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5621  Economy / Lending / Re: Website For All Lenders and Borrowers on: June 11, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
I thought about that, but it would be almost impossible to implement in way it should be done)

Please elaborate.

what stops from someone from scramming someone and the scrammer just makes another account?
Social account linking, maybe. I think you touched on another important point, though -- defaulters are almost always scrammers, not people who ever negotiate paying off a small portion of debt or are ever responsive again on the accounts they used to scram with.

We tried doing collaborating on publishing this info a few times before, and it always falls apart because lenders are too lazy. Two websites were previously made to try doing what the OP did, and I once made a simple collaborative Google Doc for trusted lenders - manually inserted every single loan Sen made using data from the giant IBB thread - but it all ended abandoned.

This would be a fully automated system.  No data will be input manually other than creating accounts and passwords. 

This scamming issue certainly has crossed my mind.  I was thinking about perhaps adding a very long form where users can put as much information about themselves as they would like.  Phone number, address, facebook account, etc would be some of the information that could be provided.  This would of course all be optional.

Then it would be much easier to avoid scammers, because fake facebooks are easy to spot.  Also if you give them a call on their phone and some spanish speaking women answers you know something is not on the level...

I was also considering perhaps tracking ip addresses to particular accounts, but I would like to avoid this if possible.

What if the borrower is a spanish speaking woman?

Also IP tracking won't do you any good unless you actively block TOR exit nodes and Proxies.  Even then, you'll always be a step behind.
5622  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally!!!!! on: June 11, 2012, 08:46:11 PM
 
cypherdoc:  It's that smell again.
        S3052: THE CLEAR PATH 
waveaddict: Smiley

but now cypherdoc appears to have second thoughts


cypherdoc: Update emailed: not good

i wish i could read this "not good" email... could the price drop below 5 again.... back to square one? ... that would suck... or would it! OMG BUY BUY BUY

Not good is unrelated to bitcoin.
5623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Coming next week-- the world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! on: June 11, 2012, 08:18:44 PM

I was under the impression scrambling is just a measure to prevent anyone from just "listening in" by turning on their ham radio--I'm talking about the following

Digital Represented values are encrypted into a Digital format by a key the receiver already knows.
The digital encrypted message is converted into analog values that are represented by a key table that the receiver already knows.
Now the sender broadcasts the message in analog(sound/light spectrum) but it isn't represented with two values, instead it is represented by the whole analog spectrum.
The receiver decodes the analog signal with a key table... Then decrypts the signal into digital represented values.

Im not sure what my "theory" would make the broadcast sound like to a listener but at least it doesn't sound like off and on ticks and thus the FCC would get a signal but it would be static... so the FCC could prove a signal is coming from somewhere but not know why they are broadcasting static Tongue (of course im still assuming my broadcast would sound like static or weird noises of some sort... makes me want to try it out...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrambler
Wikipedia gives me the impression scrambling is just packets of analog signals moved in different positions in the timeline where the reciever has a decoder that buffers packets and then puts them in the correct order for play back.

I'm interested in your opinion because you seem to know what your talking about.
i don't think you can do that losslessly. there needs to be some kind of binary system in it, so you can make it digital again.

You just need to quantize it, not necessarily binary.  For example you could take each byte of binary data, and map it onto an analog signal.  The low end of the signal would be 0 and the high end would be 255.  Of course, you will need redundant transmission and error correction because your analog signal will get distorted by noise.  The more bits you map to each analog value, the more problems you will have with errors.
exactly what i was talking about. i just could not put it into words. would such signal be detectable because of the "hops", like there is only 34 and 35 but not 34,5. would it not leave a empty "space" between 34 and 35?

You would have ranges where each value would be represented.  Say 34-35 represents 01101100 (arbitrary, don't try to figure it out).  You would have a tradeoff between accuracy and obfuscation.  If you broadcast 34.5 you'll have the best chance of falling in the proper range after your signal is corrupted by noise.  If your signal is strong enough and there is minimal noise, you can choose any random number in the range each time.  You could probably make it look a lot like analog noise if you tried hard enough, but you would have a tough time broadcasting over any distance.  Plus, the fact that your broadcasting noise would raise questions and it wouldn't be too hard to track down the transmitter to get those questions answered.
5624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Mark of the Beast? on: June 11, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
And besides, it doesn't matter how much hashing power the government gets. They can deny to confirm transactions all they want. All that matters is that there is enough hashing power delivered by others, to confirm any pending transactions. Governments adding more and more hashing power for themselves, does not in any way decrease the hasing power of others.

Every heard of difficulty?

That would just slow down non-government transactions, and make them more secure once confirmed by anyone. Kinda like the Mystery Miner who doesn't include new transactions.

This whole thread is silly. "Sorry officer, my computer got hacked and they stole all my bitcoins." An easy one-way gate into the black market will always be available. All the government would accomplish would be to legitimize cryptocurrency and broaden its use. Just for shits and giggles, I would intentionally poison some high-profile green addresses with tainted coins too. People who actually launder money normally through businesses would have a field day.

