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5721  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Get a grip. China is NOT 'banning' or 'rejecting' BTC, they're just making aware on: December 06, 2013, 03:44:57 PM
We don't need to get a grip.
I don't care about what China does! It will affect the price ? Maybe , Maybe not!

They won't affect the bitcoin model , and that is what matters!
5722  Other / Off-topic / Re: what happened to Fontas? on: December 06, 2013, 03:42:58 PM
maybe he was killed by satoshi.

Wait , Satoshi committing suicide?
5723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Im going nuts trying to find an exchange on: December 06, 2013, 03:41:18 PM
Im in EUROPE and I want to buy 1BTC before it becomes impossible. Do you think right now is the right time, or should I wait? I need 1BTC for psychological stability. Im also considering a couple LTC just for shits and giggles, but my main goal is get 1BTC. Having less than 1BTC feels like a joke. This deep depression of missing the boat can only find relief in looking at my wallet and seeing ONE BTC at least.

So i've been looking at the different exchanges: BTC-e right now has the best price to buy, but they ask you for ID and shit, just like Bitstamp. MTGox is shit for buying, too expensive, and no euros.
Kraken: These idiots aren't validating my tier2 level
Bitcoin.de: I don't know if this is legit, price seems decent. Any experiences?
Virwox: The quickest and easiest way, but the fees suck.
Localbitcoin: I don't trust this, too many scammers.

Please, just tell me what would be the best way to get 1BTC right now. I just don't like the idea of having my ID, bills and more information forever stored in a database related to Bitcoin. Isn't Bitcoin supossed to be anonymous? Because it's the same shit again if you have to give your data to exchanges, which could be seized anytime for no reason, and your shit would be there for them to see, and conveniently apply taxes on your ass when they feel like regulating stuff.

Bitcoins.de has some happy customers around here , I don't have personal experience with it.
You can go with localbitcoins if you find a trusted trader , there are lots of people there with over 100+ trades that won't risk their business name for 1 btc.
5724  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: i am coming again on: December 06, 2013, 03:28:53 PM
And we have the first chinese pope.
5725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Baidu no longer accepts bitcoin on: December 06, 2013, 03:22:09 PM
Well , Baidu as a company never accepted bitcoins.
And I doubt they even had any customers seeing the transactions on that address.
5726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2013, 03:00:27 PM
Not to stir up the China news again, but for those who attempted to flip off the news as bullish, I fear that may have been a bit optimistic.

From yomofo's post on reddit/bitcoin

China Telecom page from last week. (note the btc logo) http://bitcoinexaminer.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/sdgfgh.jpg

China Telecom page from today. (note the btc logo is now gone) http://js.189.cn/w2014


And also Baidu are no longer accepting bitcoin by the looks of it, whom where arguably the start of this Chinese rally.

Although the government statement did not specifically ban companys from utilizing bitcoin, the Chinese people and company CEO's have become very adept at reading between the lines of what their government say.

Still bullish?

It was stated before that the offer wasn't from China Telecom , but from a dealer.
Also , that's not the China Telecom webpage.

Ok thanks for pointing that out and completely ignoring the overall message!

Ok! To answer your question! Yeah! Still bullish.
5727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2013, 02:52:44 PM

Baidu are  no longer accepting bitcoin

please find a solid reference this is pretty major news.




Did they ever?
https://blockchain.info/address/1NtbQKVFxAPc8mmBoWwRzhg7o3EMCBsxNg
=))))
5728  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why most Bankers/people do not understand virtual currency on: December 06, 2013, 02:47:04 PM


Dude, I just made this account to post on here. .........
 Bitcoins won't be worth even $4,000 ever.


Quoted for future reference.
5729  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Switzerland to vote on $2,800 monthly ‘basic income’ for adults on: December 06, 2013, 02:43:50 PM
Yeah , right!
Like some laws can stop those people.
They've already reached Norway and Sweden , what do you think it will stop them from Switzerland?
How can you stop them without shooting them?

Norway and Sweden are welfare states and are part of the EU. They should abide by the European laws on immigration. They can't deport the gypsies.

On the other hand, Switzerland is not a part of the EU. It is an independent country, which can deport people illegally entering its territory.

Before we continue on this topic , where do you leave (name the country I don't need your address , not sending you any pizza Smiley and how much do you know about this gypsy community?
5730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
Not to stir up the China news again, but for those who attempted to flip off the news as bullish, I fear that may have been a bit optimistic.

From yomofo's post on reddit/bitcoin

China Telecom page from last week. (note the btc logo) http://bitcoinexaminer.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/sdgfgh.jpg

China Telecom page from today. (note the btc logo is now gone) http://js.189.cn/w2014


And also Baidu are no longer accepting bitcoin by the looks of it, whom where arguably the start of this Chinese rally.

Although the government statement did not specifically ban companys from utilizing bitcoin, the Chinese people and company CEO's have become very adept at reading between the lines of what their government say.

Still bullish?

