Comoros earned me some good coin in qualifications, too bad I wrote them off this tourney or would have scored on their upset. Just too random for me to bet on, but I do hope to see Senegal take a win today. Egypt value bet at over 3/1 you think?


Didn't even know this happened, no, and it's always senseless to me when it happens. I'm reading more now about other incidents too, it's no laughing matter for sure, am at a loss at how to punish organisers when this happens.


I actually never checked out the tax on sportsbetting here where I am, I do know that all the lotteries and other games of chance and casinos are all tax free winnings. But first time I ever heard of manipulative costs... back home it's a simple entertainment tax which you pay on top of your wager, and that's 10%, with winnings not taxable themselves (which is a better deal for the government I guess).

Like you, the only reason I still use regular books is they're much faster and better than crypto books atm for interface. I remember using William Hill almost 20 years ago (they actually sent a CD to my house good old days of no KYC and no country block haha and I remember even on dialup connection, smooth, but that's probably because you were only downloading data as the software was fully installed)... and then Betfair later on, and I still think they had the smoothest experience. SB comes pretty close I would say, except their search or filter function doesn't seem to be as good as anything else contemporary.

Nadal will want to convince everyone 4 hours definitely will have taken its toll on the man, but I feel like this just made him an even stronger contender. Not sure of the routes but does anyone know if he gets to meet Tsitsi if both get past QFs? That's still something I haven't quite figured out how to look for.


Definitely didn't disappoint. A bit surprised this didn't end up as an epic final set, but gotta give credit to the Canadian for showing up (albeit only to delay the inevitable).


I don't think even McEnroe would ever have used the word "corrupt" but yeah pretty grinworthy

@joker_josue actually it might surprise you even more to learn that PSG has never been in the top 3, not even pre-season as I recall, because I placed bets on City (the #1 favourite pre-season) and Liverpool, who were around 8/1 but still thought to be likelier winners than PSG. IIRC even Man Utd were ranked higher pre season, thanks to all their supposed literal purchase of champion material.

We actually discussed their odds 2 months ago in French Ligue 1 thread and it hasn't changed much then, except to oddly switch Chelsea above PSG after pretty bad performances from the Blues:

Ah yeah, the state leadership proving once more that they have a deep inability and unwillingness to fix real economic and fiscal problems, but who can blame them when laser eyes is the easy fix that wins you Twitter followers and influencer approval, yeah?

I hate to say it but more and more we're going to see a lot of banking people who can't wait to use El Salvador as teachable moment fodder. Wonder if Bukele will soon be on the phone calling up them Miami conference friends and getting their voicemail. I suppose they could always NFT their Twitter profiles.

Sorry guys, you're right. I don't know what I seen earlier but now I'm looking it is indeed 24 to 26/1. I was pretty damn sure I was looking at the right market though, cause I drafted a ticket (and I generally check on Fairlay or Betfair just to get a good idea of "fair" odds. BF is now 35/1. Funny your local bookies are always way better than crypto @Trofo, here there is only one legal bookie and their odds are Pinnacle-ish or worse. Wonder if they'd let me play? Haha. The one we have here is the worst ever. Never give promos, or if they do, it's maybe for 2 euros or something.

Sky was 66/1 I saw but it's a promo boost... only one guy I know in forum who uses them.

I still think those are odds too respectful of Comoros =p

But still, soon as it gets Super Boost on SB I'll try see if they give 30/1. And then do an acca with Liverpool v Chelski on it, why not?

Just saying... what?

By spending time reading the thread and keeping in touch with other players I guess? I know players from several sites who have threads on this forum and some of us don't even share usernames (I've only just shared it from the recent pages here). You don't need to know people from their usernames, but if they're talking about events and things that could only happen from actually playing at the site (like most of the shitposters don't), then you're an active user. How else would one know?

So if you have spent all this while knowing BV and never seen me post or share about my activities in BV, that's probably because the thread's been hijacked by irrelevant posts from non-users.

So tell me, even after all the crap Comoros has had to go through, after now knowing they have no keeper to put between the posts, their odds are STILL so shitty to bet on? 12/1 against Camebloodyroon... I'm so disgusted with the odds haha.

Anyway, sorry about Nigeria igehhh. I put them in my picks AND in 4-3-free but at least avoided adding them to my footie accas. Not that it matters, I haven't been winning anything special this week or last.

And yes, Trofo haha African holiday islands that aren't on the mainland are... pretty unique if you can actually get yourself a cheap ticket to go. I spent a couple of weeks in Seychelles and it was seriously pretty close to Asia in terms of lifestyle. But totally different types of waters and food.

@Yaunfitda yeah managed to tune in a little but work's a bit tough on Mondays so I'm going to have to wait till a bit later to see if I can catch it, but hopefully Tsitsi gets out of this intact before then.

Saw that Cilic, Halep, Mertens some of the bigger names out today (least to my eyes, not even sure if they two girls were the favourites in those matchups but didn't recognise their opponents).

Another 0-0 and this time I don't think we can blame poor quality players -- saw the teamsheet and it had plenty of firepower, and around HT I saw Milan did have 5 shots on goal, so we can blame Juventus for this one haha. Guess they didn't want to fight back from 3-1 again... Roma seemed to learn their lesson too, scoring 4 goals (and letting in 2). Surprised I actually got a close score from that one.

And yeah, one La Liga (Cadiz), one AFCON and a heck lot of Serie A games gone buggy on Superbru, as are still "Live". Premier League bug free weirdly enough.

Reporting in. Weird Sunday for me. Was earlier waking up to losses in less familiar territory (NFL) but also to this surprise news on the slight underdog win in UFC.