Ultimately, we would have people with brainwallets performing labor for one another, with no way to determine why they do what they do.

All I was saying is that Kazimir's statement that "Governments adding more and more hashing power for themselves, does not in any way decrease the hasing power of others." is false.  It does decrease the effectiveness of the hashing power of others.

But I agree this thread is stupid and I don't feel like arguing about our imaginations any longer.  MoonShadow wins biggest imagination, and I pray he loses when it comes to accuracy.
5625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Coming next week-- the world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! on: June 11, 2012, 08:03:03 PM

I was under the impression scrambling is just a measure to prevent anyone from just "listening in" by turning on their ham radio--I'm talking about the following

Digital Represented values are encrypted into a Digital format by a key the receiver already knows.
The digital encrypted message is converted into analog values that are represented by a key table that the receiver already knows.
Now the sender broadcasts the message in analog(sound/light spectrum) but it isn't represented with two values, instead it is represented by the whole analog spectrum.
The receiver decodes the analog signal with a key table... Then decrypts the signal into digital represented values.

Im not sure what my "theory" would make the broadcast sound like to a listener but at least it doesn't sound like off and on ticks and thus the FCC would get a signal but it would be static... so the FCC could prove a signal is coming from somewhere but not know why they are broadcasting static Tongue (of course im still assuming my broadcast would sound like static or weird noises of some sort... makes me want to try it out...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrambler
Wikipedia gives me the impression scrambling is just packets of analog signals moved in different positions in the timeline where the reciever has a decoder that buffers packets and then puts them in the correct order for play back.

I'm interested in your opinion because you seem to know what your talking about.
i don't think you can do that losslessly. there needs to be some kind of binary system in it, so you can make it digital again.

You just need to quantize it, not necessarily binary.  For example you could take each byte of binary data, and map it onto an analog signal.  The low end of the signal would be 0 and the high end would be 255.  Of course, you will need redundant transmission and error correction because your analog signal will get distorted by noise.  The more bits you map to each analog value, the more problems you will have with errors.
5626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Mark of the Beast? on: June 11, 2012, 04:53:48 PM
And besides, it doesn't matter how much hashing power the government gets. They can deny to confirm transactions all they want. All that matters is that there is enough hashing power delivered by others, to confirm any pending transactions. Governments adding more and more hashing power for themselves, does not in any way decrease the hasing power of others.

Every heard of difficulty?
5627  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Informant - Keep your friends informed. on: June 11, 2012, 04:07:27 PM
In at least the english version, there is still a reference to bitcoinweekly.info in the "free bitcents" section.

And now I must kill you. haha. Thank you! tipped!

Thanks!  I was wondering where that came from.
5628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Coming next week-- the world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! on: June 11, 2012, 04:06:04 PM
I know we're off topic, but your initial magazine announcement did claim distribution through Barnes & Noble.  When will I be able to pick up a copy at my local store?  I almost bought some advertising space because of this claim and I'd be pissed if I had.  Maybe "the community" is not the only one who needed to learn.  In the past you have overpromised and underdelivered.  I hope you have learned from these errors.

Thank you for your constructive criticism. We're still working through the long process of being distributed in Barnes & Noble. As was mentioned, the review period is up to 3 months after the first issue is printed. They are already reviewing it and I am in regular talks with the distribution manager for Barnes & Noble's accounts.  The reason nothing is announced is that there is nothing to announce yet. Thank you for the kind words though. We're all looking forward to the already internationally available magazine to be distributed in bookstores as well, even at an almost guaranteed loss to gain exposure to Bitcoin and continue doing our duty. Appreciate the support as always!

Good to hear... now get back to work on the Ellet!
5629  Economy / Economics / Re: Ron Paul vs. Paul Krugman on: June 11, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
Math is not science. Math is a descriptive language just like this language. There are no more perfectly straight lines real world than there are invisible pink unicorns. They only exist in the language of our imaginations. This is about philosophy. You can learn more about it by searching the term epistemology.

Mathematics is a science. It's not (only) a descriptive language. Math allows us to obtain true knowledge, not only talk about it. Ex: If two items of the same nature are put together with another two items of the same nature, you'll have four items of that nature (2+2=4). That's not a product of "imaginations", it's a true fact.
I threw you a bone. OK, so you claim math is a science. Fine. a^2 + b^2 = c^2 is a math theorem that is mathematically accurate to absolute precision. Now show me a perfect triangle anywhere in nature that can be measured and independently tested and verified to have perfectly straight lines and can be accurately measured at anytime to be be consistent of the theorem that a^2 + b^2 = c^2 exactly.

Show me any theory that can be measured and shown accurate to absolute precision.  Good luck.
5630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Coming next week-- the world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! on: June 11, 2012, 04:00:01 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61017.msg711305#msg711305
I'm glad you printed a magazine, but I think the businesses that paid you for advertising were expecting a little more circulation than a few dozen copies. I have heard nothing more of your plans to get Bitcoin Magazine distributed. I want to believe you, but you juggle so many things without following through that it is hard to see where you are going with your businesses.