It was stated before that the offer wasn't from China Telecom , but from a dealer.
Also , that's not the China Telecom webpage.
5731  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 360 seconds delay between 2 posts on: December 06, 2013, 02:38:31 PM
It gets better guys Tongue. I only have to wait 32 seconds.
How does it work!?  Huh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253190.msg2702160#msg2702160

Once you make 16 posts the timer drops down to 74 seconds.

It's activity , not posts.


Ok.  Thanks for clarifying.  So that means replies to posts too?
The activity number is determined in this way:
time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

Activity is updated every 30 minutes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0

5732  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why most Bankers/people do not understand virtual currency on: December 06, 2013, 02:36:35 PM
How much gold is in a game?  Let's take Diablo 3 for example as I played this one. Infinite supply!
People generate gold as long as they play.

Bitcoins?  only 21 mils , no matter how much you has , there will be no more.



It's not that simple. There are tons of other coins, and tons of other coins will continue to come out. There will be an infinite supply of coins. Bitcoins won't be worth hundreds of thousands of dollar ever simply because other coins will bring the price of Bitcoins down.

You really have to be truly ignorant to make a post that only looks at one coin. The correct way of reading virtual currency is context. So many people these days have no critical thinking skills and cannot understand the context of the situation.


In your case #L2Context and #L2BrainUpgrade.

Nice one newbie......but you have to be a lot more stupid to get on my ignore list from the start.

Everybody can build a coin , will that afect bitcoin?
We have thousands of coins right now and people invest in it only because they hope they will get rich with 1 scamcoin.
But in the actual world , you can do s*** with fpcoin,extracoin,quakcoin,momocoin.

It's use that drive the value up from a certain point.
Until now , all others coins have speculation behind them , nothing more.
That's why they die at such rate.

5733  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rest in peace... on: December 06, 2013, 02:28:07 PM
I made the mistake of going to the World Cup  there , I'm not going to that country even .... for bitcoins.
5734  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 360 seconds delay between 2 posts on: December 06, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
It gets better guys Tongue. I only have to wait 32 seconds.
How does it work!?  Huh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253190.msg2702160#msg2702160

Once you make 16 posts the timer drops down to 74 seconds.

It's activity , not posts.
5735  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why most Bankers/people do not understand virtual currency on: December 06, 2013, 02:21:04 PM
How much gold is in a game?  Let's take Diablo 3 for example as I played this one. Infinite supply!
People generate gold as long as they play.

Bitcoins?  only 21 mils , no matter how much you has , there will be no more.

5736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is the biggest reason stopping general public from converting to bitcoin. on: December 06, 2013, 01:58:12 PM
PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop feeding a known troll on this board!!!!

Look at it's previous posts!

but its so much fun  Cool

Only if you feed them with a shovel!
5737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Request: Satoshi, please send me a message via Bitcoin! on: December 06, 2013, 01:46:53 PM
Please sign a message to me via Bitcoin.
My address should be in my signature, and here:

There have been many rumors flying around regarding the identity of Satoshi, both due to the success of Bitcoin, and because people are worried that a person or group with such large holdings in the digital currency is staying hidden and is capable of crashing the value of Bitcoin at will.

I am simply curious. I would like to know why to stay hidden, what drove the power behind Bitcoin, and what are Satoshi's views of what happened with Bitcoin since it started? Did he/she/they anticipated all or some of what transpired so far? Was it in the "Masterplan"? and what is planned for the future?

I know it is a long shot, but I hope I can get some answers to at least a few of my questions.

Thanks in advance.

Nope , I'm not sending you anything.
5738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's the point of a 'fast' coin ? on: December 06, 2013, 01:45:53 PM
Clone coins bringing nothing new and claiming they are better that bitcoin with a faster block time and everybody should invest money to get the dev rich.
5739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is the biggest reason stopping general public from converting to bitcoin. on: December 06, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop feeding a known troll on this board!!!!

Look at it's previous posts!
5740  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Difficulty speculations by March 1 2014 on: December 06, 2013, 01:22:58 PM
There will be new hardware in the market between December and March, but after the 28nm and 20nm become standard, the old hardware will become obsolete, of the 7PH currently hashing, probably about 5PH will stop hashing soon because the electricity costs to keep them running will be too high.

On top of that, after difficulty has risen to a certain level, it will into rise exponentially anymore, at least not anywhere near the speed it did before, because the new hardware will not be as much of a leap in technology as GPU mining was compared to CPU and FPGA to GPU and ASIC to FPGA.

The new ASICs will not be several orders of magnitude better, therefore the difficulty after May or so will not increase with more than ~20% per month or so probably.


Please look at numbers before making such assumptions.
And if we cut 70% of the hashing rate wouldn't that make it profitable again for people that haven't sold their machines to mine again ?

It doesn't work that way.
Electricity cost are so low compared to the reward it's worth even now keeping your usb miner on. It's not worth buying one , but keeping one mining is.
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