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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] VIOR | Viorcoin | TEMPORARY THREAD Open Discussion | Voice & Video Call | on: July 19, 2015, 08:33:25 PM
Bitcointalk speculation thread has finally become fun again.

Fun again??? and what does that relate to? Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

Playing or trying to follow  the bit coin market in a perpetual bear trend was tedious.   But it looks to me like the bear market is over...  so once the big players stop making money on shorting it's time for a return to the uptrend and excitement.
562  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crashing! Is this the beginning of the end for bitcoins? on: July 17, 2015, 03:58:00 AM
Holding it's ground in bull Teri tory quite well, by next week we will know for sure.
563  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's a bear trap on: July 16, 2015, 10:25:59 PM
It is not a trap but a correction. The bear market is over imo. We will climb 10 dollars per week or maybe each 2-3 weeks till moon.

 correction, bear trap, Same thing.   I just belive that bitcoins  true worth is much higher than you do...
Whether other people will begin to see it that way is still in question though therefore I like to buy or sell once the trend line has established itself.
564  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2015, 10:17:41 PM
It is already tax free just like stocks here in Belgium and Netherlands to I think.

I think it's considered a commodity in canada
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] VIOR | Viorcoin | TEMPORARY THREAD Open Discussion | Voice & Video Call | on: July 16, 2015, 09:50:48 PM
Bitcointalk speculation thread has finally become fun again.
566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good time to buy? on: July 16, 2015, 09:49:22 PM
If price rebrakes 300 buy, I'd it drops below 260 wait..
567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2015, 09:46:55 PM
This document is fresh from the press, it's not yet availible in english för som odd reason, but if you can read any of the other 17 langugeses that it comes in it is very interesting.
In short, one of the Swedish  high courts has asked the European court for advice on where Europe stands on taxing the exchange of bitcoin to fiat and vice vesa. This in turn because a Swedish citizen appealed a decision from the Swedish tax authorties on paying tax for the exchange of bitcoins he is doing in his company.
The european advocat general Juliane Kokott suggests as a verdict that bitcoin should be regarded as a currency and not be taxed. The court usually go with the advocat generals suggestions.

http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?doclang=DE&text=&pageIndex=0&part=1&mode=DOC&docid=165919&occ=first&dir=&cid=388883

good news !

This is awesome! Cheesy

Wow if that goes through, I may move to Sweden.
568  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crashing! Is this the beginning of the end for bitcoins? on: July 16, 2015, 09:42:11 PM
True if it hits 250on this wave  I will open a short...  most likely this is a controlled drop as some one accumulates longs before a push.
569  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's a bear trap on: July 16, 2015, 06:10:51 PM
At this point I'll hold my fiat until I see another bottom(continuation of bear trend) or a breakout above 310.  I'm guessing it's a bear trap though, just not one I want to bet on.
570  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crashing! Is this the beginning of the end for bitcoins? on: July 16, 2015, 03:34:42 PM
No one puts this much energy into something without having their foot in the game....

Be honest, at what price did you begin shorting?
571  Economy / Speculation / Re: Say Goodbye to Greece... on: July 15, 2015, 02:31:34 PM
There is a lot more connection and much less competition between states than their is between the sovereign nations of europe...

How can you call any Euro nation Sovereign when they get their orders from and pay taxed to the EU in Brussels?
Correct. In my country there are thousands of new laws made every year, and only half of them by us. And what we are allowed to decide for ourselves, in our own country, falls within the limits of whatever the EU says. We have no sovereignty. I suspect it is the same in all member countries.

That was kind of the point I was trying to make... the Euro is not working in countries like greece because of the nationalistic attitude of the parties involved....   in one single country you can have greater give and take between states because it is one nation.....
Competition between the nation's of Europe won't allow for this kind of social contract past what is good for the main contributes.
572  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you think the price will be in 5 months? and why ? on: July 15, 2015, 01:22:24 AM
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This will be the second bit coin bubble in the public eye, surviving that will lead to adoption phase.


Another bubble would be the 4th in the public eye. April-June 2011 made it into mainstream press (with the subsequent bear phase causing Wired Magazine to declare bitcoin dead), and March/April 2013 was very well covered. And obviously Nov-2013. So that's three already.

Recovering even halfway up to the prior all-time-high after each bear market gets the skeptics' scratching their simple heads, saying: "hey, maybe this bitcoin thing is going to survive after all".

OK we can add the 2011 bubble, but Bitcoin wasn't discussed on Canadian public radio until march April 2013 bubble.... 
573  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Interesting Chart] Price Per Bitcoin vs. Bitcoin Market Cap on: July 15, 2015, 12:28:34 AM
I think in 5 years Bitcoin market cap will touch 10 billion.  Grin

And for 10 years Bitcoin market cap will touch 20 billion.  Wink



I think you forget a zero on the market cap size after 5 and ten years
574  Economy / Speculation / Re: Say Goodbye to Greece... on: July 14, 2015, 09:51:57 PM
There is a lot more connection and much less competition between states than their is between the sovereign nations of europe...
575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] VIOR | Viorcoin | TEMPORARY THREAD Open Discussion | Voice & Video Call | on: July 14, 2015, 09:29:37 PM
Please post your experience with viorcoin voice and video calls.

Whether it works.
What OS it works on with which wallet version
What hardware you are using etc.

Works for me on both win 7 and 8 in Canada
One on my Asus laptop the other on my mining comp.  Asus Saber tooth build.
I'll look into my Webcam when I get back, for some reason changing up my Webcam is what allowed me to use the video feature on my tower.
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] VIOR | Viorcoin | TEMPORARY THREAD Open Discussion | Voice & Video Call | on: July 14, 2015, 03:49:13 AM
Comp is down, thought I could get it reformatted while taking care of the kids today, but I'm still disconnected.
New cpu inbound from tiger direct for my desktop, but the laptop has been a pain.
577  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you think the price will be in 5 months? and why ? on: July 14, 2015, 02:19:12 AM
We will see a renaissance of users as price moves back into the mid 300s...   this will probably push the price to 650ish before the crazies jump in and lose all their money creating a bubble up to 4kish...

This will be the third bit coin bubble in the public eye,(the 2011 wasn't noticed by many people outside of Silicon vslley) surviving that will lead to adoption phase.
578  Economy / Speculation / Re: No Grexit, Bitcoin Price Tumbles on: July 13, 2015, 11:15:34 PM
China took a huge dump on us after Greek bailout and already 12 hours later price is back over 290.  Bull market confirmed.

If it holds until Wednesday I fully agree with you....  money is on its way to the exchange as we speak
579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] VIOR | Viorcoin | TEMPORARY THREAD Open Discussion | Voice & Video Call | on: July 13, 2015, 03:29:51 AM
The usual will do for me, but I can be earlier if needed
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] VIOR | Viorcoin | TEMPORARY THREAD Open Discussion | Voice & Video Call | on: July 12, 2015, 06:44:46 PM
I'll work on getting a new intro page up and running this week..

Can everyone left please test out the video caller and voice, we need to troubleshoot first to see which os versions work and which hardware works, as well as to figure out locations..
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