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561  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FYI: Bitcoin is a libertarian movement on: December 24, 2017, 05:35:43 PM
It also depends on what you consider liberal; the Libertarians I know are basically just anti-federalist Republicans...
562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 23, 2017, 08:08:05 PM
Any current pool suggestions? Whattomine says I should be getting around 175-210/day, but aikapool seems to be only paying out around 50-55/day...
563  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you smoke weed? on: December 22, 2017, 10:21:28 AM
Im from holland. Weed is too strong here Wink

You are not kidding. I spent probably about 10-12 days in Holland in the couple years I lived in the EU. I can be sure I was there for maybe 3 of them.
564  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you smoke weed? on: December 19, 2017, 04:30:33 AM
I think the cigarette is okay as long as it understands limits on oneself because that determines whether or not strong enough to smoke is self

That's great but we're talking about weed here.
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Does mining in America die with net neutrality? on: December 19, 2017, 03:43:50 AM
The death of net neutrality is a good thing.  Keep the government out of it.  We don't need them censoring what content we have access to.  Allow the free market to operate.  Some ISP tries to throttle you or block crypto sites then another ISP will pop up and offer better service.  Free market FTW!!

It doesn't work that way.   lol  Google tried to expand in my area but it got block by AT&T and the city.

I like how he said the US government was censoring content when they weren't and net neutrality was the cause, if they were it would be like it is in the UK .. were the government does censor content unless they changed it.

and those so called Free markets what free markets ? .

Some ISP tries to throttle you or block crypto sites then another ISP will pop up

That won't happen either no new ISP will pop up and those Crypto sites will stay blocked ..
you know i thought the Government was the problem for a while . when in fact those regulations are keeping the Wolfe's off our backs and keeping us free ...it's not the people there regulating its the big Crop those regulations apply to, who don't care .

"another ISP will pop up"

Hahahaha no. Even in most major cities it isn't profitable to start an ISP. So telecommunications companies have a virtual monopoly in most markets...
566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Does mining in America die with net neutrality? on: December 18, 2017, 05:28:30 AM
Mining predated Net Neutrality - I don't see it's demise *IF IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS* being a noticeable issue, since mining is low bandwidth.

 I do think Net Neutrality was one of the VERY FEW things the Obama Administration ever did that has some logic to it.


 It is UNCOMMON in the US to only have ONE choice for an ISP - though it IS common for the competition to be between differing TYPES of service, like Cable vs DSL vs Cellular vs Sat (and vs EthernetToThePowerPole in some areas) among other less-common options.

 I can't remember the last time I lived in a place that had only "ONE" choice for an ISP (but I concede I've not lived in a true rural area in the Age of the Internet).



Right, but it IS common for your DSL and your Cable providers to both be gigantic telecommunications monopolies (thanks, Clinton) who would benefit from throttling bandwith to price gouge companies. Wink
567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 18, 2017, 03:27:07 AM
all of our wallets work great, it's just that sometimes users have firewalls or something (especially on windows)

the tor android wallet is my personal favorite.

Not my experience on Mac. I've tried three different downloads (the Electrum and QT from the site and the QT one from the first post here) and none of them work. Both QT wallets failed to sync (one sat for almost 12 hours before I closed it) and the Electrum wallet just hangs when trying to create a new wallet with a window that only had a dialogue bubble with an exclamation point in it and an ok button. Left that open for five minutes and eventually it just crashed. Maybe they're not 10.13 ready?


hi I have 10.13 on Macbook, High Sierra, and just installed Verge qt wallet, 'downloaded the blockchain and installed took 20 min to sync, first time was like crash or not responding, but left it and it worked fine, takes a while to startup every time...

Can you tell me or link to the wallet you downloaded? There are a couple (i'm assuming all the same core build, just different releases/different links updated at different times) and, like I said, the two I tried never synced...

