People are forgetting that the person who said bitcoin will be $20-$25k (which I am not saying won't happen) is the guy who is in charge of everyone's money being in bitcoin.

If that dude came out and said "bitcoin will go down to $3k" then all of his customers will want their money back, he is responsible of many peoples money being in bitcoin which means he needs bitcoin to go up in order to make a profit so that he could share his profits with the customers and get a share of it himself as well, bitcoin going down would be horrible for his business.

So, we are talking about a guy who has an incentive for bitcoin to go up so he says it will go up, he is basically looking for more customers while saying it. That is why I don't trust him and I don't trust his instincts. Having said that, I think what he said could still come out to be true.

Regulations that only affect one nation (even tho it is as big as USA) doesn't affect us, it affects the whales. Do you really think the guy with 1000 dollars in bitcoin cares about the regulations, no he doesn't and considering there are few whales and even fewer in USA that means we are talking about a very very very small minority here with SEC. So I feel like SEC has nothing to do with bull being slower.

You know what is causing the bull to be more rare and happens very slowly? The drops that after the bull run. So far anytime bitcoin went up, it plummeted back to very low numbers which is why when bitcoin is going up people are afraid of keep buying and they try to either hold or sell when it goes too much high because they know it may go down very fast if they end up holding a bag.

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^^ Yeah, when you gamble long enough you see that kind of results all the time, I have seen similar to this on bustabit as well, it is always weird how crash games sometimes goes bunkers, it is not common and it doesn't happen every day but when there is a bet going on for that long and its thousands of bets every single day, one has to be that high in order to equal the average to 1 luck, if there were not any games that end up that high it wouldn't be on average making people money (the patient people).

I know people who gamble just 100x out, so anything under 100 they lose money, they wait for that one big win. You can't have these kinds of stuff on roulette that easily, those are specific odds that will not change.

There could be better ways and we could both have bitcoin being loved by the governments while the governments are not being at war against each other but that doesn't mean that this is not working out for us.

Bitcoin hasn't been high for too long now but governments will eventually look at it in a way that they could cut the losses in between and go to source directly, that means eventually there would be governments who will use blockchain to their own benefit which would show the world bitcoin which is based on blockchain is a good investment and create some sort of high adoption increase which in return will increase the price.

We just have to wait for it but of course politics change insanely fast so what is good for us right now could be scrapped and rewritten just tomorrow and we wouldn't be shocked.

It doesn't matter if bitcoin is not 16k right now, I feel like there are 2 more predictions in there that says 35 - 66k in 2020 and 236k in 2021, those are what we should be talking about.

Even the 16k when predicted was insane because there was 1.5 months left and he still said 16k even with that much small time, I think that was obvious even then it wouldn't happen anyway. Long story short I would say looking at the 2021 outcome is more in our favor because 2019 is already done like this, 2020 is going to be something that is indecisive but a whole year could bring so much, 2021 is the real year where we can't really say it would be worse, I mean it is literally 2 years away, how could we say that bitcoin could be worse in 2 years, I doubt that would be the case.

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I think 2020 has its own right to be one of the biggest bull years we have ever seen in entire history of bitcoin. Now think about it, which year have we ever managed to start with over 7 thousand dollars? I am not talking about a 7 thousand dollars that is high up neither, it is a 7 thousand dollars we "dropped down to" as well, which means we are trying to find a bottom and right now bottom looks like it could be 7 thousand dollars or whereabouts.

A whole new year, with 7 thousand dollars as the bottom has never happened before. Hell in 2017 when we reached 20 thousand the bottom was a thousand dollars or even less, so this is seriously a high advantage. We don't have to go to high places, it is not a must, but it does have that huge advantage right now at least.

In 2015 and 2016, people kept asking about reaching $1000 and when bitcoin was able to reach that mark by the 2nd day of 2017, most of them had sold out their bitcoins and went back to their routine works by assuming their mission-bitcoin was successful. I still remember a post in earnmoneyspace forum which reads similar to this : I bought bitcoins for $400 and sold for $650 and that's all. He must be a happy person in 2013 and must have been a happiest person in 2015 but definitely not by end of 2017 if he had not bought back during 2016 at least.

I mean to say, when I do see new people who asks about 2017, I like to answer them, bitcoin will perform better than 2017 too and if bitcoin will be able to reach $20k again, it will indicate it may keep growing toward $30k and $40k and so on... So, do not set your targets around $20k for all your bitcoins. But, you may sell few at your first target which might be around $20k but keep some bitcoins to sell around $1000k which may occur within 2025.

^^ Yeah, the announcement was made during that day as well, it is awesome that 3 years has gone so great for bitdice. There are tons of casinos that start and either scam people or they just simply fail and so forth, there has been ton of places that both failed and realized they won't make money so they scammed people in return so forth.

Bitdice has overcome the odds and became one of the most successful ones (I don't know how much profit they are making honestly) and they have been doing it steadily for 3 years which I assume if you can run a casino for 3 years there is no reason why it won't turn into forever, they must have made enough money to save aside for even the biggest of whales winning a ton of money, so I assume this was a breaking point to being a great casino forever.

Just because a place has bugs doesn't mean that you shouldn't even test their website, specially when they are literally giving you free money to test their place at this stage. Depositing is something you should do with your own caution to any website of course but at the same time not testing the free stuff is a bit idiotic when there is literally nothing you could possibly lose.

There are bugs but like mentioned many times before it is not game changing horrible bugs, it is just a bit unpleasing ones and I am sorry but for someone like me who plays Fifa and Nba 2k which makes MILLIONS of dollars every year even they do have a ton of bugs, coding is not that simple and sometimes brings out bugs when games are involved. I would personally still suggest this website to everyone with the minor bugs they have.

