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5701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Charlie Shrem Pleads Guilty - What do you think? on: September 02, 2014, 01:17:00 PM
I do not understand the thread.   You are not a moron and yet you started this thread.   He clearly broke the law and then put in writing how to continue to break the law and "he would not notice".   Whether you agree with the law is irrelevant.   He was not in the "gray area", he was fully entrenched in the black.   Pleading guilty to save his ass and let the government set a precedent is the best outcome for him.

Nothing is ever as black and white as your making this sound. I started the thread to discover what people think about what the government is doing not to hold a trial.

Disagreeing with bad laws is not irrelevant. If I were the head of a Homeland Security office, under the NDAA, I could arrest your mother and hold her until the day she dies without a trial in a military prison. I think Rosa Parks would believe ignoring bad laws is relevant. She was tried and convicted using Jim Crow laws because she refused to give up her seat on a bus. People have been hunted down and killed to keep marijuana out of this country. Now it's legal in Colorado and Washington. Anti corruption and money laundering laws are a joke coming from a government that's as corrupt as the U.S. Government. Especially considering how much public money the CIA launders for its supply of arms to foreign factions to overthrow governments.
5702  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: September 02, 2014, 12:46:36 PM
Has anyone gotten a response to FOIA requests looking to determine the price that this auction closed at?

You still have a couple of years wait for that one.
5703  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's talk about how hot Asian girls are. [NSFW] on: September 02, 2014, 12:44:09 PM
I have never liked over-sized boobs. More than a mouthful is waste anyway. You can't even squeeze them properly!

I have always loved B cup...



Is she asian?
I don't think so...

Her mother and father were white but they had an asian housekeeper so it's ok.
5704  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase going busto? Numerous people not getting paid by Coinbase currently. on: September 02, 2014, 05:20:41 AM
I didn't realize it but they charge no fees for the first $1,000,000 of Bitcoin payments per customer. That's giving away a lot of profit! Literally the first $10,000 of profit from every customer. They claim to have 36,000 customers that would be $360,000,000 in lost profit. In order for them to start making a profit from every customer they already have their customers need to make $36,000,000,000 first. That's 36 billion dollars in sales before a profit on every current customer. The current Bitcoin market cap is $6,348,864,237. Kinda crazy.

I always paid to sell on them.  I think that is only if you go through the merchant tool.

I've been charged since my first bitcoin purchase on Coinbase. I assumed you're referring to merchants.

Selling coins.

Yes, that's the deal they give to merchants and a pretty sweet deal it is.
5705  Other / Off-topic / Re: Saddest Song you know on: September 02, 2014, 12:25:43 AM
good taste Dank with Pink floyd. Speaking of Pink Floyd where is My song you said you would cover?

Which one?

Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? Wink
Yes i do. Great singer. not many people here would probably relate to her though.

LOL that's the lyrics to the song.

Vera (Waters) 1:38

Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?
Remember how she said that
We would meet again
Some sunny day?
Vera! Vera!
What has become of you?
Does anybody else here
Feel the way I do?

5706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Average Joe thinks about Bitcoin on: September 01, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
Well those people don't seem very friendly. I thought Canadians were friendly people that wear Toques and eat tons of little round bacon.
5707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin shows staying power on: September 01, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
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That risk is borne by the consumer and the bitcoin payment processor, such as Coinbase or Bitpay, not the retailer. The vendor doesn't hold the bitcoin and is paid in U.S. dollars. As soon as a customer pays in bitcoin, the digital currency goes to the payment processor and the processor immediately pays the merchant, for a fee of less than 1 percent.

That's the real reason Bitcoin is spreading. There is absolutely NO downside for any business to take Bitcoin. They don't have to use Bitcoin or even hold on to it for any period of time. To the business owners it may as well be a cash transaction. We don't need any more businesses accepting Bitcoin for now. They will all jump in line when the user base increases. What we need more of and I mean a lot more of is daily users.
With cash transactions the business will have a risk the cash is counterfeit or that the cash gets stolen prior to getting deposited at the bank. This risk does not exist when accepting bitcoin.