No rush. All my coins are at aikapool, which is down right now. Smiley
568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 18, 2017, 03:09:59 AM
all of our wallets work great, it's just that sometimes users have firewalls or something (especially on windows)

the tor android wallet is my personal favorite.

Not my experience on Mac. I've tried three different downloads (the Electrum and QT from the site and the QT one from the first post here) and none of them work. Both QT wallets failed to sync (one sat for almost 12 hours before I closed it) and the Electrum wallet just hangs when trying to create a new wallet with a window that only had a dialogue bubble with an exclamation point in it and an ok button. Left that open for five minutes and eventually it just crashed. Maybe they're not 10.13 ready?
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Does mining in America die with net neutrality? on: December 16, 2017, 08:21:05 PM
This thread has gotten pretty funny.
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (10/12 v1.12 update) on: December 16, 2017, 08:06:02 PM
I took the day today to disassemble one of my D3, check and clean hashing boards, disconnect all cables, and did an hard reset etc.

Hopefully to see if the other 2 hashing boards stopped being hidden, as just one is shown.

All parts were in perfect condition, nothing burned and all looked like new, and still i can just see 1 hashing board.

Cannot understand if this is a internal defect in the cables or some firmware error.

Forgot to say that i also changed frequency and voltages various times, to the lowest and to the highest, to see if the boards appeared, with no luck

I have the machine working now but just at 2/3 of regular speed.

Any clues would be appreciated

If the cables aren't confirmed working yet, disconnect all but the active board, then swap that cable to one of the inactive boards and see if you still have a working board. If not, it's not the cable, it's the hashing boards and you should contact Bitmain for replacements (test both the "dead" ones to be sure). If so, swap the connection on the control board to a different socket. If not working, it's the control board and you should contact Bitmain or search secondary markets for a replacement board. If still working, it's probably the cable, swap the cable with one of the ones you removed and repeat the above steps, then do the same with the last one.

If everything works fine, before reinstalling the other two boards, test your psu vga connectors by swapping them out in a working hash board.

Also do all of this with the Bitmain firmware reinstalled. Testing hardware at stock settings is always recommended.
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 16, 2017, 07:50:29 PM
If it's so easy to go from 3 cents to 3$ then why Ripple still under 1$?  Verge has 14B  circulating supply VS 16M Monero.  I think it will take time for Verge to pass even the 50c mark  but 5-7c very possible at the current pump

He didn't say it was easy, he said it was easier than that same rate of growth in an established, already decently valued commodity. And he chose his words poorly, what he likely meant was far more probable; it is the same level of difficulty, just far less common. It's got nothing to do with the math, it's the psychology of the market.
572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Does mining in America die with net neutrality? on: December 15, 2017, 05:43:26 AM
The death of net neutrality is a good thing.  Keep the government out of it.  We don't need them censoring what content we have access to.  Allow the free market to operate.  Some ISP tries to throttle you or block crypto sites then another ISP will pop up and offer better service.  Free market FTW!!

Net neutrality rules WERE keeping the government out of it. The free market only works where competition is possible; in most places in the US, you have a choice between MAYBE 2-3 huge corporate options. I live in Portland, and even here there are only a couple independent companies which aren't available in all parts of the city. And in many cases the big companies own the lines themselves.

Protecting direct access is actually in the free market's interest. Terminating Title II protections only serves to benefit large corporations in positions of virtual monopoly. It is oligarchic; net neutrality prevented censorship, and removal of those protections encourages it.
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Does mining in America die with net neutrality? on: December 14, 2017, 08:38:54 PM
I kind of doubt it, because there will always be options outside of the big corporate ones (at least in most cities), and I'm not sure that there is a specific movement to squash crytpos; quite frankly, I'd be surprised if they are even on the radar of the current FCC chair, this to me reads more like an attempt to bilk users for more money to use streaming services, and limit access and speeds for small businesses (basically to allow for legal extortion from the ISPs).

