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5721  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many accounts has Atlas made and why isn't he banned yet? on: November 10, 2011, 06:44:38 PM
If you don't recognize those sorts of implications, that makes you a scumbag.

What sort of reasons did he give you to terminate the relationship?
5722  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 10, 2011, 06:40:37 PM
I think it is best to keep the rigs and let SDM take over.

Eg just like SIN took over dishwara guy ? Now SIN taken over by SDM ?

I think this is all a giant conspiracy so that one company controls the mining monopoly Tongue

Actually the deal with dishwara fell through and we never actually got anything from them.

Keep in mind he'll be determining what the rigs are worth after we send them to him, as in, we have no idea and no control over what we would be getting in exchange for them.
The shareholders never got the specifics on exactly what equipment we own. We have no way to tell what deal we will be getting when we liquidate, or if shakaru's appraisal is accurate.

I want to know exactly what assets SIN holds. If you do not provide this information, I cannot fully trust anyone's appraisal, because I have no idea what is being appraised!
Which is exactly the reason I don't trust Tawsix... at ALL.  It'd be extremely easy to make a quick list of all of the hardware that is owned, but he refuses.  Why?  Probably because he's a scammer, and doesn't want to be caught not telling the whole truth.
5723  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many accounts has Atlas made and why isn't he banned yet? on: November 10, 2011, 06:39:10 PM
No, this is like me never giving you an iPad.

Affidavit of Truth:

I never gave him the domain. What I do with the domain is irrelevant. The fact I direct the domain to his server's IP is irrelevant. The relevant fact is the domain is rightfully mine and I never transferred it to him. I do not need to seek arbitration. I am innocent. I care not what this man feels and thinks about my property. He has no say and no claim on it. I am the judge here and the domain is my court.

The ruling: I am innocent.

I disagree.  If you say you will give it to him, then do not, then you are no better than any of the other scammers who frequent these forums.
I never said I would transfer it to him. Moot point.
So you're saying the following is a lie?

You really wanna go that direction? Excuse me while I go tell everyone who saw you give it to them in Skype while saying (paraphrased) "Still looking for a domain? You can have mine!" and then ran to go change the DNS (we trusted you at the time and didn't push the transfer issue), followed by the phrase (again, paraphrased) "I really love what you've done [to it]!".

It's paraphrased. All I can attest to is that I took my domain and pointed it towards his server and confirmed I did so. Nothing more and nothing less.
By pointing the domain to his server and telling him to use it, you implied that he would be able to use this domain for as long as you had it.  The reason that this implication can be made is because a domain is not something that a person can easily change without confusing their visitors.  In other words, a domain that may not be yours to use at any point in the future is worse than worthless.  And giving away something worse than worthless, while leading the other person to believe it holds value, is something only a scumbag would do.

Because you pointed your domain to his server, he built his intellectual property around it.

Because you have now redirected the domain to a different server, he has to recreate much of his intellectual property and brand name/image.

That makes you a scumbag.  You may have followed the letter of the law, but you sure as heck aren't following the spirit of it.
5724  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many accounts has Atlas made and why isn't he banned yet? on: November 10, 2011, 06:24:01 PM
No, this is like me never giving you an iPad.

Affidavit of Truth:

I never gave him the domain. What I do with the domain is irrelevant. The fact I direct the domain to his server's IP is irrelevant. The relevant fact is the domain is rightfully mine and I never transferred it to him. I do not need to seek arbitration. I am innocent. I care not what this man feels and thinks about my property. He has no say and no claim on it. I am the judge here and the domain is my court.

The ruling: I am innocent.

I disagree.  If you say you will give it to him, then do not, then you are no better than any of the other scammers who frequent these forums.
I never said I would transfer it to him. Moot point.
So you're saying the following is a lie?

You really wanna go that direction? Excuse me while I go tell everyone who saw you give it to them in Skype while saying (paraphrased) "Still looking for a domain? You can have mine!" and then ran to go change the DNS (we trusted you at the time and didn't push the transfer issue), followed by the phrase (again, paraphrased) "I really love what you've done [to it]!".
5725  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many accounts has Atlas made and why isn't he banned yet? on: November 10, 2011, 06:04:03 PM
No, this is like me never giving you an iPad.

Affidavit of Truth:

I never gave him the domain. What I do with the domain is irrelevant. The fact I direct the domain to his server's IP is irrelevant. The relevant fact is the domain is rightfully mine and I never transferred it to him. I do not need to seek arbitration. I am innocent. I care not what this man feels and thinks about my property. He has no say and no claim on it. I am the judge here and the domain is my court.

The ruling: I am innocent.

I disagree.  If you say you will give it to him, then do not, then you are no better than any of the other scammers who frequent these forums.
5726  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 10, 2011, 06:02:29 PM
I think it is best to keep the rigs and let SDM take over.