The only risk to the merchant is that coinbase would not send payment to the merchant's account, but this could be resolved by a letter of credit from the bank that would guarantee payment.  

Thank you, that's my point. Getting a business to accept Bitcoin should be easy peasy lemon squeezy. It really is a no brainer. Using Bitcoin for the average Joe - not such a no brainer. I love the fact that all these miners have plenty of places to spend all the money that their cute little black boxes are putting out but we need the soccer mom that shops all day using it too.
5708  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin shows staying power on: September 01, 2014, 10:03:40 PM
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That risk is borne by the consumer and the bitcoin payment processor, such as Coinbase or Bitpay, not the retailer. The vendor doesn't hold the bitcoin and is paid in U.S. dollars. As soon as a customer pays in bitcoin, the digital currency goes to the payment processor and the processor immediately pays the merchant, for a fee of less than 1 percent.

That's the real reason Bitcoin is spreading. There is absolutely NO downside for any business to take Bitcoin. They don't have to use Bitcoin or even hold on to it for any period of time. To the business owners it may as well be a cash transaction. We don't need any more businesses accepting Bitcoin for now. They will all jump in line when the user base increases. What we need more of and I mean a lot more of is daily users.
5709  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: announcement: the international "when-bitcoin-reaches 1000,- $ party" on: September 01, 2014, 09:52:11 PM
Fuck it, let's just have a party every time it crosses $500!  Grin

That's what I'm talkin bout.  Grin

And the tickets won't cost 1 BTC Grin

That's right! Set this party up. No reason to wait another year.
5710  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase going busto? Numerous people not getting paid by Coinbase currently. on: September 01, 2014, 09:43:22 PM
I didn't realize it but they charge no fees for the first $1,000,000 of Bitcoin payments per customer. That's giving away a lot of profit! Literally the first $10,000 of profit from every customer. They claim to have 36,000 customers that would be $360,000,000 in lost profit. In order for them to start making a profit from every customer they already have their customers need to make $36,000,000,000 first. That's 36 billion dollars in sales before a profit on every current customer. The current Bitcoin market cap is $6,348,864,237. Kinda crazy.
5711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Do People Believe Bitcoin Will Replace Fiat? on: September 01, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
Tell me if this is one of the fixes that's about to be released or if it one of the not so serious ones.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758927.0

I happen to think this is a pretty serious drawback for adoption.

One of the not so serious ones.

Most people understand that attempting to buy a single stick of gum at 7-11 with a $100.00 bill will incur some delay while the metered change machine disgorges ten and twenty spots at a slow rate. Accordingly, most people desiring a speedy transaction will ensure they make change before making the tiny purchase at 7-11.

Personally, having a wallet that contains only a single address (actually unspent output) seems rather astonishing to me. Accordingly, I never really thought about this problem before. Yes, it is a problem. But I don't see it as a problem with the protocol. I see it as a user problem. The user could have made change before going to the bar. Further, if this becomes a recurring problem, I imagine the wallets that reach success in the marketplace will ensure that the funds therein are always balanced across multiple unspent outputs.

So, no. I don't agree with you that this is a serious problem that dooms bitcoin to obscurity for all time.
I don't think I said it dooms Bitcoin to obscurity. I think it will give other coin devs a fighting chance to beat Bitcoin at it own game.
5712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Do People Believe Bitcoin Will Replace Fiat? on: September 01, 2014, 08:01:04 PM
This Brock Pierce guy TBF member came up with Realcoin because he sees a problem with Bitcoin adoption and wants a solution.

Has he? I've seen an announcement about Realcoin. It is purported to to be a cryptocurrency that is controlled in lockstep with the US Dollar. Tell me - exactly how is this to be accomplished? I may be dumb, but I don't see any way that anything that we think of as a cryptocurrency can be pegged to something under control of a central bank. Can't be done.

Maybe Pierce has a viable scheme. I don't think he does. I think he's lying. I think he is just trying to attract fantastic sums of VC money with which he can live large -- just like every other failed business in which he has been involved so far.

