playing on crypto-games just now and losing 14th time in a row  is this normal?  thank you anyway 14 losing streaks is just small conmpared to my 25+ losing streaks. Yeah, its normal thing in gambling and i suppose you used martingale strategy which does not really work at all in any gambling dice sites. Its already been busted and because of that streaks you should learn a thing from gambling  |
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Lets say I want to buy bitcoins today and store them for 20 years to use a my retirement fund. Live comfortably, but don't need to buy a yacht or anything. How many do you think I would need to buy?
We don't know what will happen 20 years from now, maybe bitcoin will not survive to that date or maybe bitcoin will survive but the price is unpredictable because its characteristic of not being stable and that's the one reason why bitcoin is unique. So while you're still alive just don't be outdated of the news related to bitcoin. So you can control your coins anytime. it is always have to side possibility , became worthy or became worth nothing , noone can guarantee bitcoin will keep growing and survive for years even satoshi the inventor , so don't go allin in this awesom bitcoin world , but keep your faith in bitcoin , i myself planning to hold 10 bitcoin atleast as future investment. I think bitcoin is not going anywhere at least for next 10 years but not sure what will happen in future, so I will never hold my coins for next 20 years but will sell when I am satisfied with the price. Only those people will hold their coins for 20 years who will have a full and stronger believe on bitcoin and will know that yes in the coming future bitcoin will take over the world financial system and it will be a global currency with a much higher value. and the whales also have stomach to afford to hold them as they can manipulate the price what they will want. And they deserve to be rewarded when they reach that number of years on holding their bitcoins, that is a tough challenge in their part as in 20 years many events will happen in the bitcoin economy. Yes only those who believe with bitcoin is capable of holding up to 20 years in the future, although uncertain about the future of bitcoin. but if bitcoin journey towards the next 10 years at least is growing very rapidly, it is able to make a big change in the price. but I also would not hold too long, if I am satisfied with the price, I also better to sell. Risktakers would surely hold those coins for sure for a long time because they have high hopes in bitcoin that it would increase its price into the moon and make them millionaires in the future, same as you said i would sell my coins in the price that i could see that im profitable enough. |
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Nope, i don't like to exchange my salary into fiat everytime, cause in my country bitcoin is still not accpeted and i am still wating for it, but i think it will not happen.
Me too I don't want to accept my salary for bitcoin because for me that is going to be risky at all and also here in my country the use of bitcoin is just limited. But if our country is going to be one of the most consumer of bitcoin then I am going to accept bitcoin as salary. Even it is going to be risky as long as there are stores that are going to accept then I am willing. That will take time for it to happen. You see it is like in 10 malls only 1 is accepting it. That is way too low for a perventage of stores. I wont do it also. Even if I am a CEO of a company I wont give my employees that hassle. It would be very hassle to someone if they exchange everytime their bitcoins to fiat because as same as other said bitcoin is not fully adopted in their country and some dont accept bitcoin as a payment especially to stores. For sure in the future bitcoins adoption regarding on merchants would increase in the future. Well some of the debit cards that exist would probably be one of the best ways to overcome an obstacle that shows itself like that, mostly due to the fact that while it is a hassle to constantly change Bitcoin into fiat to buy things, the debit card can relatively simply do that for you without much of an issue. If there are more merchants that would accept Bitcoin directly, that would be pretty great. You have a point if that way would be implemented then it would be a great feature and would give convenience to us if we prefer to receive bitcoin as our salary because you wont be hassled anymore on exchanging it everytime. Hopefully it would be developed in the near future. |
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Save money is always better than investing in risky ways, or ponzi schemes. But if the investment is safe and long term it's also useful.