Eg just like SIN took over dishwara guy ? Now SIN taken over by SDM ?

I think this is all a giant conspiracy so that one company controls the mining monopoly Tongue

Actually the deal with dishwara fell through and we never actually got anything from them.

Keep in mind he'll be determining what the rigs are worth after we send them to him, as in, we have no idea and no control over what we would be getting in exchange for them.

All sin assets including Hardware, Website/hosting, GLBSE listing, or any other aspect of the opperations of SIN that could carry monitray value or assist in the operation in any way are to be transfered to SDM through the act of ABSORTBTION.

Once the assets have been transfered, they will be assesed and brought back online.
I trust him a lot more than I trust you at this point.
5727  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many accounts has Atlas made and why isn't he banned yet? on: November 10, 2011, 05:00:05 PM
Question:  How are you able to check the IP addresses of other users without being a moderator/admin of the forum?

I already explained that in the thread about theymos trying to take away signature images.
Got it - thanks.
5728  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many accounts has Atlas made and why isn't he banned yet? on: November 10, 2011, 04:49:18 PM
Question:  How are you able to check the IP addresses of other users without being a moderator/admin of the forum?
5729  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 10, 2011, 04:41:33 PM
just so everyone is clear what has been proposed by SDM is an absoprtion of all SIN assests, all equipment operational or otherwise as well as any information will be transfered from SIN to SDM and after relocation to a SDM location and evaluation/restoration(as needed) to operate as originally intended.
So we have two proposed options then:
1)  All rigs are sold for cash to whomever, and the cash is distributed to shareholders proportional to their LEGITIMATE shares.
2)  SDM takes over the mining operations by physically acquiring the rigs, though they are still owned by the shareholders.
5730  Other / Politics & Society / Re: when should you shoot a cop on: November 10, 2011, 04:38:52 PM
I think it's terrible that we cannot shoot criminals for theft.  If someone's stealing my car, why SHOULDN'T I be able to shoot them?

There'd be a heck of a lot less theft if people were actually able to defend their own property properly.

What do you meant you ain't able? You are fully able unless you are retarded. It's just that it's illegal and might get you in prison and rightly so because your life was never in danger. But sure enough you are able.
But why is it ok to just let someone run off with your things?  Why do I not have a right to do whatever I need to do to ensure my property isn't stolen?

Also related to this subject - why can a trespasser sue me if they trip over a rake that I left in my yard?  Just seems so wrong...

Then do what you believe is right and assume the responsibility don't try to make others consent.
Not sure what you mean by "don't try to make others consent".  Consent to what?
Consent on what seems right/wrong to you.
I wasn't really trying to force people into my viewpoint.  Just trying to understand why my viewpoint isn't held by others...
5731  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 10, 2011, 02:30:53 AM
As per the contract under which SIN was formed, I will be calling for a motion to wrap up and liquidate the company:

Quote
In the event of winding up of the organisation and liquidising of it's assets , after the payment of the organisations creditors,
the shareholders will be paid all remaining liquidity, divided equally among shares, such that one share entitles the holder
to a single share of liquidity.

I will announce when the motion is up, currently my client of GLBSE is out of date and I am waiting for Nefario to email me back with links to the updated files.  In the event of the motion passing, I will begin to sell SIN's assets and paying off the money to shareholders via GLBSE.
Let me guess - since you gave yourself half of the shares, despite not gaining that amount according to the contract you wrote, you expect to reap half the revenue from the liquidation?

He actually has more than half of the shares. Based on the first post, roughly 2000 IPO shares were sold. There are 10k shares in existance.

Liquidating based on total shares in existance would mean that he would be getting more than half.

If Tawsix had sold 2k shares, he should have had all but 2001 shares deleted from the SIN account.
Unissued shares don't count though.  He was going to issue shares to himself with half of the dividends given each month.  Then, midway through the contract period, he just decided that he was close enough (even though he was actually very far) and gave himself an equal number of shares as those that had been issued.  IIRC, he should only have around 350 shares so far.  But he gave himself the other 2700, despite the terms of the contract.

If he expects to get anything more than 350 shares worth of money out of the hardware, I'll fight it tooth and nail, and I hope the other shareholders will join me in that.
5732  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 10, 2011, 02:17:54 AM
As per the contract under which SIN was formed, I will be calling for a motion to wrap up and liquidate the company:

Quote
In the event of winding up of the organisation and liquidising of it's assets , after the payment of the organisations creditors,
the shareholders will be paid all remaining liquidity, divided equally among shares, such that one share entitles the holder
to a single share of liquidity.