I don't know whether he has. That what he says he's doing. I think he was planning on using MasterCoin as the protocol layer on top of Bitcoin allowing it to happen. You cut the quote off a little too soon.
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I don't know if that's the right way to go but it's one way.
5713  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Charlie Shrem Pleads Guilty - What do you think? on: September 01, 2014, 07:33:22 PM
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/charlie-shrem-pleads-guilty

I know all of you are aware of this news already. I'm interested in what you think about it?

Well, I don't think all the facts have been publicly exposed. However, from what has been made available, it sounds as if Mr. Shrem has indeed engaged in what the state terms 'money laundering'.

More importantly, I find the entire doctrine of 'money laundering' being a crime to be an abhorrent miscarriage of justice. If I were to be on the jury for this case (as if), this latter point would dominate my balloting.

I also find the established practice of prosecutors 'throwing the book' at the accused, in the expectation of being able to get the accused to self-incriminate to a lesser charge to be yet another abhorrent miscarriage of justice.

Though I certainly do not fault Mr. Shrem for acquiescing to what he felt was the best of the shitty array of available options.

I think that an intelligent realistic perspective. Yes, he was guilty of breaking an unjust law designed to allow the government to attack anyone they disagree with indiscriminately.  I don't think anyone would fault him for protecting himself. There aren't many Gandhi's out there protecting the greater good. That's what makes them special. I seriously doubt even if he fought the complaint any good would come out of it. I would have done the same thing.

The government passed a bad law - prohibition. They created an underworld of people willing to break that law. Illegal alcohol led to other illegal activities like gambling, prostitution, murder, bribery and general rampant violence. During that time the police murdered as many people as the criminals they were fighting. The government created a criminal element that survived long beyond the prohibition era. Bad laws turn good people into criminals. Homeland security can currently hold U.S. citizens detained on U.S. soil in military custody for an indefinite detention period without trial. Bad laws are stacking up here faster than we can track them.
5714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Come discuss the Bit Drop, the plan to give every person on Caribbean Island BTC on: September 01, 2014, 06:25:17 PM
I have a friend that's planning a vacation there sometime next March. He is planning to stand on the street with a sign offering to buy the coins immediately for cash. He is going to offer 50% of the current value for the coins and give cash immediately to anyone that transfers them to his wallet. He's already set up two exchange accounts to deal with the coin. This fund is going to "drop" a lot of cash in my friends pocket. I wonder how much of it he'll be able to capture? lol
Probably a lot. In the past, people who received coins via air drops have more or less sold them as quickly as they can. Your friend could likely offer less then 50% as many people would likely not go through the hassle of setting up an account on an exchange just for $10
I would think that a lot of people will not even understand how to transfer the bitcoin from their wallet (or however they are given the bitcoin) to Authoriy's friend. He would probably need to spend more time explaining how to make this transfer to each person then $5 would be worth.

I think he's counting on Coinapult to solve that problem for him.
5715  Other / Meta / Re: BadBear on: September 01, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
I just sent him a third message, and still no reply. Over a week....this is getting silly.

The issue is simple.

He moved my 60,000 view thread from the Marketplace section where it happily existed for one year.

He moved it into the Service Announcement section.

This is the wrong section for the thread.

All I want is to have the thread returned to where I want it, where the previous Admin had placed it, where my clients are used to viewing it, and to where it existed for one year before BadBear decided to become involved.

That's all.

It is a legit request, that I think at the very least deserves a reply considering the age, and view count of the thread.




Can you provide a link to the thread?

I believe that thread is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237164.0, which is 1) created by OP in Jun 2013, 2) now placed in "Service Announcement" and 3) has 59000 views.

Wow, he has good endorsements from users and appears to be providing a valid service. It was started over a year ago and has 23 pages. It's not just an initial service announcement because he has long standing customers. Why wouldn't it be left in Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Services? Are we trying to kill new business that's not on our buddy list?


I didn't want to be the first person to suggest that perhaps BadBear has less than honorable reasons for doing this.

I want to maintain that this was an innocent error, which is repeatedly being overlooked innocently on his part, yet I have to admit that a part or me is beginning to wonder if BadBear is purposely ignoring my PMs for a reason beyond my understanding.