I think the investment is not just about Ponzi schemes and hyip still many investments that have less risk. yeah I know most of the current investment is a ponzi. so that people think about investing is always risky. whereas there are many kinds of investment And I would really not consider ponzi schemers and hyip as investment because it is not. That is a complete scam designed to take the money of the people who are desperate to make money and resulted to being fooled by the operator of such. Investing in bitcoin is a clear investment I can say because it is legit and it can give us the possibility to earn in the future. We should always be warned about ponzi. They are scams and should always be avoided. Number one rule in choosing an investment, if it is too good to be true, it is. There are a lot of investments out there. We should not limit ourselves on online ponzi and scams. We should look for authentic investment that provide a sure roi. Since virtually all of the network is full of various rose by fraudsters. So that you can unknowingly lose all the money. You need to be very careful in investing especially in online investments where you don't know what is the future of that site so its better to invest in real world and real products. It depends on what investments would you prefer either offline or online. Both have the same risk on losing your money btw. If you see that youre invesmtent on online would be good compared to have a real world business then proceed . Its also good on having both investments but you would need to handle them properly to minimize the loss. Offline investment would be better like having your own business as it would be easy for you to manage and the risk is not that big compared to investing and trusting someone to run your money. yes indeed offline investment is much better because you can control your money unlike trusting it in the e hands of others when you put it in from online investment you are trusting your luck whether it will grow or not and the possibility of losing more if the person who mange it did not do his best so make sure to invest to something that you are also familiar with. But having an offline business needs a good capital as you need to spend for the rent if you are renting a space and also your employee if the business demands that to operate well, in online you can manage your money at the comfort of your own home and that is the best advantage. both have advantage and disadvantage to one another and it really depends on us which we would prefer. You have point that offline are better because you can handle and control your funds but it would still require large amount to rase a business offline. In online it really gives you convenience in your home but the risk is higher of lossing your money. |
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I may do this if bitcoin price goes up to 2000$ and singature campaigns pay the money equal to what they are paying now.
Lol I think it's useless if bitcoin prices rose as high as $ 2,000. but you do not have a job or income bitcoin permanently. I think the main consideration is the steady income Well yeah how you are going to enjoy the essence of bitcoins high price if you don't have permanent job and you can't even try to get one. That is why having a source of work with bitcoin is going to be better at all. But if you think you can work full time with bitcoin then that's a good way to enjoy the essence of price fluctuation of bitcoin. You should treasure your job the more your treasure bitcoin as you regular job will surely provide you a steady income, only quit your job when you know already how to earn consistently in bitcoin world. as of now im on a leave without a fee for almost a 2 months now keeping myself involved with alt trading and keeps on learning how to make it stable, i'm relying my daily expenses coming from my earnings so i guess quitting my job is not a good option i still needed it until i have a good investment and good understanding. Having a day job is precious because we rely to it on our expenses in our everyday life. Bitcoin is good and we must treat it as a sidejob to earn extra income which is really good for us. In your situation bro , you must be thankful to bitcoin even you stanby for two months atleast you could sustain it with the help of bitcoin. |
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If anyone wants to gamble very safely then he/she should not think about getting profit with gambling.Because higher the risk then higher the chance of big loss as well as big win. So they should take gambling as a method of entertainment or fun for them.Just gamble really very small amount so that if you loss then they make no effect on you,so that will be pretty safe,not much risk then you are safe.
Correct, we should only gamble a small amount so we can still enjoy gambling, with a small amount we are sure we can afford to lose that amount and that should be bear in our mind that anytime we can lose in gambling because our chances is lower compared to the house. Still it is gambling... Why are we always looking for safety when the meaning of gambling is risking... You bet small or you bet big, either way you will lose and no one can prevent it from happening... Small bets only makes you last longer in gambling but for sure it will still end up in losing same as in bigger bets and only few times that it will hit good... So anyway is not safe, better stop if you don't want to waste your money on gambling... Entertainment could be found on other things such as eating and drinking...  You have a point but there are still people would really make a budget even on small amount just to play gambling even they know that they would definitely lose in the end. Gambling addiction is the cause of this, they would find a way to play and they would definitely choose gambling than on eating and drinking. |
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Exactly, its never easy to earn money and same goes with bitcoin too, in fact I feel that earning fiat is easier in compare to bitcoin, as in bitcoin you need specific skills to earn it.
This I won't agree it because in real life no one is paying correct wage or salary for their worker. Ceo or owners just scratch the work and paying little amount only but bitcoin is not like that Here every thing is open ledger So everyone get proper pay for skill. Bitcoin is only way to stop the poverty and unemployment. LOL, Making money in real life would be difficult if you do not have a job, but if you have a job to earn money becomes easier. And I think the company will pay us a decent amount of the work we do dude. The only way to stop poverty is to give everyone a job rather than invest in bitcoin. Because I think if we rely on bitcoin income it will make it difficult to own, because the world bitcoin many things uncertain. thanks difficult to get a lot of money on a real job, especially if it becomes a regular employee. better still earn money in trading, because you can get a lot of money from volatile prices. therefore I focus to look for money in bitcoin. I absolutely agree, when you have a regular job you will only earn a fixed rate and you work hard for that busting your ass 8 hours a day, while when you are just trading even in seconds you can make a decent amount of money already. Just learn to save from your income in your job so you can start trading the soonest. Trading have some advantages because you could gain profit in a matter of minutes,hours or day but its not stable unless its too volatile then for sure profit are there. Day job would be precious even if you have a fix rate with it because tradings would not be the same in every other day it depends only on the movement of prices. |
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Gambling captivate so many people, and it has to attain to the level drugs. This hobby is not only ruining the man and his family, but also psychologically traumatic for the player.