This post as well as yours will surely be deleted shortly as they are completely off-topic but I do feel it deserves a response of some sort. The magazine advertisers were in contact with us the entire time. You do not give us much credit for resolving issues and like most in the community assume way too much.

The plans to make a magazine in the first place were mine, but once you have a Board of Directors with experience in distribution, infrastructure, security, etc, you lose your ability to discuss every intimate detail with the open public. I promised that I'd keep the community involved in the direction and content of the magazine, but no one said I had to make it easy for competitors to compete.  Wink
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I know we're off topic, but your initial magazine announcement did claim distribution through Barnes & Noble.  When will I be able to pick up a copy at my local store?  I almost bought some advertising space because of this claim and I'd be pissed if I had.  Maybe "the community" is not the only one who needed to learn.  In the past you have overpromised and underdelivered.  I hope you have learned from these errors.
5631  Economy / Speculation / Re: what just happened? on: June 11, 2012, 05:32:55 AM
Can someone explain to me what just happened? Did someone just sacrifice their btc?

That was a botfight.
5632  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Informant - Keep your friends informed. on: June 11, 2012, 04:47:47 AM
In at least the english version, there is still a reference to bitcoinweekly.info in the "free bitcents" section.
5633  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's the logic behind this? on: June 11, 2012, 02:27:40 AM
Leaving it in a low interest bank account would seem better to me. Then again if there is a huge bitcoin sell-off, 1.15 a bitcoin would be a good deal considering bitcoin still survives.

Can you point me to a bank that will offer me an account yielding more than half a percent per year?  Yeah, didn't think so.
5634  Economy / Speculation / Re: are you all watching? on: June 10, 2012, 01:27:15 AM
We can assume the market is rational.

Since when has this been a valid economic assumption?
5635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Coming next week-- the world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! on: June 10, 2012, 12:04:05 AM
I skimmed this thread, and would like to know how this is better than the "smart" phone I just bought.

The only thing I see people saying is that it is smaller and thus harder to steal. If that is the only selling point it would be hard for me carry something extra that I can already do.

Thanks.

It would be more secure.  "smart" phones are super easy to turn into "out of your control" phones.
Please go ahead and hack my phone. My number is +1 (650) 426-8720.
Yes, it contains BTC.


No thanks.  I don't steal, and I have enough to do this summer.  There are ways to secure your phone, but many default installs are vulnerable.
5636  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Coming next week-- the world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! on: June 09, 2012, 05:56:28 PM
I skimmed this thread, and would like to know how this is better than the "smart" phone I just bought.

The only thing I see people saying is that it is smaller and thus harder to steal. If that is the only selling point it would be hard for me carry something extra that I can already do.

Thanks.

It would be more secure.  "smart" phones are super easy to turn into "out of your control" phones.
5637  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [IDEA] Dirt cheap online storage on: June 09, 2012, 08:10:53 AM
https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs

One of the developers (Zooko) is into bitcoin.  Perhaps starting a discussion about this on the tahoe-dev list would be well received.  There may be a way to easily integrate servers advertising a bitcoin address to encourage them to provide more space.
5638  Economy / Economics / Re: Ron Paul vs. Paul Krugman on: June 09, 2012, 07:20:32 AM

Quote from: HappyFunnyFoo
Prices are probably headed to $0.25 per coin or lower.  There is no functional economic use for bitcoin as a medium of exchange in society at this time.  The only thing it has going for it is the stability of the platform, but even that is shadowed by the ease of theft and long transaction delays (compared to the 5ms secure transactions for trading other types of commodities or currencies).  On the bright side, the decline will become more gradual below the $1.00 level, which is about the time speculators started buying into the market.

When a bubble pops, it pops all the way.


Now that's what I call advanced understanding of macroeconomics, with
all its mighty predictive power once more superbly demonstrated.


lol
5639  Other / Off-topic / Re: linux question on: June 09, 2012, 07:08:39 AM
If you can program, just get a list of all the files, hash it, check your hash list.  If the hash is already in it, move on, otherwise add the hash and copy the file to the destination folder.  If you can't program, hire a programmer.

I'd be willing to send someone a few btc to write a script for me. It will have to work using mac binaries.

I would think something like python would run fine on a Mac, but there's likely programmers around who could do it without you having to install an interpreter.  If you post your requirements here you should get a decent response: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0.  If not, I can do it for you in python, but it will take me a couple days since I'm busy with a lot of other stuff.
5640  Other / Off-topic / Re: linux question on: June 09, 2012, 06:53:50 AM
If you can program, just get a list of all the files, hash it, check your hash list.  If the hash is already in it, move on, otherwise add the hash and copy the file to the destination folder.  If you can't program, hire a programmer.
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