I will announce when the motion is up, currently my client of GLBSE is out of date and I am waiting for Nefario to email me back with links to the updated files.  In the event of the motion passing, I will begin to sell SIN's assets and paying off the money to shareholders via GLBSE.
Let me guess - since you gave yourself half of the shares, despite not gaining that amount according to the contract you wrote, you expect to reap half the revenue from the liquidation?
5733  Other / Politics & Society / Re: when should you shoot a cop on: November 10, 2011, 01:53:18 AM
I think it's terrible that we cannot shoot criminals for theft.  If someone's stealing my car, why SHOULDN'T I be able to shoot them?

There'd be a heck of a lot less theft if people were actually able to defend their own property properly.

What do you meant you ain't able? You are fully able unless you are retarded. It's just that it's illegal and might get you in prison and rightly so because your life was never in danger. But sure enough you are able.
But why is it ok to just let someone run off with your things?  Why do I not have a right to do whatever I need to do to ensure my property isn't stolen?

Also related to this subject - why can a trespasser sue me if they trip over a rake that I left in my yard?  Just seems so wrong...

Then do what you believe is right and assume the responsibility don't try to make others consent.
Not sure what you mean by "don't try to make others consent".  Consent to what?
5734  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [PULL] private key and wallet export/import on: November 09, 2011, 11:43:00 PM
I would like functionality to actually see your private keys without additional software. Just using the main client. Is this possible now ?
That would be nice too... just so long as it requests your wallet encryption password for every private key request.
5735  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 09, 2011, 11:41:48 PM
Well TBH if shakaru invested more than $1000 into this then IMHO he deserves to be scammed. Has he actually met the OP in person ? Probably not. Shakaru, you should have donated your money to charity instead my friend. Greed was too much probably for him. Shakaru send over 1000 BTC and tomorrow I give you back 1200 BTC OK ?

Suggestion for scammer : run out of the country while you can. These nerds are coming to get you from their parents' basements.
Yeah, you're right.  We should just throw all want for justice out the window when those who "deserve to be scammed" get scammed.   Roll Eyes

Come on man.  Shakaru went out on a limb to fund a Bitcoin company, and you're saying he deserves to be scammed?  If that's the case, what are we all doing here anyway?  Why even try to make Bitcoin succeed when taking any risk means you deserve to be scammed?
5736  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [PULL] private key and wallet export/import on: November 09, 2011, 11:39:07 PM
Thanks for the update Gavin.  I'm not sure what you're referring to with "sweep private key", but the functionality I would like to see is (1) merge wallets, and (2) import private key.  Merge wallets is pretty self-explanatory. Importing private keys is needed to be able to "redeem" bitcoins from offline storage such as paper wallets or physical bitcoins. Rescanning the block chain and/or waiting for the rest of the block chain to download is slow, but it's inevitable. Have a progress bar with a note saying it may take a while, and let the user interact with the rest of the application while it's working.
Yes this.

Importing private keys is a must for things like offline storage of bitcoins, etc.  It may seem like most users just want merged wallets, but I know there's a bunch who need the ability to import private keys easily as well!
5737  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 09, 2011, 11:04:40 PM
So just to keep everyone informed, I own a good portion of the shares of SIN and for a good while too. I have sent out multiple request to Twsix or whatever his name is regarding a restructure plane, buyout plan, absorbtion plan and no response ever.
My last attemps at communication have been both from this fourm and email with the email attempts bounching back as failure to deliver. The contets of the last message outlined the laws broken including USC codes for illigal securities, securities fraud. Federal law regarding wire fraud and investor fraud, and California state codes regarding the same as the federal laws violated. If he does not contact and or restore service within 7 days (11/2 was the date of transmision) that I will take this to that level.
I have contacted the Legal@ email for his ISP after speaking with them over the phone on the matter and am in the middle of compiling all information on this fraud.
I will have more details when I can sit and write. I am in the middle of a move right now and things are still packed including my office.

Blah blah blah ...

Nobody cares about this because GLBSE is not legalized in any way, shape or form and has no legal grounding in the US justice system. Bet SIN did not file anything with the SEC, right ? For anybody in the justice system all this is just monopoly shares and monopoly money. You are not dealing with real legal tender or real regulated stock exchanges. Nobody cares. Move on. Thank you Mr. Scammer. Fools and their money ... IMHO you deserve to be scammed if you are this dumb to invest in some random Internet scammer.

Good luck shakaru ! Hope you get this high profile case on the 6 PM news very soon ! The world is watching. PM me if you need funds for the legal team Wink
Partnerships written on the back of paper napkins and via email have held up in court.  What makes you think a contract made through an unofficial exchange would be any different?  Of course, it won't have the same level of protections as an SEC-sanctioned stock exchange would, but a contract is a contract, and will be held up in court as long as it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused was the one who wrote it.