There is no scenario where freebitcoin doesn't pay up, they have paid probably THOUSANDS of bitcoin so far to their faucet claimers, (don't know the real number but I think it is possible with how old they are and how little bitcoin price used to be) so all in all this place already gave out - FOR FREE- hundreds of lambo if you calculate just the free faucet part.

Considering they give out free lottery tickets and free reward points and many other stuff, they have probably given even way more than that. In return? They have 5% house edge... that's it, that's all there is to it, they don't get your money in any other way, just make you gamble with 5% house edge versus %1. If you want to be suspicious about a website, you should at least do your own research.

Altcoin industry works this way. You must be ready to risk all your 100% of capital here unlike what bitcoin investments require. IEO is just a new version of ICO and expecting those exchanges to filter-out scammers is really a wrong assumptions from investors' side. Some crypto people speculate like 99% of altcoins will bite dust like will hit zero value over the time. This is because altcoins are getting their value from bitcoins and when bitcoin is finding its up-trend, altcoins are falling. So, if bitcoin will rise up in future then altcoin may value in single digit to zero satoshi.

I guess most crypto adopters might have alright realized about the "season", that is the reason we are seeing altcoins are getting dumped even bitcoin prices are trading relatively stable. I am too afraid of my altcoin stash but I believe out of 25+ coins and tokens, if at least 2 to 5 coins survive and find pumping, I guess I will be able to recover my capital, let's wait what time is having to unfold for all of us.

I think selling the rig is only a good plan if you do not plan to use it. If you want to use the rig there is no point of selling it, if you don't want to use it then whats the point of a rig staying in your basement not being used and collecting dust?

Literally selling it and spending the money on movies or netflix subscription is more valuable than letting it rot in a storage somewhere.

I would totally still use it, it is both helping the ecosystem being faster and cheaper, plus it is also making you some money, maybe it is not profitable but it is still has a revenue that is lesser than the cost so if you can eat the difference you could potentially make a profit in the long run while you are helping the ecosystem yourself. Hopefully you will use it, but if you don't want to use it definitely sell it.

I think bitcoin going down before the new year is a good sign for us. It shows that bitcoin is bottoming out eventually and when it finds the bottom it will definitely go up and when it goes up we will make as much money as the hype allows us to. It is not going to be easy, it is going to eat a lot of our money and our sanity while it is being done but at the end we will be able to make some profit out of this.

2020 should be doing a lot better than 2019, the year 2019 started horribly at around 3.5 thousand dollars and peaked almost at 14 thousand dollars, of course there was a big fall (only like half and not even that) but that is due to people taking out their profits, if we end up with slowly increasing prices on top of this (which is double of $3.5k of last years) we may even challenge the ATH prices.

So, you will connect me to one of the above exchanges from your portal?
It means do I need to provide you access through API or some browser extensions? I guess no trader here will be preferring that.

I read some margin trading platforms are providing meta trader kind of stand-alone portal which are known for rich functionality in terms of trading tools and indicators and also they are known for secured access to our capital as that is exchange provided.

I will not prefer any third party tool which requires my exchange's API key/password or anything relevant to that.

What are the limitations for this demo accounts? I do see "Get 2 weeks full access TraderBox for free". After 2 weeks, what are your fees?

Well, that would be good if you have friends that use binance and want to exchange money between accounts but seriously for just a regular old long term investor like me it doesn't feel like it would make too much of a difference. Sure, I get paid for my work and if binance did something like that maybe it would turn into easier work and less fees and so forth but for me I would have to send it to my local exchange and turn it into fiat anyway so it won't make a HUGE difference to me.

Maybe one day it could possibly change something for someone but to me this is not really that critical. If it was that important right now there would have been pages and pages of discussions about how awesome it is, there is not and hence why its not really THAT important, its not a "must" have, its "good to" have for us.

We all always need some "tonic" for pumping new investors into bitcoin markets. I guess the reasons you have mentioned will be more than enough catalysts to do that. Negative interest rates definitely push people to find a new store of value or interest gaining opportunities after gold. Bitcoin halving is known for triggering huge demand due to less supply. Political instability is a through out year incident across the globe hence it may or may not produces significant impacts into bitcoin markets.

Except the first quarter of 2019, I believe bitcoin managed to have decent prices levels in 2019 itself unlike how it performed in 2018. Compared to 2018, we enjoyed a bullish year in 2019 so far. Hence, it will be easy speculation about 2020 still only time will answer what we are going to have in actual .

Rich people just toy with us in the face of reality and they do not just manipulate the markets but somehow manipulate the feelings of people the emotions as well. Like they sell a ton of bitcoin and suddenly everyone starts to think that bitcoin is dying and it is on a bear run and we all stop buying bitcoin, they return and keep buying bitcoins so it goes up and they hype it up and we are suddenly all thinking it is going to all time high prices.

There is really no middleground because those people have enough money and influence and power to not just change the price of bitcoin but the emotions of all traders as well. Hopefully the "decentralized" nature of bitcoin will soon show its true power with all the trading and all and make bitcoin adopted big enough that it is not only a "way of making money" but just "money".

I understand whatever the reason would be they may want to stay hidden, yet that doesn't mean that everyone would have to deal with that as well. If you don't want to be known or heard, maybe you shouldn't be listed on the top 10 as well? No one says the hidden feature should leave, but the hidden feature should be disallowing you from entering a competition that the main purpose of is to show people is how much you gambled.

If you want to gamble a lot and be on a list then maybe you should agree that your name should be visible. If not then I am sorry but you should not be eligible to play. Of course, wolf.bet will not make the people who gamble the most be disallowed from the betting because they are the ones that make them money but that is what I think some of us think.