TheKB
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August 21, 2016, 06:20:16 PM |
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yes it is allowed, but some people don't like that as you can buy old account and others will think you that you have been here for long time so they will trust you more
some people don't like it because scammers buy accounts for cheap and start scamming easily with high ranked account and showing their self trusted, and this is true. account sales is pretty much encourages scam here. people should not sell accounts here. Yeah many people here are trying to make more accounts they are making a lot of account and sell to others. but honestly i dont know if this is allowed or not.. but according to term it is ok to make account multiple times here but the problem i didnt see that it is allowed to sell accounts here unless if the owner have no plan to use the account again.. Theirs no rule prohibit accounts trade but this doing are very discourable and not really a good thing to do, since many frauds buying high ranks account now just to fool people here, and the higher rank they can get the more people they might get scam its because sometimes newbie are looking for rank to trust not the intention or background of that account. buying accounts is clearly Identity Fraud and should be banned. or Trust system should be disabled permanently at least. there is no point in both services running side by side
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iv4n
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August 21, 2016, 10:34:54 PM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
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LordCoder
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August 21, 2016, 11:30:41 PM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
There are obviously ways to avoid that, but it'd be such a timewasting task to implement on Simple Machines Forum script.
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Zadicar
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August 22, 2016, 02:59:27 AM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues.
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senyorito123
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August 22, 2016, 05:22:57 AM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues. Mod can trace it via ip, but they dont anything with it since buying and selling accounts here is not really illegal but it is not really advisable to do so since many scamming events happen that bought high rank account are mostly involve in that scamming spree happen here, and that is one of plenty reason why they discourage it, and also it is very dangerous for a people to buy some accounts coz there are probabilities that the account they are about to buy is a hack account.
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TheKB
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August 22, 2016, 05:37:11 AM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues. Mod can trace it via ip, but they dont anything with it since buying and selling accounts here is not really illegal but it is not really advisable to do so since many scamming events happen that bought high rank account are mostly involve in that scamming spree happen here, and that is one of plenty reason why they discourage it, and also it is very dangerous for a people to buy some accounts coz there are probabilities that the account they are about to buy is a hack account. mods cant trace back the IP as most will be using TOR or VPN. and even banning on bitcointalk will not stop scammers from trading it on other forums. i guess the Trust/Activity system needs some overhauling to discourage trading accounts.
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dunfida
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August 22, 2016, 06:20:21 AM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues. Mod can trace it via ip, but they dont anything with it since buying and selling accounts here is not really illegal but it is not really advisable to do so since many scamming events happen that bought high rank account are mostly involve in that scamming spree happen here, and that is one of plenty reason why they discourage it, and also it is very dangerous for a people to buy some accounts coz there are probabilities that the account they are about to buy is a hack account. Even if they could trace those account it would solve only a small partition on this problem and would have a hard time if they would totally ban of selling accounts. I think thats the thing that they dont even bother to put such rule in this forum because they know already that it could hardly stop.
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August 22, 2016, 06:31:55 AM |
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So, some time ago there's this user who gave me a red trust because of selling an account. He said that selling account isn't allowed on this forum. So please answer the question, "Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?"
I guess there's no rules that its now allowed selling account here in bitcointalk, because I've always seen this in digital goods section and even in the auction and sometimes hero members are the one who sell it. Maybe there are members here that is not a fan of selling account here so when they see some account that is going to sell they give it red trust, because it can be use to scam other users here, they just bought an account that has good reputations and they use it to bad doings
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August 22, 2016, 07:32:09 AM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues. Mod can trace it via ip, but they dont anything with it since buying and selling accounts here is not really illegal but it is not really advisable to do so since many scamming events happen that bought high rank account are mostly involve in that scamming spree happen here, and that is one of plenty reason why they discourage it, and also it is very dangerous for a people to buy some accounts coz there are probabilities that the account they are about to buy is a hack account. mods cant trace back the IP as most will be using TOR or VPN. and even banning on bitcointalk will not stop scammers from trading it on other forums. i guess the Trust/Activity system needs some overhauling to discourage trading accounts. But I think the people is using encrypted network like a TOR and VPN is can know, because for some people using a VPN if you trace their IP will appearing the name of their van in the companies. maybe detecting the people is using TOR and SOCKS 5 it's will be more difficult.
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Oralmat
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August 22, 2016, 04:56:09 PM |
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So, some time ago there's this user who gave me a red trust because of selling an account. He said that selling account isn't allowed on this forum. So please answer the question, "Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?"
