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Other / Archival / Re: Last Drink You drank. (daily thread)

on: October 15, 2015, 08:09:25 AM

coffee + milk

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Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin investing

on: October 15, 2015, 07:26:10 AM

Quote from: Dotakels on October 15, 2015, 02:48:42 AM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 10:21:56 AM Quote from: bitbunnny on October 14, 2015, 09:47:26 AM Quote from: Quinn on October 13, 2015, 10:57:17 PM Quote from: phillip1882 on May 27, 2015, 06:41:32 PM so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice? The volatility of bitcoin makes it unwise to invest on. I think it is better if you just hold on to it and sell it if the price goes up. All investment are risky, that's true, but there is no profit without a risk. What you should do is to get informed about the investments that you are interested in and gain some experience. So try with small amounts first and never invest more then you are ready to loose. with my investment system you take none risk...you can just make only little profit. This is the point than people are not understanding with my system. what type of investment is that? investment without risk? that is so impossible. i think that is a scam, can you please let me know the system of your investment or how it works and explain to us how you can assure that your investment system doesn't have risk. I have already explained at least 10 times. No risk because you get back your investisment. Your investment is not placed on risky places,but on my wallet. Your investisment is just used to dispach dividends. Dividends comes from sponsors...who advertise on the site. so investors have principal back and a dividend. I cannot understand why so many people believe it is a scam... winspiral...it's me (lol) is already a known webmaster for already over 20 years... Why should He (he is me)(lol) a nice morning wake up and say ti himself...why not scam? No pronlem what people believe... I inform and people invest if they believe that it is interesting (and if they trust...of course) if you do not trust...do not invest... Yoy can say 100 times: ""I believe winspiral is a scammer""...or... But if you say winspiral is a scammer...then you are a liar. So far,on this forum I ave many negative words... Most of them I accept...because they are writen in a good form...in an opinion form...ok But I can not accept a strong afirmative way saying that winspiral is a scammer. So far only one positive vote for winspiral...and it is from an investor... I accept that you warn people against scam... But in my mind...if people accuse a person without proof..;I think it is nor fair and the accusators are more guilty than the innocent webmaster. I invite all the ceptical people to follow my site where you can see in full transparence the process and then you take your own decision. If you follow the progress of my site,you can see that investment without risk is NOT IMPOSSIBLE. A French saying says: IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT FRENCH.(lol) Ok...my site is not for investors who earn I do not know where 100% in 1 day...or sometimes more... My site is for people who have sleeping satoshi on their wallet and wand earn a little something with my principle.You can believe in my system or not...you can find it uninteresting...ok But please do nor accuse me as a scammer... I have all these internet years never scammed and i will not do. Of course you have never said I'm a scammer...but it is almost systematicly say... People cannot understand that winspiral is on the net for the fun above all... I propose for the fun earning few satoshi...and for this I am negatively voted... alone this...is funny (lol) People see ponzi everywhere and pass away from good systems...and in the meantime scammers earn...earn...earn...

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Other / Off-topic / Re: If you had a time machine...

on: October 14, 2015, 05:55:50 PM

If I had a time machine I would go in the future... take proves that I'm not a scammer and put them here on this forum (lol) Unfortunately I have to wait till the future comes from itself...(lol)

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: {23 Sites Listed} BitcoinTalk investor board MONITOR > ALL PAYING + SCAMS < Read before invest!

