Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
First, save money for three years to support yourself during investing money on any business. Investing in real estate is indeed good, however you should be well aware of the places and areas where the demand of the infrastructure is high. Do not be greedy while buying or selling the properties, always try to double your investment and expand your businesses in many areas, do not stick to one business means one investment. Are sure for suggesting people to save 3 years of their money just to support their investment? I dont think that is a good idea since 3 years is a long time to do saving. How much did you get in 3 years saving? Do you compare it to 3 years of investing? Saving is good but investing is better |
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No,Bitcoin never was pump and dump it was created for some very serious purposes but these were and are people who sometimes loses patience and dump their holdings for little profits.This should be traded to maintain the price and increase it value so both trade and holding a combination is needed.
I dont think it will be that way because if there are no one pump there will be no one to dump. So my point is bitcoin price is control by some people that they called it "whale" because they got a lot of money to pump a lot of bitcoin and the price is going higher but after some time they are getting enough profit and they will dump it for sure because they already get some profit |
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There are two techniques commonly used by day traders to increase their profits from market movements. Leverage, or margin trading, means borrowing money on a short-term basis to speculate on the price of bitcoin. The loan is paid back when you exit the position. For example:
The price of bitcoin is $500. You borrow $5,000 to buy 10 bitcoins.
The price of bitcoin rises to $550. You sell your 10 bitcoins for a total of $5,500.
You pay back the loan of $5,000, plus interest (say, $50).
Profit: $450, on a price movement of $50.
Of course, you can also lose a lot of money this way: if the price goes down instead of up, you will lose ten times the price movement. This is what makes margin trading so risky – it is potentially extremely profitable, but can also be very costly.
Are you really believe that you will get $50 per bitcoin until your payment time is up? And now the price of bitcoin is just around $224-$225 so I dont think the price will hit until $274-$275 so it is pointless to do that kind of trick The best strategy is buying now and never sell it until the price going to $10000. You can't think the price is only $200+, right?
It might happen then you really never sell then. So you have nothing from your investment. On other hand you can earn from bitcoin price movements. Are you sure that this might happen? $10,000 is that making sense? May be around $1,000 I still believe it but $10,000 I still can't believe it what will happen if the price has going there |
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advantages
1. no need to waste money making business plans just to convince a bank to give you a business account, and then pay fee's to add electronic payment systems... bitcoin can work with just a QR code on a piece of paper.. no need for banks or payment service providers
Actually you really need money to convert it to bitcoin if you want to make payment using bitcoin 2. send funds across into any country without delay or fee's
You need to wait for the confirmation so I guess that is the delay and there is a fee per transaction but it is too low so it is not without payment many more advantages, but i got bored of typing
If there are still more advantages there must be a lot of disadvantages too, there are not all smooth things for bitcoin |
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apparently a 28 year old man was mugged last month in New York City. he wanted to sell his bitcoin in person, when the buyer (which he met on Craigslist) turned out to be a robber and took his coins at gunpoint! story at coindesk: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-stolen-new-york-gunpoint-robbery/selling bitcoin in person is not safe anymore, next time we should sell out coins in a public place with witnesses present! Btw how are he going to sell to him in a person? There is so many escrow that you can count on here and he is selling it without any third party? I think that is a bad idea on selling bitcoin. You just at least pay a little fee to some escrow and he can transfer it to you safely |
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If they ever discuss it I dont think they can full control bitcoin, not saying about the bitcoin, the transaction thing they will sure hard to think any solution for this because there are more people trading everytime its like 24/7. And are you sure that the creator of bitcoin want to cooperate with government? I dont think they will because they barely know who is the creator of bitcoin
We can't underestimate the government just like that. They can do anything for earn very high profit for them. If the creator(s) of bitcoin won't cooperate with government and make them feel be annoyed, they can block all of bitcoin website, even shut down our internet access. What would we do if that happen? Well thats just my opinion  Thats why Im saying that government never support bitcoin if they can't even control it so its just a waste waiting them to support bitcoin because they have any power to do things mean while us just need to wait until they shut down the bitcoin so before they close it we just can earn more from bitcoin |
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Gold & Bitcoin would be my no.1 choice if I was buying, also Land, where I am the cost of land gets almost doubled in an year or 2. But it really depends on what budget you have.
Land.. now that is a pretty good plan.. Lots of insanely cheap land in parts of my country.. HUM.. I might just do this. I like this plan. also land are always worth something, even in a very distante future, they hold quite well their value, and if one day you can't sell it, you can still find another use for them, for you needs(like a small farm, or a vegetable garden) If land is so cheap in your country right now then don't count that it will be worth a lot more during next 10 or 20 years. The problem with land market is that if you buy some area very cheap it will probably stay cheap, unless of course you will build something there or you know for a fact that said land is valuable. Don't expect to earn fast profit from land trade. That is not true. Land is one of the best investments too besides gold and this is a long term investment. Because the price will sure going up again every year same as gold. Lets say you own that land and government want to build something near that land if they are not buying it they can't expand it so they need to buy with the high price from you and that will make others land near yours will go higher of course. So it wont stay cheap anymore so, you need government to make your investment profitable. Is that correct? That is one of the thing. You can get profit through that and there is much more than you can surely get profit from lands too. Like if there are people building house after that the land price sure going high too so we can earn from that. There are so many ways to earn profit from land. That is just how are you going to do with your land It would be happen if government build that. And if no, what will you do? We can't compare the investment of land with the gold, because if your land is not strategic place, it will be hard to sell, but for gold, everyone likes it.