I saw most of the members are selling account, even they don't accept it that they are not doing it. But in fact, we all know about it, that mostly members are here, who have a lot of accounts and also they offer it for selling. But i think it is not suitable for everyone, because Signature campaigns have a rules so follow it.
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dihari
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August 22, 2016, 05:17:14 PM |
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I think it's not about allowed or not, its about the attitude. there's no rules on bitcointalk about buy/sell account.
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August 22, 2016, 09:29:52 PM |
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People are buying and selling accounts allw the time. It this was forbidden, admins would have already reacted and probably banned those users.
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Indrawan77
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August 23, 2016, 01:15:22 AM |
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It is allowed to sell and buy account in this forum however it is better not to do it,because some of the user buy high rank account and then use the high account to scam people, also buy and sell account make a lot user become spammer and account farmer
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dunfida
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August 23, 2016, 06:00:53 AM |
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It is allowed to sell and buy account in this forum however it is better not to do it,because some of the user buy high rank account and then use the high account to scam people, also buy and sell account make a lot user become spammer and account farmer
Well thats the main reason because those bought accounts would be used in bad things just like scamming people as same as you said but not all some may used it to join signature campaigns directly without starting to a newbie rank. We cant really stop these things because some people do make a living with just account farming.
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August 23, 2016, 06:08:55 AM |
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Accounts you wanted to sell was developed by you, so don't sell it. rather make use of it.
If one day bitcointalk don't allow accounts to get sold, other people may just gets to create auction threads on some other forums to sell these accounts. so there is no way still how to stop people from selling accounts. it could just go worse.
its like locking an ANN thread to control the trolls but then trolls themselves created more threads about the locked thread. You can't control these sellers.
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Mastsetad
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August 23, 2016, 05:05:33 PM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
If it is not prohibited or banned by the staff members of this forum then we can obviously not do anything about it except not doing it ourselves if we don't like it, or to tell others not to do it otherwise they will get negative trust from your side, it may somehow prevent users to sell or buy accounts, but i think that wont work as well unless admins take any actions against this.
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August 23, 2016, 06:50:55 PM |
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It is allowed to sell and buy account in this forum however it is better not to do it,because some of the user buy high rank account and then use the high account to scam people, also buy and sell account make a lot user become spammer and account farmer
I might stick with the term "okay" to sell accounts within the forum because "allowed" would probably mean a different thing. In the rules of the forum, there is not a single rule that prohibits sales of accounts but is discouraged since bought accounts can be used to scam other people in the forum and the owner could probably do other despicable things with the account like trolling and/or threatening someone.
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Zadicar
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August 24, 2016, 06:56:33 AM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
If it is not prohibited or banned by the staff members of this forum then we can obviously not do anything about it except not doing it ourselves if we don't like it, or to tell others not to do it otherwise they will get negative trust from your side, it may somehow prevent users to sell or buy accounts, but i think that wont work as well unless admins take any actions against this. Even if you put negative trust to those for sale accounts on some but sellers are clever enough already to use new account and dont show the for sale account because it would decrease the value of the account if it putted by a negative trust. We would have a hard time to stop this thats why the forum itself dont bother anymore with this scenario because its really hard to stop someone who sold their accounts to anybody.
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mishra1994u
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August 24, 2016, 07:06:28 AM |
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Thats the thing i also do not understand whether its allowed or not.I am neither in buying or selling nor i am interested in this. But i see and read posts and always see theads of selling some accounts and deal succesfully happens and nothing happens and some times i see users getting negative feedback and red trust because of selling account.So i think thats not fair,either every one should be given negative feedback who sells account or no one.
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dunfida
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August 24, 2016, 10:02:45 AM |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling? Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
If it is not prohibited or banned by the staff members of this forum then we can obviously not do anything about it except not doing it ourselves if we don't like it, or to tell others not to do it otherwise they will get negative trust from your side, it may somehow prevent users to sell or buy accounts, but i think that wont work as well unless admins take any actions against this. Even if you put negative trust to those for sale accounts on some but sellers are clever enough already to use new account and dont show the for sale account because it would decrease the value of the account if it putted by a negative trust. We would have a hard time to stop this thats why the forum itself dont bother anymore with this scenario because its really hard to stop someone who sold their accounts to anybody. Its like a virus even how hard you stop it you cant really stop to spread. Im just giving an example . Even how hard do the mods to stop the selling of accounts they would still keep selling and they cant tracked what account has been sold to someone. Thats why they dont care anymore to stop it.
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