No, not like drugs, there is a difference between the two addiction... Drugs destroy your brain, drain it til you are almost like a dumb up to being an imbecile... Though both addiction can be cure thru rehabilitation, the damage that drugs has made to your brain will be permanent... Yes these two addictions are completely diffetent from each other. Right drugs make you mad,the mind and whole body destroys slowly from the inside. It takes all your money as well as health at the same time.And in gambling tthere are people who do it for fun but i dont advice anyone to take drugs for fun. addiction on drugs and addiction on gambling is a different story they may the same on the result on lossing money in the end and would wreck your life but the effect on drugs would be more severe compared to gambling because same as others said it would destroy also your health which is very important to us. You would be a useless person if you are completely disabled. |
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That's too dramatic... If you want to quit, you can just quit and don't look for gambling sites that offers free betting money, that won't help you, that would just push you in to the gambling world... You said that you are trembling and what ever, then that's a sign that you can still feel your self, that means you are not yet an addict, just need a strong will and a breath of fresh air outside... willingness to move out is on OP's decision quitting gambling is not that hard you just need to keep yourself busy in other things or spare more time to your love ones and stay away from the site or from the place that you might encounter gambling again. It all really depends on our willingness on how to quit gambling but the situation is not the same to others because some would have a hard time to stop even if they are trying to completely wipe out gambling in their life. You are right just make yourself busy into somethings that dont have any connections with gambling and for sure you would forget those games. The best way to start ignoring something and distancing yourself from said thing is to get a hobby and starting to do something completely different from whatever the original thing was. That can be basically anything, from woodworking as a hobby to going and playing tabletop games if that's something that interests you. Getting more involved with a job or getting another one, whatever it may be, is always better than just trying to ignore a previous addiction through sheer will. If you are willing to get away from gambling you could surely do it and we have the will or self control on any thing or have an idea on what we must suppose to do in order to get away from it. Same as he said make yourself busy with other things any work or hobbies that would distract your attention on playing again gambling games. |
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Many people here don't seem to understand bitcoin at all. Bitcoin at 1$ can't happen. As it drops, either there is no particular flaw and the drop won't go too far, or there is a big flaw and bitcoin will simply die. Miners will stop their hardware, and you won't be able to even send or receive bitcoin, let alone exchange it for fiat.
Of course we all know that bitcoin is not going to fall at $1 but op is just getting the opinion of the people here and majority tells that it is going to be a good time for buying a lot of bitcoins. Because falling of bitcoin is going to be happen only for a short time and mostly the rising of price is going to be longer than its downfall. If bitcoin falls to $1 then it will be the best time to collect maximum coins, as everyone is sure that it has an potential to rise again in future, so after that even if it reaches to $100 then it will be a great profit to earn. I think the potential bitcoin after falling to $ 1 would fall dramatically I think once that happens, the better withstand the desire to buy because it is very likely the price will actually be down very sharply and the price may be dead. so look at the situation before buying dude Well if no one is going to buy with that price for sure the economy of bitcoin is going to be dead for real. But I know that there are a lot of people who are very wise in the economy of bitcoin because it is always going to be profitable for them even what it is going to happen with the price of bitcoin. If the price is going to be low then they are just going to buy. Thats not the case since as they see the bitcoins price had declined they would lost their trust to it and for sure there are new alternative or new alts that would take the place of bitcoin and those big investors would buy those coin rather than to bitcoin again which they already saw that its already declining or even dead. If you say that the bitcoin is going to die i do not agree with you mate and there is no alt coin will replace the mother of crypto currency and i also not agree with you that the users will lost their trust and bitcoin and just pick other alt coin to invest. Some users do investing in alt coin but it remain their main cryto currency is bitcoin. He didnt say that it would happen he already stated bout his view about the possibilities when bitcoin price would go to $1 price. He might a point though i think because if bitcoin would decline like that maybe ether or any alts would rise its value against btc then some investors would find a good price alts rather than $1 of bitcoin, you could only say that bitcoin is superior because hes top of the cryptocurrency world . |
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Need to make a plan of your spendings, the second step is understand why you saving this money and for what, the last step is just your power of will.