If it did, however, you would likely see a temporary decrease in difficulty until all the machines using the US pools found new places to point, and possibly some decline in performance for machines in the US. I think it would probably be like the recent pause in Nicehash services, where mining the individual coins went up for a bit, and the daily profitable coins appear more profitable, because Nicehash's algorithms aren't set to immediately switch to them. In other words, slight changes, but I wouldn't expect, like, LTC to become profitable on GPUs or anything.

EDIT TO ADD: also, a simple majority vote in congress can stop it from going into effect, and I guarantee you that vote will come up (how it turns out, at this point, is anyone's guess).
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best pool for mining Dash? on: December 14, 2017, 08:30:10 PM
No Dash is not profitable right now. You should select another X11 coin.

Dash is a stable coin that has never actually been unprofitable with a D3 (unless your electricity is prohibitively expensive, like USD.35/kwh or higher), the profits are just super low at the moment. However Dash's value does continue to climb, so unless you are cashing out daily your profits/ROI/etc aren't quite so cut and dry as the numbers on whattomine or anything. In the past month, the value of DASH has doubled, and a steeper climb if you go further back than that.

I personally think 2018 is going to bring a lot of momentum to DASH--there are movements to create POS systems for medical marijuana sales in the US utilizing DASH to circumvent the current bank problem the industry experiencing, for one--so even though my ROI point is still months away mining primarily DASH, I'm sticking with it. But yes, if you are selling regularly, it is not a very profitable coin, but it is still profitable...

Is anyone mining on supr nova?
https://www.suprnova.cc
They seem to have a lot of X11 coins.
I will be getting my D3's soon, I honestly have no idea where to point them....

I use Spurnova for my D3. It's pretty good. Remember it is PPLNS, so don't freak out if your first day isn't as fruitful as you expect it to be...
575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dumbest thing you did in Crypto as a noob on: December 14, 2017, 12:46:14 AM
Most of these things aren't mistakes, they are standard results of investing in anything volatile. My dad used to say (before he left this shitty world) that you should never look back from a sale; you made your profit, and whatever future profit is for the guy who bought from you. Which, in turn, is how you made your profit in the first place.
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dumbest thing you did in Crypto as a noob on: December 13, 2017, 02:32:18 PM
I used to think way overpaying for my L3+ from a third party seller, but considering that that reached ROI like 3 months ahead of schedule thanks to the recent rise in LTC value, I'd have to go with buying a D3.
577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: UNA - The First Cryptocurrency for Africa (MINING HAS STARTED!) on: December 13, 2017, 02:18:17 PM
You may want to consider a simple app/disc image approach to your Mac wallet, most users are pretty wary of installers that require root passwords these days.
578  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: AntMiner, What does "HW" mean in Miner Status on: December 13, 2017, 01:26:31 PM
Hardware faults, I believe. Not hardware failures, just times your submissions were rejected because of hardware miscalculation. Tends to go up with overclocking/volting.

(I may be wrong here but that's been my understanding)
579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining farms for heating houses? on: December 13, 2017, 02:59:19 AM

Illegally stealing public utilities and housing it in a public swimming poo, then obvious money laundering, seems a bit risky, I don't think mining itself was the problem there...
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: L3+ Way Overclocked! 500M frequency - 650 MH/s! on: December 12, 2017, 04:49:31 PM
What sort of returns do you get? Are you mining other crypto's or directly on NH?

Looking into buying a L3+ and would like to know if it is worth it? Compared to normal GPU mining. Some people say it's too late to jump in, but if the ROI is better than normal GPU mining, why not?

Difficulty is going up on a regular basis. I'm glad that I had my L3+ up and running the same day it was delivered. I made 1 LTC in 6 days. Now, I am just hoping that I can make my next 1 LTC in 10 days.

I used to be faster than up to 60% of those in Litecoinpool. Now, I'm down to 37%. Lots of people are out there crunching away.

It's going to get tougher and tougher. Bitmain's next release of Antminer L3+'s aren't until March.