Even won a small outlay on this to go all the way, which it certainly did. My money had always been flagging on for Gane, but his odds kept improving, so the value for me did not, ended up pocketing some decent change on Ngannou, instead of withdrawing I now more than doubled that change (yay).

Did not at all see the lineups for any teams in Serie A (or to be perfectly honest, not even if it's not my team anymore). Last Atalanta game I watched was actually the one Zapata got injured... before the winter break, can't remember which team it was now. And they exploded with goals on the restart, so it was pretty normal to assume they'd go on and on, but I suppose you're right. No established names on the list, could have expected no goals.

Used to put a lot more thought into my predictions on Superbru but now I leave that to betting so if the team isn't in my picks then I put random scores in here (as I was saying in my previous post) trying to back the favourite, then the form, then the home team, then the draw if I can't really decide. It seems to have worked well so far and as I said, miss it like we all did Atalanta TWICE in a row now, and it's okay. Who's going to risk choosing a draw or loss next? Don't think those 1st teamers are coming back for next game.

Anyway, Milan to win and BTTS good value, right? My last bet of the night.

^speaking of Leicester choking. Wasn't injury time equaliser but still, pretty late and pretty lame.

Anyone watching Real? Came over right after Liverpool game and saw Vini had a great game as usual, keeper just too good. And then Benzema missing a penalty. All that hard work and one goal down, Elche can't possibly keep this advantage unless their keeper keeps his 1st half form.

@Pseudo-Random: Great point about the sigcampaigners, rare to acknowledge the situation yet also to note the shitposting of this thread to irrelevance for months. Only one or two of them I even know as active users at BV, and those guys actually not once shitposted here about LL. I actually think Zodiac/LL should commission a study to find if there's been any impact since pausing the campaign. My money's on that it actually improved after.

Hope you're well, curious what you've been up to.

I never quite understood that either, giving someone else money to invest in something you could easily do yourself for better rates. If it was about interest, BTC's volatility simply doesn't make sense for that model.

Fully expecting Saylor to be announcing doubling down or tripling down on buys at this bargain price... I mean he's got to not look like he changed his mind, assuming he's cut from that cloth like all wealthy people putting money where their mouth are.

@slaman Totally get the need for you to catch up but yeah man, haven't you been paying attention to all the talks that come up about Valencia every now and then and how they've lost us money time and time again? Haha but what a game it was too, though, wasn't it? I still don't enjoy Spanish football as much as English or even Italian (in recent seasons anyway) and you'd have to be a cynic to enjoy Atletico's style but it's still pleasurable to watch this kind of game at some point especially after drab EPL games.

Leicester and Valencia. Serial chokers.

Nicely done on Cadiz toma, they're doing a Norwich, aren't they? You're right, on Superbru the Cadiz game is still marked "Live". And on EPL page I should have lost my lead to tumi, but it still shows me at top. Very weird!

One of my favourites when Nuno didn't get pressured into changing tactics this season, but since he left they seem to have found their way again. It's not that they're not exciting to watch, just the way they seem to have built for themselves a brickwall in final third. But yes, great value bets on them for now, thanks to their seeming inability to score (and yet still do).

@Joca: most of us did badly. I am noting that there are quite a few others taking more risks like rdbase now, and the weekly board shows this up quite well. I was a bit adventurous with picks and paid dearly (predicting 3 goals for United, City, Villa, Leeds) and then all of them scoring one or none. I have not been moved to change my stance today though.

Nadal at 7/1 before Djoko was out to me was the best bet I'd have taken BUT I decided to go for Tsitsipas at 18/1 instead -- I think the odds reflected people thinking his injury would get in the way but he's reached 2 semis here and I know he wants to do better while the world's bests aren't at their best right now. Glad @aoluain agrees the Greek as an outsider. I like my chances like that.

Yeah he was a long time favourite, but not by much initially. I think the highest odds I saw for him on Stake was 1.91, which is why I mentioned I'd been waiting for it to go all the way up to 2/1 for an even doubler.

Unfortunately, I guess heavy betting on him kept reducing the odds, hence the value, so I literally swung to Ngannou just for the odds.

Too bad we didn't get the triple win as this was a unanimous decision. You guys at Stake must still be happy!

I've definitely been doing a hell lot more "random" than planned for Serie A and La Liga and it's weirdly working out for me now after 20+ matchdays. But then it's not really random if you kind of know the teams even without really following the leagues right? For example, for me, random means backing the home team more regularly than the away team if they're not a big name team (to me). Or picking a draw when the last 5 games form for both teams is very similar (and so easy to use Superbru for that).

I think it all comes down to style. If your style suits prediction, better to stick to it. If not, better go random. My style of planning is awful for these types of pools, and I know it's only halfway through the season but I'm super happy with how it's all turning out so far just putting picks on favourites and instinctive scoring. This season I'm literally taking less than 1 minute to put my entire week's picks in, and in fact most of my picks for all 3 leagues are done a week ahead, if not more.

Last season, I was doing all kinds of calculations, especially for premier league, and then calculating in upsets, and putting in scores looking at odds for Correct Score market, who's injured, who's playing etc.

Now I'm just: fck it, a favourite doesn't stop becoming a favourite even if they change their style and team. And it pays off to still make the odd mistake anyway as even when Atalanta didn't win like last night, or the game before, no one else backed them to not win anyway.

You know there's always one or two teams after mid season you should never bet on. in EPL, that's become Chelsea. I wonder if it's become Atalanta for Serie A...

So I was asking for upset picks and not a single person here or anywhere guessed there would be 2 last night, and one knocking out tourney favourites too. Sadly, my Packers journey ends here. Killing not only my outright but additional bets placed using them as supposed acca padding.

After MLB, NFL bow outs, I think I will be limiting my bets to pure outrights next season haha.