If a person lives in abundance, then save it will be easy. Because in the life of all that is unnecessary, you can refuse. But if you think every coin, then there is very difficult to do everything. Not really all the time because there are people who does not have a discipline in saving money, the temptation is out their and if you will let that in your life you will not control your self in spending. Every people are different in any ways and on their decision but if you are a sensible person then for sure you would do saving because you already planned your future with that savings and it can also help when there are emergencies or financial crises in the future that you would experience then it would be a big help to you. |
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Nope, i don't like to exchange my salary into fiat everytime, cause in my country bitcoin is still not accpeted and i am still wating for it, but i think it will not happen.
Me too I don't want to accept my salary for bitcoin because for me that is going to be risky at all and also here in my country the use of bitcoin is just limited. But if our country is going to be one of the most consumer of bitcoin then I am going to accept bitcoin as salary. Even it is going to be risky as long as there are stores that are going to accept then I am willing. That will take time for it to happen. You see it is like in 10 malls only 1 is accepting it. That is way too low for a perventage of stores. I wont do it also. Even if I am a CEO of a company I wont give my employees that hassle. It would be very hassle to someone if they exchange everytime their bitcoins to fiat because as same as other said bitcoin is not fully adopted in their country and some dont accept bitcoin as a payment especially to stores. For sure in the future bitcoins adoption regarding on merchants would increase in the future. |
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I'm prefer invest , as long as I have trust that the site was legit one , feel no regret eventhough I'm facing some losses.
But still it provide some risk just like gambling !
but to me gambling is very good than trading but if you are good gambler having good experience and skill with a good luck. because in gambling one can earn money in no time and cam make you rich in a very very short period of time. but if am just suggesting you, as gambling is one of the most risky game of the world. I never gambled and will not play. I have not once heard and saw the consequences of dependence on games. Well, in that situation you have that try it to know the consequences. But I can tell you now, the consequences in gambling is not really good if you are not ready to face and take the risk in gambling. Majority of us loses in gambling so we should be ready if that will happen. yes indeed the assurance of gaining profit is too small so it is really not advisable to risk your money unlike with investing you can control and you can go out when you decided to quit. and also you have a lots of time to study the market before you proceed. Gamble and investment have the same risk but same as you said in investment you can go out easily if you want to quit and you would stop your losses with that but in gambling you could also actually stop but you cant control the losses or losing streaks itself which is really hard and this thing would make you wrecked. |
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Save money is always better than investing in risky ways, or ponzi schemes. But if the investment is safe and long term it's also useful.
I think the investment is not just about Ponzi schemes and hyip still many investments that have less risk. yeah I know most of the current investment is a ponzi. so that people think about investing is always risky. whereas there are many kinds of investment And I would really not consider ponzi schemers and hyip as investment because it is not. That is a complete scam designed to take the money of the people who are desperate to make money and resulted to being fooled by the operator of such. Investing in bitcoin is a clear investment I can say because it is legit and it can give us the possibility to earn in the future. We should always be warned about ponzi. They are scams and should always be avoided. Number one rule in choosing an investment, if it is too good to be true, it is. There are a lot of investments out there. We should not limit ourselves on online ponzi and scams. We should look for authentic investment that provide a sure roi. Since virtually all of the network is full of various rose by fraudsters. So that you can unknowingly lose all the money. You need to be very careful in investing especially in online investments where you don't know what is the future of that site so its better to invest in real world and real products. It depends on what investments would you prefer either offline or online. Both have the same risk on losing your money btw. If you see that youre invesmtent on online would be good compared to have a real world business then proceed . Its also good on having both investments but you would need to handle them properly to minimize the loss. |
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no , you will not get any payout . i will suggest you furst you should read the post of signature campaign . there is everything that you want to know .
