I did a little calculation and based upon current difficultly (big caveat!) the Ant's ROI in around 63 (included PSU and import duty into UK) days and the 750GH/s in around 61 days. Obviously having 1 box rather than 4 makes life a lot simpler.
Did you set the calculator for mid-April at a minimum? Because according to BitcoinUltra's post they just finally finished testing and manufacturing PCB's. Seems like something that should've been done awhile ago. They haven't even showed any pictures of chips or a test rig mining at a pool yet!  Again, playing devil's advocate here. Not having shown it and not having done it are different. They couldn't have finalized their board design much before this, since the A1 chips haven't been out that long. They said they had sent them to production, and had all the necessary components. Yeah, they probably should shoot the bins of components and post up the image just to stop trolling and slow speculation, but I wouldn't want to be bothered either. They have 19 days to meet their self imposed deadline. I won't call them on anything else until that deadline has passed. I wish they hadn't gone the pre-order route, but they did. Only by a few weeks, though, rather than some pie-in-the-sky date that they pulled out of their ass like several other manufacturers/vendors have done. The A1's are out there, both Swiss and chinese knockoffs. They work. Let's see what these guys do with 'em. I see your point Biomech, just curious why they even bothered posting this a few days ago: Crazy day as you can all imagine, here are some pictures of the Enigma 1 case, I will take some pictures of our boards and manufacturing when I get on site   |
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I did a little calculation and based upon current difficultly (big caveat!) the Ant's ROI in around 63 (included PSU and import duty into UK) days and the 750GH/s in around 61 days. Obviously having 1 box rather than 4 makes life a lot simpler.
Did you set the calculator for mid-April at a minimum? Because according to BitcoinUltra's post they just finally finished testing and manufacturing PCB's. Seems like something that should've been done awhile ago. They haven't even showed any pictures of chips or a test rig mining at a pool yet! |
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Too hard to get a refund, last month i email, today i call them, next week i will fly to US to see them maybe.  Does anyone know how to sue a company from oversea? Isn't Black Arrow in China though? Address:
801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048 |
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Totally agree. The pre-order model should be outdated already. Delays and scammy companies leave customers with a bad taste.
I'm also awaiting announcements and upcoming release dates for AM and Bitmain, as well as, keeping my BA pre-orders(might as well as this point).
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What do you guys think is better?
180 GH of antminer now or 200 GH/s of Black Arrow in May?
According to Bitcoinwisdom, Black Arrow will never ROI starting in May unless there's a huge BTC price spike.  Antminer at least has a chance starting now at the discounted pricetag. |
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Depends on your budget. If you just want to experiment, you can get 5 Antminer U2s at @2GH/s each and get a USB hub for a budget setup.
If you have $700 to spare, then get the Antminer S1, get a PSU, and overclock to 200 GH/s. You won't be disappointed.
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Just ordered 6 Antminers from Bitmain and 3 power supply units from Tigerdirect for about $4,500. 1080 gigs of hashing power. As for the heat that they will generate in my apt..........
So Bitmaintech.com is a good site eh? Furthermore how long does it usually take for the miner to get to you? Depends where you're located. I'm on the east coast of the US, it arrived in 5 days after I placed my order. |
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Just get 4 Ants, overclock each to 200 GH/s, and you'll have 800 GH/s for less than $2500. Boom done!  |
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6 g's is a ripoff fellas, I'd recommend sitting on your hands for the S2 announcement later this month.
Because if the S2 is priced around half of these $5k and $6k miners, you best believe everyone will buy out the stock as soon as Bitmain puts it online.
That would be money well spent, imo.
Price is NOT that high. And anyone wants to wait for Bitmine's NEVER coming system, then that's his/her choice. Haha good one. Bitmain, not Bitmine. Bitmain is killing everyone right now. They're redefining the pre-order model for the whole industry. |
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WATCH OUT
Bitmain site is down and going to another domain!! Looks like a DNS hijack!!
Getting pushed over onto 119.9.72.212/product.htm
DNS has also changed maybe bitmain is moving server but doubt it
Wait for an update That doesn't happen to me, and I'm in the US. https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm works just fine for me. |
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I told myself I would not buy any more miners ... then Bitmain drops the price and puts a bunch of coupons in my account. Now I have another thash coming and not enough electricity to run it  Is this to be filed under first world problems? Bitmain is ridiculous with their daily sales. Kudos for a mining company that knows how to do business and treat their customers right (So far). Now, where is that S2?! |
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6 g's is a ripoff fellas, I'd recommend sitting on your hands for the S2 announcement later this month.
Because if the S2 is priced around half of these $5k and $6k miners, you best believe everyone will buy out the stock as soon as Bitmain puts it online.
That would be money well spent, imo.
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There's a 2 way Bitcoin ATM that just launched in South Korea. It may not have all of the OP's requirements, but it deals in both fiat and Bitcoin: http://www.coindesk.com/south-korea-launches-first-bitcoin-atm/Definitely looks like and operates like a standard ATM. Doesn't quite have the "locked" to one owner part down, but looks like a step in the right direction:  |
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I don't know guys, this one looks extra scammy.
I don't remember them having an "ANN" thread or anything here in BitcoinTalk. I'd wait until a Sr. or Hero member/developer got their hands on these to confirm the company's legitimacy.
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Wow, 0.999 BTC now! Bitmain must have alot of these units to be able to drop these prices almost daily.
So tempting to jump in again, but I think I'll wait for the S2.
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When it comes to the mining world, usually if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is! Especially when their pictures of the 1TH/s, 2TH/s, and 4TH/s are identical:  |
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That's the spirit! Always say the opposite of what you want Bitcoin to do. |
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Petahash?
Is this a rhetorical question? If so, basically the home miner will die out due to increasing electrical costs with little to no ROI. Serious mining will definitely move into the datacenter.
2014 will probably be the death of the hobby miner.
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Dorian kinda looks like the Grinch:  |
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