on: October 14, 2015, 05:20:58 PM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 14, 2015, 05:05:24 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 04:59:22 PM Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 14, 2015, 04:49:38 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 04:27:15 PM Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 14, 2015, 04:01:57 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 03:55:44 PM You talk about things you have even not understood. I know about a ponzi when I see one, and now don't tell me a nigerian prince gives you his money for free every 100 days. And if you want to back your statements do so with proof, Guilty until proven innocent is the "policy" of scams in bitcointalk. Lastly, definition of the negative feedbacks that are given to you: Sone you believe is a scammer or you have dealing and has scammed before. I can unfortunately not prove that my system is not a ponzi... it is impossible to prove it. How could I? I will give you an example: you buy and pay advertising for 100 days... someone says it is scam... how can the publisher prove that it is not scam before 100 days are passed? Explain me "Mr know about ponzi". You are using a wrong type of example for relating to your situation. You are promoting a ponzi,and trying to hide it by "its a investment site" statement with basically no proof, now tell me how in the name of heck am I supposed to believe it. Its like asking a thief to accept that he was the ne who stole I guess Sorry,I'm not promoting a ponzi I promote just my investment system where you can invest if you believe that it is interesting for you. If you read about what a ponzi is...you can see that none point about a ponzi is a point about my system. Where do you see the smallest similitude? Ok lemme rephrase on that one, it is not a ponzi scheme but rather a complex investment scheme which seems to be collecting potential investors, same like cloudminers which have an initial seeding money to start off with, and they do process most of the withdrawals like you do to collect big investors and then later scam them a big amount. ok...it is now nicer to hear... yes it is a little complex...but "in fine" you believe that all will finish by a scam... ok...you can believe what you want... But you have not see the subtility of my system who decrease the profit rate if to much is invested. Why should I propose such system if my goal is to collect big investment? Why do I pay back enough quickly 90% of the investment? If I would scam...I would proceed otherwise...(lol)

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: {23 Sites Listed} BitcoinTalk investor board MONITOR > ALL PAYING + SCAMS < Read before invest!

on: October 14, 2015, 04:59:22 PM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 14, 2015, 04:49:38 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 04:27:15 PM Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 14, 2015, 04:01:57 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 03:55:44 PM You talk about things you have even not understood. I know about a ponzi when I see one, and now don't tell me a nigerian prince gives you his money for free every 100 days. And if you want to back your statements do so with proof, Guilty until proven innocent is the "policy" of scams in bitcointalk. Lastly, definition of the negative feedbacks that are given to you: Sone you believe is a scammer or you have dealing and has scammed before. I can unfortunately not prove that my system is not a ponzi... it is impossible to prove it. How could I? I will give you an example: you buy and pay advertising for 100 days... someone says it is scam... how can the publisher prove that it is not scam before 100 days are passed? Explain me "Mr know about ponzi". You are using a wrong type of example for relating to your situation. You are promoting a ponzi,and trying to hide it by "its a investment site" statement with basically no proof, now tell me how in the name of heck am I supposed to believe it. Its like asking a thief to accept that he was the ne who stole I guess Sorry,I'm not promoting a ponzi I promote just my investment system where you can invest if you believe that it is interesting for you. If you read about what a ponzi is...you can see that none point about a ponzi is a point about my system. Where do you see the smallest similitude?

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: {23 Sites Listed} BitcoinTalk investor board MONITOR > ALL PAYING + SCAMS < Read before invest!

on: October 14, 2015, 04:46:41 PM

Quote from: Stroto on October 14, 2015, 04:34:40 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 04:27:15 PM Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 14, 2015, 04:01:57 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 03:55:44 PM You talk about things you have even not understood. I know about a ponzi when I see one, and now don't tell me a nigerian prince gives you his money for free every 100 days. And if you want to back your statements do so with proof, Guilty until proven innocent is the "policy" of scams in bitcointalk. Lastly, definition of the negative feedbacks that are given to you: Sone you believe is a scammer or you have dealing and has scammed before. I can unfortunately not prove that my system is not a ponzi... it is impossible to prove it. How could I? I will give you an example: you buy and pay advertising for 100 days... someone says it is scam... how can the publisher prove that it is not scam before 100 days are passed? Explain me "Mr know about ponzi". Well first off all "the publisher" wouldn't sell them under "...>Gambling>Investor-based Games..." And he would find a more legit way to promote his business It was an example...sorry if you do not see the metaphore... My system is at the right place...