Every land will get any profit anyway no matter how strategic or not. It just matter of time when the price is going higher or not. If there are no government that will build anything there I will just wait for the right time or may be you can produce something good. At last you will get the profit so you nothing to lose |
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Why not accept member onwards ?
Because the rank is depends on the posts. I think mostly Sr member ++ posting is better than member rank. They dont want their site is like spamming site because off lower rank members. Because there are many spammer out there although with higher rank too but with the higher rank the less spammer |
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I think Bitcointalk is helping effecting bitcoin.
Bitcointalk is a place where thousand eye gather. Because of that some company or dice site , dare enough to advertise through this forum as we known as signature campaign. When I got bitcoin it means I'm holding bitcoin. When someone hold bitocoin, bitcoin's price also can be effect.
Without bitcointalk, I think there will be a quite drop of bitcoin price.
Its true that there are thousand eye gathering here and wait some good information that what they should do about their bitcoin. Are they gonna sell or not? No this forum is telling to sell are you really going to sell it? Please answer it for yourself. With this forum exist we just can maintain our stack of bitcoin so it does not affected bitcoin price anyway since the biggest player of bitcoin is from china so I dont think this will do some effect to bitcoin price itself |
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The camp 1 (small amount) produce some f**king posts to lure the camp 3 (most people) into false assumptions. Just because you can't make profit out of BTC doesn't men it's dead. I mean Bitcoin was invented to have a currency that can have versatile uses. It was not invented to make you rich.
Nope I dont think that is bitcoin real purpose. May be somehow that is correct, bitcoin can have versatile uses but I do not think there are no people that want to earn more from this. The point is people want to earn more money thats why they are using bitcoin and bitcoin is supported by a good technology so both of this is profitable. So what is the matter in bitcoin uses? |
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simple. Volatility give a value to Bitcoin
We all need here is a high value not a low value that you think. If there is a high value in this bitcoin I think its good but the real thing is bitcoin price will drop significantly that it will be bad to us so thats why there are many people out there dont think volatile is a good thing There is nothing bad if price drops. Only more people will be able to afford it. More people will have better for Bitcoin. 1+1=3 Why that is not bad? I think there are many people that buying bitcoin at higher price so they will hope the price will go high to earn more profit not lose profit just because the price drop significantly. In some way may be good but there are more people will lose profit than people can afford it anyway so it will be good if the price keep on raise so both of them will sure get profit. The matter is more or less only, rather than get nothing |
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Join signature campaign and you work is equal to your salary industrious is your capital in this community if you are only idle you cannot make a money or gain
correct the best and safe way to grow your bitcoin is by joining some good and genuine signature campaign which pays you good amount of bitcoin it will take time to grow your bitcoins by joining a signature campaign but you surely earn bitcoin as it is safe and the best way to earn bitcoins. You cannot grow your Bitcoin by joining sig campaings. At best, you can add a bit of dust at the top of your pile. If you have a pile. I guess the $20 each week one might get for a signature campaign are big money to a big part of worlds population. They probably could live from it or have half a monthly work salary with that. If you have better ways to make money then be lucky.  Yes if you are into gambling it is not sure that you will win everytime so it is better to join some signature campaign and start earning bitcoins gambling is an art and as it is said that fortune favors the brave so if you want to get into gambling you need to brave by heart and by mind. well you can grow bitcoins with gambling on sportsbooks if you follow professional tipster or you are the tipster Although tipster can be wrong too so you can just do gambling to groww your bitcoin, at least you must need some certain work that can earn you more than gambling. Anyway gambling is a lucky thing to do so my suggestion is if you have some spare you can do it for fun not using gambling to grow your bitcoin. I think that will not work |
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Gold & Bitcoin would be my no.1 choice if I was buying, also Land, where I am the cost of land gets almost doubled in an year or 2. But it really depends on what budget you have.
Land.. now that is a pretty good plan.. Lots of insanely cheap land in parts of my country.. HUM.. I might just do this. I like this plan. also land are always worth something, even in a very distante future, they hold quite well their value, and if one day you can't sell it, you can still find another use for them, for you needs(like a small farm, or a vegetable garden) If land is so cheap in your country right now then don't count that it will be worth a lot more during next 10 or 20 years. The problem with land market is that if you buy some area very cheap it will probably stay cheap, unless of course you will build something there or you know for a fact that said land is valuable. Don't expect to earn fast profit from land trade. That is not true. Land is one of the best investments too besides gold and this is a long term investment. Because the price will sure going up again every year same as gold. Lets say you own that land and government want to build something near that land if they are not buying it they can't expand it so they need to buy with the high price from you and that will make others land near yours will go higher of course. So it wont stay cheap anymore |
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likely due to the sudden recent uptrend in interest in bitcoin. that confidence in bitcoin is rising, it would be foolish for the government to stand idly and watch the dollar devalue against the bitcoin.
