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5621  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Could we have an "send all funds to" option? on: January 21, 2013, 01:26:05 PM
However I just thought of this - if it *remembered* that last way it chose to do the tx (in terms of which unspent output to use for what including the fees) then provided that that fee paying unspent output has enough to cover all the fees it could solve it couldn't it?
5622  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Could we have an "send all funds to" option? on: January 21, 2013, 12:42:11 PM
only in case if you are emptying your wallet because this also implies that you send other outputs.
my example above is a little easier but a similiar problem.

 - 0.995BTC to send fee was 0.001
 - 0.999BTC to send: fee suddenly was 0.005
^^ here is the problem that the biger tx uses more (very small) outputs which results in a higher fee.

Thanks for this - I hadn't actually thought about it much (clearly) so I can now understand this would not be easy at all.

Guess we won't be seeing this "feature" any time soon then. Sad
5623  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Could we have an "send all funds to" option? on: January 21, 2013, 12:28:43 PM
because the fee does also use unspent outputs.

Sorry edited after you replied - so it does matter which "unspent output" the fee is chosen from?
5624  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Could we have an "send all funds to" option? on: January 21, 2013, 12:24:59 PM
it depends which coins are selected - which appears to be random sometimes.

If I am "emptying" the wallet then how can it depend upon "which coins" (I presume you mean "unspent outputs") as I am spending them *all* (and I don't believe it matters *which* one is used to provide the tx fee)?

(perhaps you weren't completely emptying your wallet?)
5625  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Could we have an "send all funds to" option? on: January 21, 2013, 12:18:00 PM
its not that easy because fee calculation is not deterministic.

Really - I thought it was?

This https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Rules_for_calculating_minimum_fees is wrong then?

5626  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Could we have an "send all funds to" option? on: January 21, 2013, 11:37:17 AM
Not a bad technique - of course I won't be throwing out any private keys (just effectively sweeping them all out to a new address) but I would think that if it's not too hard for the software to do this for the end user (who could be Gavin's Grandma after all) then why not have it do the work for them?
5627  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Could we have an "send all funds to" option? on: January 21, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
Was thinking about "emptying" my wallet (for better anonymity) and although not that tricky is a slight pain to have to do pull up a "calculator" to work out the exact amount to send when taking into account the tx fee (assuming it would be > than the minimum due to cleaning out the "lint" of small unspent outputs).

Perhaps it might be worth adding a "Send All Funds To" check box to the "Send coins" tab so that the amount to send (minus the required fee) can just be worked out automatically for the end-user?
5628  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoins are lost? on: January 21, 2013, 10:53:05 AM
heres nothing else in the addresses. i still have 22k blocks to go and its really slow now...like 1 block every 3-5seconds...i guess its my only chance to see my bitcoins to wait it to synch to the end--

Just leave blockchain.info open on the address - if/when the BTC is sent you'll here a "beeping noise" telling you so.

As John suggested you might want to check with the sender that they actually have sent them (as it doesn't appear so).
5629  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoins are lost? on: January 21, 2013, 10:45:53 AM
Tl;dr: your bitcoins are not sent by the seller yet. Try contacting the seller.

John is almost certainly correct with this reply (I tend to take things slowly and to be overly thorough).
5630  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoins are lost? on: January 21, 2013, 10:44:56 AM
I don't understand the hesitation in posting here the address.

I didn't ask for that as it is up to the OP if he wants to do that (am assuming he was able to paste it into blockchain.info himself per his reply to my question).
5631  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoins are lost? on: January 21, 2013, 10:40:25 AM
Transactions (Newest First)  
No transactions found for this address, it has probably not been used on the network yet.

Yes - this is the relevant part - no tx has been detected - it would seem fairly likely that if after 30 minutes it does not even see an "unconfirmed" tx that the tx didn't actually occur (you did check "both" addresses?).
5632  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoins are lost? on: January 21, 2013, 10:34:22 AM
Okay - when you look at the address in blockchain.info does it have any tx's below it or does it say that it's probably a "new address"?
5633  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoins are lost? on: January 21, 2013, 10:27:16 AM
Browse to http://blockchain.info and type the Bitcoin address (*not* the private key) into its Search and check what it says about the balance.

Assuming it is there then you just have to either wait for you client to "catch up" or change to a "lightweight" alternative client (such as "Electrum") that doesn't need the blockchain.
5634  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Add a "low priority" setting for Windoze? on: January 21, 2013, 06:08:48 AM
IIRC the "move thread" is somewhere on the bottom of the page on the left.

Thanks!

I had actually never noticed that link was there before (wasn't trying to be lazy).

Finally moved to where it should have been originally posted (must be a bit tired today).

Smiley
5635  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Add a "low priority" setting for Windoze? on: January 21, 2013, 06:00:13 AM
I *know* how to do these things (changing the priority either from a shortcut or from the Task Manager or in code, etc.).

I posted in the wrong sub-forum and I thought that I was being told I can *move* my topic so that is what I want to know "how to do".

Can someone please explain "how do I move this topic"?

(actually maybe I'll just delete it as it looks as though it will take me more time to explain what the purpose of this topic is than I think I can be bothered with)
5636  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Add a "low priority" setting for Windoze? on: January 21, 2013, 05:48:12 AM
You can do so yourself.

Oh - how?
5637  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Add a "low priority" setting for Windoze? on: January 21, 2013, 04:55:41 AM
Sure and I have coded SetPriorityClass before - but I was suggesting something that might be more usable for Gavin's Grandma than an API call - let's say a check box perhaps? Smiley

Hmm... just realised I posted this in the wrong sub-forum (should have been posted in Development & Technical Discussion) - any mod want to move this for me?
5638  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Add a "low priority" setting for Windoze? on: January 21, 2013, 03:30:37 AM
Running bitcoin-qt on a not so powerful laptop running XP can be a pain as it consumes basically all CPU every time it validates a new block (so every 10 minutes or so my computer *freezes* for generally around 5 seconds which feels like a long time when you're trying to code).

Of course I know how to lower the priority of the bitcoin-qt process (and do this for now) but I think this makes for a pretty bad new user experience (especially if you are catching up blocks) and I would guess that many users may not even know how to adjust the process priority.

So maybe it would be a good idea to have a setting to "Run as low priority"?
5639  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] CIYAM Open - "I can get 2 BTC by writing two simple install scripts?" Yes! on: January 21, 2013, 12:46:29 AM
Kudos to Kim Dotcom's new Mega and interestingly enough client side encryption (a major part of his new system) has been in use for over a week on CIYAM Open.

Although some better marketing will be on its way we are patiently and slowly going to assemble the "workforce of the future" in which one doesn't work "one or two jobs" per year but maybe "100-200 different tasks" (which could be spread over numerous different projects).

A web page to help "join up" will be coming soon - and there is still 2 BTC available to write some rather trivial installation scripts.

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KD: You know, I mean I am a fighter and I am going to fight this thing. I feel confident I am going to win because at the end of the day I know, my family knows, and everybody around me knows that I am no criminal and I have done nothing wrong. So I will fight it. It’s all I can do.

Keep up the fight Kim!

Screw Hollywood and screw copyright!
(hmm... almost forgot - screw patents too!!)
5640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kim Dotcom Mansion: Press conference 2013-01-19 GMT on: January 20, 2013, 09:37:32 AM
CIYAM Open has been "open" for well over a week (it does encryption over plain HTTP using Javascript - although its approach does require an initial GPG message so a little more tricky to use) - I guess 2013 was destined to be the year for this kind of crypto.

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