitcoin block, and the copper membership has been available for years.

What kind of a newbie mentions theymos and copper membership statistics in their first post??

He also really knows how to work merits out of people, which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing as it means he is contributing at least something to some people under that moniker. He seems quite pleased with himself, as he wanted to nominate himself as "Newbie of the Year" recently, and is really looking forward to becoming a Hero Member.

Short of attempting to escrow for himself again, I think this is enough evidence to reasonably ascertain that they are indeed the same person. If you're not a native English speaker (and an American one at that), then it may be more difficult to judge just how uncommon certain words, phrases and misspellings are, and equally how unlikely it is that they would all be shared by 2 random people.

Disclaimers: no need to bring up the obvious that this is not absolute, stone-cold proof of anything, as I know that already. You're of course allowed to come to your own conclusion, but please spare the "unjustly tried and convicted" mantra I can already feel coming. This is not a court of law and we are not judges; just observers on a forum.

Also, this is not all my own work, as some of this evidence was provided to me by various sources who wish to remain unaccredited for the time being.
5538  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OneCoin: The Biggest Scam Crypto Scam Ever? on: January 20, 2020, 02:38:03 PM
I was just browsing through old ANNs to randomly bump to the top of the page (admittedly I'm a bit bored at the moment), and I found the first announcement for OneCoin:

OneCoin-The New CryptoCurrency That Will OverPass Bitcoin

Its locked so I can't bump it unfortunately, but it had already been pointed out as a Ponzi scam 3 months earlier by BehindMLM... Over 1,300 comments underneath the article.

One of the comments in the ANN thread says,

Quote
...  in 5 years from now probably no one will remember this coin

Well, they were wrong!  Cheesy

No need to harass the thread creator and OneCoin promoter... he is an active account, but it probably changed hands sometime through the years... Maybe he locked it after realizing it was a Ponzi scheme.
5539  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2020, 01:21:33 PM
My http://wallobserver.tk/ site shows the posts as they were within a few seconds after creation. Now that the site is mentioned again: does anyone even use it? The domain is valid for another 8 months, after that it will expire (there's no way I'm going to pay by CC).

That's a cool website that I forgot existed. I reckon we can just pull them out of your post archive if need be. I did it to look at a post in this thread last week as a matter of fact.

Edit: oh, and would you look at that, I didn't even have time to correct my embarrassing URL mistake before it was scraped.

http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5365/53655480.html
5540  Economy / Reputation / Re: TMAN False Feedback on: January 20, 2020, 11:26:48 AM
False calculations, yet again another lie.

Funny how all those "supporters" are showing dust transactions at best, while CryptoSparks keeps boasting about a 900 BTC bankroll and a waiting list.

Just for fun I checked in with the Telegram group and found this beauty:



which is obviously BS because most people are still sitting on a 30-50% loss since December. He didn't have any fantastic trades in December or January, yet his graph shows that he did. This is what trading looks like in actuality, since cryptosparks opened the API key for viewing in September:



Mind you, most people didn't get involved until Oct-Dec, which is why they are sitting on losses much greater than 16%. In short, the two pictures just don't match. The top one is pure manipulation, the bottom is the reality of the situation. He completely misrepresented his services, and these misrepresentations were vigorously defended by FruitBaskets... Negative tags are valid.
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