I hope he eventually steps up, and actually bestows upon me a reply to my private messages.

Don't read anything into my post. I trust BadBear exponentially more than I trust you. I would, however, like to know why it was moved. I'm willing to bet there was a good reason. If it was because the forum is favoring one vendor over another that's sad but I doubt it's true.
5716  Other / Off-topic / Re: Saddest Song you know on: September 01, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
Definitely "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" by Eric Bogle. Gives me goosebumps every time I hear the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG48Ftsr3OI

Ooh, that is a good one.
5717  Other / Meta / Re: BadBear on: September 01, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
I just sent him a third message, and still no reply. Over a week....this is getting silly.

The issue is simple.

He moved my 60,000 view thread from the Marketplace section where it happily existed for one year.

He moved it into the Service Announcement section.

This is the wrong section for the thread.

All I want is to have the thread returned to where I want it, where the previous Admin had placed it, where my clients are used to viewing it, and to where it existed for one year before BadBear decided to become involved.

That's all.

It is a legit request, that I think at the very least deserves a reply considering the age, and view count of the thread.



Can you provide a link to the thread?

I believe that thread is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237164.0, which is 1) created by OP in Jun 2013, 2) now placed in "Service Announcement" and 3) has 59000 views.

Wow, he has good endorsements from users and appears to be providing a valid service. It was started over a year ago and has 23 pages. It's not just an initial service announcement because he has long standing customers. Why wouldn't it be left in Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Services? Are we trying to kill new business that's not on our buddy list?
5718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Do People Believe Bitcoin Will Replace Fiat? on: September 01, 2014, 04:21:44 PM
Fiat replacement will be the idea of the future and it will not be implemented in next 50 years.

As a financial tool it's been implemented already regardless of whether or not it's ready for prime time. People like to call Bitcoin an experiment but if that were true it should have been left in the lab instead of risking the money of the world on it and letting the market cap get this big. Bitcoin will never have the ability to replace fiat because government controlled money (paper, gold, sliver or donkeys) is about power not exchange. They might create a copycat that they can fake out the great beast into believing is the same thing but they will never adopt a truly free and open system that they can't control. I think it would almost take WWIII and the overthrow of the USA for Bitcoin to ever replace fiat.
5719  Other / Meta / Re: BadBear on: September 01, 2014, 04:11:34 PM
I just sent him a third message, and still no reply. Over a week....this is getting silly.

The issue is simple.

He moved my 60,000 view thread from the Marketplace section where it happily existed for one year.

He moved it into the Service Announcement section.

This is the wrong section for the thread.

All I want is to have the thread returned to where I want it, where the previous Admin had placed it, where my clients are used to viewing it, and to where it existed for one year before BadBear decided to become involved.

That's all.

It is a legit request, that I think at the very least deserves a reply considering the age, and view count of the thread.



Can you provide a link to the thread?
5720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Come discuss the Bit Drop, the plan to give every person on Caribbean Island BTC on: September 01, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
I have a friend that's planning a vacation there sometime next March. He is planning to stand on the street with a sign offering to buy the coins immediately for cash. He is going to offer 50% of the current value for the coins and give cash immediately to anyone that transfers them to his wallet. He's already set up two exchange accounts to deal with the coin. This fund is going to "drop" a lot of cash in my friends pocket. I wonder how much of it he'll be able to capture? lol
Probably a lot. In the past, people who received coins via air drops have more or less sold them as quickly as they can. Your friend could likely offer less then 50% as many people would likely not go through the hassle of setting up an account on an exchange just for $10

Yeah, he's a shyster. I met him at the Rotary Club ages ago. He owns a couple of pawn shops. Funny that his shyster ass (love you Doug  Kiss) is one of the few friends that I have that I was able to convince to use Bitcoin. We started talking about them giving away Bitcoins. He said those idiots won't know what to do with them and they'll probably just trash them. He was planning a vacation to Nassau next year anyway and he thought he would see if he could pay for part of his vacation.
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