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: {23 Sites Listed} BitcoinTalk investor board MONITOR > ALL PAYING + SCAMS < Read before invest!

on: October 14, 2015, 04:27:15 PM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 14, 2015, 04:01:57 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 03:55:44 PM You talk about things you have even not understood. I know about a ponzi when I see one, and now don't tell me a nigerian prince gives you his money for free every 100 days. And if you want to back your statements do so with proof, Guilty until proven innocent is the "policy" of scams in bitcointalk. Lastly, definition of the negative feedbacks that are given to you: Sone you believe is a scammer or you have dealing and has scammed before. I can unfortunately not prove that my system is not a ponzi... it is impossible to prove it. How could I? I will give you an example: you buy and pay advertising for 100 days... someone says it is scam... how can the publisher prove that it is not scam before 100 days are passed? Explain me "Mr know about ponzi".

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: {23 Sites Listed} BitcoinTalk investor board MONITOR > ALL PAYING + SCAMS < Read before invest!

on: October 14, 2015, 03:55:44 PM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 14, 2015, 03:07:12 PM Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 12:48:04 PM Quote from: rychallenge on October 14, 2015, 11:52:40 AM Winspiral all sites that have 0 rating (yours does) is considered scam/not recommended investing I do not recommend invest in your site... so if none rates your monitor it is scam? The problem is not that you recommend invest or not...the problem is that you are wrong about meaning my site is a scam. But perhaps are you an investor and you want not share the profit? (lol) have a nice day. This has been discussed over a lot of times, your site is a ponzi with more or less unstable payments which can scam at any time. And you keeping on stating your site as a "investment site" doesn't make it better, it makes it more shady. Lastly your jokes are not at all funny. And your arguments are emotional based instead of being based on some solid facts. What do you mean about "more or less unstable payments"? you can only say such thing after 100 days...so long the investments have not ended you cannot say unstable payments. You talk about things you have even not understood.

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Other / Meta / Re: can we vote on banning people ?.....

on: October 14, 2015, 12:54:01 PM

very bad idea... if it were so...I would already been banned...

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: {23 Sites Listed} BitcoinTalk investor board MONITOR > ALL PAYING + SCAMS < Read before invest!

on: October 14, 2015, 12:48:04 PM

Quote from: rychallenge on October 14, 2015, 11:52:40 AM Winspiral all sites that have 0 rating (yours does) is considered scam/not recommended investing I do not recommend invest in your site... so if none rates your monitor it is scam? The problem is not that you recommend invest or not...the problem is that you are wrong about meaning my site is a scam. But perhaps are you an investor and you want not share the profit? (lol) have a nice day.

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Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin investing

on: October 14, 2015, 10:21:56 AM

Quote from: bitbunnny on October 14, 2015, 09:47:26 AM Quote from: Quinn on October 13, 2015, 10:57:17 PM Quote from: phillip1882 on May 27, 2015, 06:41:32 PM so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice? The volatility of bitcoin makes it unwise to invest on. I think it is better if you just hold on to it and sell it if the price goes up. All investment are risky, that's true, but there is no profit without a risk. What you should do is to get informed about the investments that you are interested in and gain some experience. So try with small amounts first and never invest more then you are ready to loose. with my investment system you take none risk...you can just make only little profit. This is the point than people are not understanding with my system.

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Local / Suche / Re: Mining-Hardware für Anfänger

on: October 14, 2015, 09:38:32 AM

Quote from: allyouracid on October 14, 2015, 09:31:40 AM Quote from: yxt on October 14, 2015, 09:23:21 AM U3 kannst du hier gegen BTC erwerben: http://asicminer-shop.de/Antminer-U3-55GH-s Ist der Shop zuverlässig? Bei Mininghardware habe ich durch das, was in der Vergangenheit so abgelaufen ist, immer das Gefühl, dass kein Shop oder Hersteller die Geräte tatsächlich auch besitzt. ^^ edit - xyt, ist das Dein Shop? Wenn jemand Bekanntes aus dem Forum dahinter steckt, hätte ich schonmal ein besseres Gefühl. Quote from: winspiral on October 14, 2015, 09:24:57 AM wunshe dir viel gluck... Ich teste ein antminer U2 und mache 1000 satoshi im tag... Wenn ich das richtig sehe, hat der U2 auch nur 2Gh. Läuft der 24/7? er lauft 16h oder so...1.5Gh ...oder so ich habe nicht overclocked.