Excuse me? I was newbie for some time, and i have joined signature campaining. I was payed so i dont know what are you talking about. However doing sig campaining as newbie is pretty stupid... too low payouts actually. You should not care about the payrate when you're joining sig campaign. Just enjoy and responsible with your post and you will realize that everything went so fast without being expected Thats right when we are a newbie we must not care about the payrate but in reality most of the newbies directly seeks income in just joining directly signature campaigns and whos the one are not being payed in a signature camapign even in newbie rank? lol I do also recieved payment when i was a new back then. |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues. |
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There's is no a risk-free investment because when you invest you risk 100% of you money or whatever you invest, but
I think investing in gambling is so 1000% risk, you don't know when it will you investment earn.
unless you are ready to accept that you lose some or worst whole of your investment in gambling dude..
Not only in casino investment but in any investments we don't know when things will go bad and investors may lose their money. But some are riskier like casino investments but if you want to take the advantage of growing coins faster then you can diversify your investment means put in few good casinos then it will reduce your losses if anything goes wrong in one or two casino investments. In every investment there are risk involved on losing your money if things goes wrong in the end. Agree, there are many investments out there and as you said casino investment would be riskier but if youre wise enough you can do partitions in your money to invest so that it wont be gone when some of investment s would shut, same as he said. |
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That's really a hard question because women are not interested in the crypto world, they want to live in real life where they can do shopping to maintain their beauty, but if you can convince a professional woman who like to explore new things if would be easy to motivate them to use bitcoin.
There are also women who are not looking too much at their beauty... They are working hard to earn... I know some moms who are working on online jobs while attending to their family, those who are working on this home based jobs are the easiest ones to convince and not those who are outside and working on their day job the whole day... Agree, for sure those homebased job womens out there would be interested to bitcoin since they are the type of women who seeks an extra income which bitcoin would be the thing. They would really get hooked into bitcoin because bitcoin would increase their income just staying at their homes. |
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I don't think that 0.1 would be sufficient to earn a living with it, if you are depending only on bitcoin for living the you should earn at least 2 btc per month to have comfortable life.
You really didn't specify the .1 bitcoin amount you are saying. What i am trying to say is that if you can get .1 monthly then it surely not is sufficient. But when you can earn .1 in every 3 days or 5 days then for me this is quite enough It is a very good thing if indeed we get 0.1 in 3-5 days. For in the amount that we can do some things to fullfill the life or do some other way in order to get bigger or folding bitcoin doubled that amount. If you want to get a bitcoin with the amount is big enough, then we should be trading. Because of the trading we will get anything easily Well i would still be happy for now even if i am still getting .03 per week. As a student this would still be a very good help for me to buy the things i needed in school. I think .03 weekly is not bad since ive been in this industry for 6months only 0.03 per week is not bad amount for a student having a part time with bitcoin. 6 months is still new for sure in upcoming months or years you would learn new things or other methods that would increase your weekly income. Thanks to bitcoin and to this forum that gives us opportunity to earn money without any hassle or not so hard work. |
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Investing in gambling sites is risky and worthy.Before you investing in a site you must have research anything of the site like I have a bad feedback , investment plan and the staff members.But also asked the player or the user of the sites that they experience in the site.
Most of those sites won't scam you however, its that since its a new site and starting out, a whale might start gambling and completely empty the sites investment bank. But still you have a better chance to win because you are the house and you have the advantage, even if the there is a whale who will gamble in your site, he needs luck to win all your site bankroll so the advantage is still in you, some sites closes because the owner scammed its investors and that is the common problem. That's in casino investments choosing trusted sites are critical. Don't ever invest your money in any new sites just because to get better profit margins. Invest only on well-trusted sites, your profit margin may slightly less but at least they won't cheat you and take way all your money. Anyway, these investments are suitable for less risk takers. Even then, you have to be careful. There are a lot of long-standing sites that still may not be up to par. Some have shady admins or shady histories. Look at just-dice, they've been around forever. that's right mate but i think theres also some trusted ones just needed to have further review and the OP made correct decision to ask the community about how to and what he should do before doing the investment, i guess from those many replies OP already knew what to do next. and i hope the OP can learn about many thing on here before made any investment on gambling site so it can reduce the loss when he get loss and the OP can get win on big amount. because if the OP can not learning anything from here about gambling site, then the OP will loss all the money he have and will regret it. If he has time to read all opinions and views of users in his thread maybe he would get some good ideas which is very helpful to him before he make an investment with a gambling site. He must not rush into things without any knowledge because it would risk the money that you plan for investment which is not an ideal or a good thing. |
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