Well all I am saying is this : if you do get this guy in court then more power to you BUT I doubt any lawyer / judge will waste his time with a couple of dollars scammed. The legal fees > money you can get back RIGHT ?
I certainly wouldn't be suing him over my two shares by myself, but shakaru invested several thousand dollars worth of BTC by the sound of it.  That's something large enough that it couldn't even be settled in small claims court.
5738  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 09, 2011, 10:58:40 PM
So just to keep everyone informed, I own a good portion of the shares of SIN and for a good while too. I have sent out multiple request to Twsix or whatever his name is regarding a restructure plane, buyout plan, absorbtion plan and no response ever.
My last attemps at communication have been both from this fourm and email with the email attempts bounching back as failure to deliver. The contets of the last message outlined the laws broken including USC codes for illigal securities, securities fraud. Federal law regarding wire fraud and investor fraud, and California state codes regarding the same as the federal laws violated. If he does not contact and or restore service within 7 days (11/2 was the date of transmision) that I will take this to that level.
I have contacted the Legal@ email for his ISP after speaking with them over the phone on the matter and am in the middle of compiling all information on this fraud.
I will have more details when I can sit and write. I am in the middle of a move right now and things are still packed including my office.

Blah blah blah ...

Nobody cares about this because GLBSE is not legalized in any way, shape or form and has no legal grounding in the US justice system. Bet SIN did not file anything with the SEC, right ? For anybody in the justice system all this is just monopoly shares and monopoly money. You are not dealing with real legal tender or real regulated stock exchanges. Nobody cares. Move on. Thank you Mr. Scammer. Fools and their money ... IMHO you deserve to be scammed if you are this dumb to invest in some random Internet scammer.

Good luck shakaru ! Hope you get this high profile case on the 6 PM news very soon ! The world is watching. PM me if you need funds for the legal team Wink
Partnerships written on the back of paper napkins and via email have held up in court.  What makes you think a contract made through an unofficial exchange would be any different?  Of course, it won't have the same level of protections as an SEC-sanctioned stock exchange would, but a contract is a contract, and will be held up in court as long as it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused was the one who wrote it.
5739  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Photo hour - a bitcoin art project - now, get up to one bitcoin BOON on: November 09, 2011, 10:43:49 PM
You can take orders for free directly and then sell your photos on bittit.info too if that suits you. No fees at all and it's made for the purpose of selling pictures. The image will be visible in low res and users will pay to increase its resolution up to the maximum. You decide the price for the maximum resolution beforehand. Just make sure that you put the right price. For example if your picture at 1/5th of its resolution is still useful then you might consider putting a higher price for the max resolution.
I really like the idea of that site. Going to have to see what I can come up with...

Or you can bid in may auction, collect the bitcoin boon, give me a mission and sell the pictures you get on that site. In that way, you earn money while you earn money in addition to supporting both bittit, photo hour and the bitcoin community at large at the same time. That is like a win-win-win-win-win-win-situation.
I like this idea even better!
5740  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 09, 2011, 10:43:16 PM

Makes sense.  I was thinking that all the shareholders should have a say in the matter, but if Tawsix reserved the right to liquidate, I suppose that is his prerogative.

Was just pointing it out/asking why.

He does not have a right to liquidate and that is not the offer on the table.
The offer that was given and to be put before the share holders was the following.


All sin assets including Hardware, Website/hosting, GLBSE listing, or any other aspect of the opperations of SIN that could carry monitray value or assist in the operation in any way are to be transfered to SDM through the act of ABSORTBTION.

Once the assets have been transfered, they will be assesed and brought back online.

SDM will issue a new non-public ticker and exchange SDM.SIN shares for existing SIN shares to remove asset contact by Tawsix.

Opperation will continue to run under the authroity of SDM.

No offer of purchase was made on the hardware or SIN. In fact, when this matter comes to vote (I will bring it to vote my self if I have to) I have a 12% give/take share ownership in SIN and my vote will be to have the current opperation absorbed by SDM.

I am not sure about you, but I bought into this with the expectation of a fully opetaional mining farm, but due to the current management, my investment is without positive return, and now Tawsix is saying he will sell the hardware. If at any point Tawsix violates the contract he has issued through GLBSE, I will issue suit, win, and forclose on all hardware and assets currently held illigaly by Tawsix as all asset belongs to SIN.[/quote]
Interesting... thanks for giving the details.

I still have two shares which I still do not have access to.  But if/when I do regain access to them, I might consider trying to sell them.  Nefario said he could get me access back, but hasn't responded to my most recent emails.

Hopefully, this all works out well.  It's obvious Tawsix was not fit for running a company - I hope that you are better than him in that aspect.
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