People, we are not holding DRK speculating on short term valuation!

Is it so that you need far less energy to mine x11  and how much?

thats a whopping 6 dollars a day.

same rigs same setup mine Einsteinium (EMC2) you will get 17.7 dollars.

per month $180 vs $531 dollars.

calculations taken directly from coinwarz.com

the ONLY good thing came out of darkcoin project is X11.

YEP, low diff and I get 0,62 DRK/hour so 14,88/day !!! YES YES YES.....dont mine it to early guys
Some write that it`s not profitable but persistent ones will win. With my 4x 280x + i5 I get 0,0189 BTC/day - electricity.... so get more that any other scrypt coin mining.... who knows how long it lasts....

Unfortunately, that German pushed me over the edge and I immediately dumped everything I ever mined and bought over the last 3 months

yep thats right mate, in fact on hearing that from you, I just dumped all my DRK. Everything is dying here.....decay and desperation. We've all known its been over for a while now, we were just in denial.

Anyway, onwards and upwards, what do you recommend I buy Dotnetmin?

5000 BTC per day mining from the BC multipool? No. At best close to 1% of that. So >99% of the pump volume is unaccounted for.

With all the hype going on with asic-scrypt miners and brand new 3th/s bitcoin miners i decided to go vertcoin.

Why?

Well... have a look on *bay and all the other sellingplatforms.

After that, read some threads about the big companies, not just one thread, visit some different forums (fori?)

But the real eye-opener was KNC!
They offer a "plan B" which means: if your hardware will be late (they cant deliver on Q2), you will get payed with bitcoin out of their datacenter...
Which they will mine "for you" with neptunes at atleast 3th/s and "all the bitcoins will be transfered to your wallet!".

So to make it really clear: they are mining AGAINST their costumers.
Killing the ROI with an increased difficult of sha (scrypt too?) using payed (from their costumers!) hardware!

I am not one of the XXX-mh/s private man, im living in germany and powercosts are too high to setup a big farm.

But i am still mining (1.5mh/s lol) because i think we need a better way than "fiat"-money.
After all: with the small profit i´m making im giving my son a bit pocket money in his study to go out and have some fun...

I am just a joe average, having a joe average job, doing joe average things...
But i believe in the power of people and not in the power of "banksters"!
just my 2 cents of wisdom...

yeah that is normal.. vertminer cgminer etc all require a bit of cpu power available at all times to work mining..
so if you all a of a sudden max out your cpu you should see a drop in hash rate until you free up the cpu again.
the cpu has to orchestrate the work like a conductor standing in front of a band.. he is not doing much but if you screw with him the band goes to hell lol
like the cpu is what is feeding the work to the gpu so if it has any delay in sending work then work speed slows down. make sense ?

i use vertminer myself with 1 gpu.. a Powercolor 7950 and i occasionally mine with my cpu on and off too or do video encoding etc
and i have different computers with different cpu's and it doesn't matter which one i use they all follow the same rules or problems etc.
my main machine is an i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads so if i use the cpu i make sure to leave 2 threads free for the GPU miner.
(so i would run the cpu vertminer with 6 threads via commandline) while gpu mining at the same time.

On another computer i have.. an nvidia card mining VTC with cudaminer with a Core 2 Duo e7500 and that is only 2 cores / 2 threads
and if use up the the cores on that cpu it slows my nvidia miner down too. I rarely ever cpu mine on that one because
it's not worth slowing down the faster nvidia gpu miner.. so yeah it's normal

Are they even real ?
Why are you so keen to change something that is not yet broken ?
You're speaking of amputation about becoming a gunshot victim when you are so far from being a gunshot victim.
Hidden conspiring ASIC company ?  

I don't know how many times we have to publicly say "VTC will hardfork if necessary to keep ASICs out" - we must have said it a hundred times!

I'll say it again, in case repetition number 101 will help - VTC will hardfork if that every becomes necessary to keep ASICs out. This isn't LTC, we're not going to suddenly decide to give up and capitulate in the face of a need to hardfork, we will do whatever is necessary to keep VTC decentralised and in part that means excluding ASICs by whatever means necessary.

You mean to say that asics for scrypt-n will be more expensive so less people can afford one??
If a coin is gpu-minable then everything is ok. Where it goes wrong is when it gets asic-minable.
You are missing the point. The point is asics should never be given a chance. What happens when asics arrive is irrelevant. Furthermore: a coin is not dead when asics arrive, the coin's PoW is dead when asics arrive.

The biggest problem with asics is their scalability. Compared to gpu's they need no external hardware worth mentioning. Affordable asics are as worse as very expensive asics because affordable asics will allow mining factories to be setup by anyone willing to do so. Expensive asics will leave the option open for the asic producer to setup a giant mining factory (as producing asics gets very cheap when the numbers go up). And the control over the coin is transferred from the mining community to the asic producer(s) in the long run.