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Local / Suche / Re: Mining-Hardware für Anfänger

on: October 14, 2015, 09:24:57 AM

wunshe dir viel gluck... Ich teste ein antminer U2 und mache 1000 satoshi im tag...

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Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin investing

on: October 14, 2015, 09:20:36 AM

Quote from: phillip1882 on May 27, 2015, 06:41:32 PM so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice? I have programmed a system: It's not the usual one: invest and get...blablabla... it is based on real econnomy: you analyse...you follow the progress...and you invest or not. Many people believe it is a ponzi...they are wrong. it is why it is an unique systel seeable on the net many people believe ...wrong. So...it you have little satoshi to invest...analyze and do what is the best for you... you ask me advice...I advice.

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Other / Archival / Re: Last Drink You drank. (daily thread)

on: October 14, 2015, 09:11:42 AM

coffee + milk

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Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it?

on: October 14, 2015, 09:06:24 AM

Invest it in a sure startup ...if you see what I mean...

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net

on: October 14, 2015, 09:02:22 AM

A new polimic has started here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1205533.0 On this topic: 100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net is "considered" as scam. Why? the disign... the plan itseff... They have not found more arguments...

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: {23 Sites Listed} BitcoinTalk investor board MONITOR > ALL PAYING + SCAMS < Read before invest!

on: October 14, 2015, 08:49:13 AM

Quote from: rychallenge on October 13, 2015, 08:46:17 PM Prime I already tell you clear your debt then I will remove you from scam list Winspiral your site is the worst looking ponzi I have ever seen, the design terrible, payment plan even worse. That is why you are "considered" scam Lahvacemonkey when your script (non HTML) site come out I will test it. You make me laugh...sorry but you are funny. So for you an honnest paying site is scam: If the disign is terrible...(in France it is called "délit de sale gueule" This means if you see a person with a face you do not like it is guilty... Sorry if your analyse is based on such things...realy you do not go up in my estimation. So for you an honnest paying site is scam : If the payment plan is based on real economy and do not promise 100% ROI in 24 hours So for you an honnest paying site is scam: If you believe it is scam because all what you believe is right and can not be wrong. I am sorry,but for once you are deeply wrong and this does not make your MONITOR trustable. How can people trust your MONITOR if you write the oposite of the truth? That you comment about the design...ok...colors and tasts are not discussable. I do not know your disign...I do not know if you have a long or a short naze...But if your disgn does not please me...i will never say you are a scammer. One thing is sure...you are wrong and i'm not a scammer. Because if you say my site is scam,you say indirectly that winspiral is a scammer. I'm sorry...but if I'm not a scammer,then you are a liar... Because you can only tell the truth or not the truth... Sorry... so long you lie...so long you are a liar...

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Economy / Investor-based games / Re: {23 Sites Listed} BitcoinTalk investor board MONITOR > ALL PAYING + SCAMS < Read before invest!

on: October 13, 2015, 06:20:52 PM

Quote from: gugo on October 13, 2015, 06:18:08 PM Great thread, in this way, we can avoid scammers. or avoid no-scammers ...

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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about putting your address everywhere?

on: October 13, 2015, 06:18:47 PM

Quote from: lightenx on October 13, 2015, 06:13:00 PM But there are a few topics starting off with: "Tip me at: xyz" That just doesn't seem right to me few minutes ago I have even seen here on a topic: tip: xyz... and do you know for what? for saying my site is a scam ... now one can even be tiped for lyings...(lol) do you think this is right?

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