You should definitely get more hashrate from an ASIC miner like the L3+ than with a GPU rig, unless you have one beast of a GPU rig! :-)

Run the calculations and see what you think. Meanwhile, buying LTC right now is a very good idea. Buy it and lock it away.

I made kind of the mistake of going mostly in on mining. I have 5 TH/s of Bitcoin Cloud Mining on Genesis that went active on Halloween. It is doing well. And, you can switch mining to other cryptos like LTC. I am waiting for my next BTC payout, then I am going to test going 100% with LTC and see what kind of returns I get. Genesis rarely offers Cloud Mining contracts, and when they are offered, they go VERY fast. I was only on my fourth day of studying crypto, and was glad that I had the presence of mind to grab up what I did. Of course, I wish I had gotten more! But, with my limited knowledge at that time, I am glad that I went for the 5 TH/s.

But, buying crypto and locking it away should be part of your strategy.

I have carefully documented my experience with the L3+. I shot video of my unboxing and hooking up the Antminer to the PSU. I will post that when I get a chance, and put the link on here. I am also working on a written guide detailing my experiences and my personal advice. I will post that on my blog at the address you see below in my signature.

There is a lot to consider. Power requirements, noise, heat, and ventilation. L3+'s can be run on 120V. But, they should run more efficiently on 220V. That is my next step: Seeing if I can get a 220V outlet figured out.

I will try to post what I can when I can. With the holidays going on, I am quite busy at the moment!

Difficulty is going up, but so is coin value. Significantly. So while I am earning less on my L3+ in actual litecoin right now than I ever have, I am earning more in USD equivalent. It's all relative, unless it devalues significantly.

They will be more efficient on 220V, but do the math. I think it's something like 8-12% more efficient, so figure out how long you plan to run your L3+ (lifetime), the cost of your electricity, do the annual math on that, then subtract, say, 15% to be safe. Then do the math on what adding a 220V line and outlet will cost (if you're handy, then what the parts will cost; where I live, that worked out to around 1/3 the cost of hiring an electrician, your mileage [and homeowner's insurance or rental agreement] may vary), and figure out if it's ultimately worth it.

For example, my slightly overclocked L3+ on a 120v pulls around 850-900W (will retest that soon). So let's say for most expense, 900W. For me, actually, I can tap into the 60A 220 line running to my heater if I want (since my miners make my heater run rarely, and it runs well under the 10.5kW continuous safe rating, so my cost is basically an outlet box, outlet, and new cable for the PSU; I'd estimate that at maybe $100).

SO (and keep in mind that the voltage may be higher or lower than 220, but will be in that general neighborhood), roughly:

900*24*365/1000=7,884kWh

My electricity is .11/kWh, so:

$867.24/year, or $72.27/month

15% of that would be $130/year

So independent of coin value, if I plan to run my current L3+ for more than 10 months, it is potentially worth it for me to swap to the higher voltage (the bonus being I can actually test the exact difference by using one of my heater lines before I even do any work, all I need is an adapter to do so). HOWEVER, to do things with proper permitting to code by a licensed electrician would be significantly more expensive, and ultimately not worth it IMHO, unless I planned on building a farm large enough to require its own breaker box; then a series of 220 line would make sense, since the wiring was being done anyway. I do not currently plan to, so yeah. For my purposes, the small amount of difference is not worth doing it.

Now, if I plan to replace my L3+ with another ASIC miner in the future, which I may or may not do, the long term benefits may very well be worth it. But for now, I'm not planning to (especially since I use renewable energy and am having solar panels installed, so wasted electricity is becoming less of an issue for me, and I use the heat to heat my house anyway [my heater is also electric], so there's actually no loss of electricity in the winter).

Conclusion: if you will use the 220v line in the future, it is worth it. If it's only for the lifetime of this L3+, then the value is more about whether or not you want to be more efficient, not necessarily profit and loss based. My opinion only, and I'm neither an electrician or a math professor, so grain of salt and all that. Smiley
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