That is true if we need that bitcoin should grow in future then we desperately need the support from government and society to accept is as a currency for the mode of payment. It is the fact that people trust fiat more over the bitcoin as they are used to it and credit cards are so much in demand nowadays that people don't want to get into bitcoins as they are not aware and that is the reason they don't trust bitcoin as a currency. Nope government will never support bitcoin as one of our currency because they can't control nothing from bitcoin, about pricing, the movement, everything. They will never ever support bitcoin forever Well but I think the government now discuss about how to get full control bitcoin transaction, and maybe they are trying to looking for who the bitcoin creator is/are.
If they ever discuss it I dont think they can full control bitcoin, not saying about the bitcoin, the transaction thing they will sure hard to think any solution for this because there are more people trading everytime its like 24/7. And are you sure that the creator of bitcoin want to cooperate with government? I dont think they will because they barely know who is the creator of bitcoin |
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Bitcoin is like a shitty coin which is causing me to waste my precious time  will not make you happy. you should sell & go Nope I think every person in this forum are happy about what they have now no matter how much they got for now. And nothing to sell if they are really happy what are they have. A lot of bitcoin that you have will make you more happy so you need to stack your bitcoin as much as you can Bitcoin is like a shitty coin which is causing me to waste my precious time In that case why are you using a signature that no doubt pays you a small fraction of a bitcoin for each post? If that small fraction of a bitcoin becomes very valuable tears from now then it's not a waste of time. Every coin has two sides and that's true joining a signature campaign doesnt pay you huge amount of bitcoin and for that you need great level of dedication and discipline to invest your time in commenting on the posts but its a safe way to earn money you are investing your time and you are earning valuable bitcoin out of it. You are wrong. Singnature campaign has the best payout without any risk so yeah this is good. And about your level you can still buy any account if you are sure that you will post all constructive posts, so why not we earn in this kind of method? This is the safest method of earning that you cannot get in anywhere except here. So try to use it when you still can |
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If it did work, I think everyone would be doing this right..  It sometimes works but it doesnt mean it will give profit all the time. Atleast in my case Martingale is always work but in the end you will always lose all your money so better just do it with luck. Dont depends too much on any gambling method because there are no methods that really can earn you more money |
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IF btc becomes a reserve currency with the same status as.fiat currently does, it will take a LONG time. Revolutions don't happen.overnight.
It will not be a currency or as the same of fiat money because bitcoin is all about fiat money. If we replace or take over fiat money bitcoin will be useless. not if it can detach itself, from that useless crap of printend money everyday, fiat is now needed to point a value for it, but in the future i'm sure bitcoin can work for itself, when the fully stability is achieved How are they gonna work it in the future? People sure need fiat altough bitcoin is in a stable condition, they need to buy it then convert it to bitcoin too so with the stability of bitcoin, fiat is still needed they can't be detach each other. New people will still need to buy it anyway and sure its hard for use to get it from faucets so bitcoin and fiat must stick together in other to survive i mean, it will work like any other currency, like you exchange euro with dollars if you need it, but then you don't need to buy back fiat, because bitcoin will be used directly for everything not just buying stuff online(we are talking about a very far away future, probably even beyond fully adoption), so fiat will only be needed to buy it I think we can't do the same thing to bitcoin. Like you said euro and dollar you just need to exchange it easily because both of it is well known as a currency in this world mean while bitcoin is an unknown method of payment, people wont believe it anyway and they need change it back to fiat too after they lose their hope in bitcoin |
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Altough that is not a real site, is that a really legit site to play? Because from what I know forex trading is a little bit risky and there are kind of ponzi similar to forex trading too
it is absolutely legit, it's a well known software that deal with stock in the form of contract for difference, i also used it with the bonus that they give you(25 euro) with the first registration Can you please share the link? Btw do you need some deposit to get that 25 euro? I guess its good to get some earning in that forex trading |
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buy short term government bonds. you can never go wrong with that, and then get your money back. unless another fiancial meltdown happens. Which short term goverment bonds that you can actually buy it? I know that most of short term investment have low risk but the payout is low too, you will get just a little bit around 10% back from that investment so it wont good enough to stack your money buying that investment |
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No. It was a solid project, not a pump and dump.
People don't have the patience to wait this much for a scam. If it would have been a pump and dump, Bitcoin would have become dust even before the first altcoins came to life.
I think people doing this pump and dump because of arbitrage from one exchanger through another exchanger so if they dont have the patience they still can get their own profit through pumping and dumping. But how is this things become a solid project if its price is still volatile? |
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