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5741  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: April 03, 2015, 09:32:50 AM
I've read that they are backed by bitfury, but just wanted to confirm that. So then they are a separate company that could close the mining on various reasons and bitfury would not be responsible looks like.

Well, in theory, yes. But they do seem to be very professional. The website s great, they have invested a lot into marketing as well and I think they re here to stay.
5742  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hashnest 's newest PACMiC Cloud Mining Contract on: April 03, 2015, 09:31:12 AM
if PACMiC is backed by S5 maybe it's better to just buy S5 hashing there? how does the risk compares that PACMiC is more reliable (lower risk) ?

If you get S5, you can sell those and exit at any moment. On the other hand, PACMiC contracts do not charge maintenance fees so its almost guaranteed ROI. Lower compared to other miners but almost guaranteed.
5743  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Start mining ? on: April 03, 2015, 08:59:38 AM
I recommend mining to any and all "Bad Guys", however, I won't recommend it to all you "Good Guys."

What do you mean by this?  The main reason I recommend mining is based on electricity.

What he s saying it s not profitable and only bad guys should invest in it. I disagree, if you play it smart, constantly reinvest, you can probably get your ROI.
5744  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 10% BTC difficulty growth???? on: April 03, 2015, 08:58:16 AM
You re gonna get a hear attack if you follow diff on a daily basis. My suggestion s to set up a cloud mining account somewhere and reinvest 60% of your payouts. Your ROI s gonna be about a year but you should be able to reach it in theory. Also, only choose cloud mining services where you can exit the market in case you do not like the outcome.

While I haven't followed the cloud mining market closely, is there a cloud mining service that has lasted one year on which to test this theory? My general take on cloud mining is that there are two risks: One if the usual risk associated with mining Bitcoins no matter what. The 2nd risk is that the cloud mining service just goes "POOF" and you are left with nothing besides the Bitcoin you have presumably shipped off to your wallet every month or so.

I can only suggest Hashnest and Bit-x. If you need more help with any of these, do let me know.
5745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: admin at scrypt.cc hung me out to dry lost all BTC on: April 03, 2015, 08:56:33 AM
I m sorry for your loss but it s time you people learn not to play with scam websites. 60 days ROI? No photos, no existing miner which can support this, no transparency and you complain you got hacked?Huh
You would lose it one way or another.
After this site being up for over a year , earnings are realistic and paid on time  , never had a problem after with any deposits or withdrawals personally , everythi ng the admin has said he has done , sometimes after a little time delay , he is accessible and active and you still call it a scam , pictures can be fauxed so to me thats not a problem , if he is asked for info he gives it out and yes i have ROI there many times over !! Not many sites out there that can say they have done all that!!

Show me any existing scrypt miner of any company which produces Asic which can produce 200 days ROI. Not 60 days, but over 3x that, 200 days. KnC? No. Zeus No.
So what you tell me is some Brazilian website found a way to design a chip all these companies ve been unable to, to invest a few million USD in its manufacturing and then sell it to you without any reason?Huh

Wake up dude and control your greed. It s a scam and you people re gonna lose your money.
5746  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: April 03, 2015, 08:52:21 AM
I had a second thought and I would agree, I'm gonna invest in hashnest, cause genesis-mining does not have manufacturing business to lose if they close cloudmining and flee. What about this bit-x? They also produce miners? No miners on their page, they are separate company?

They have a deal with Bitfury and they use their infrastructure. If you do decide to invest in Hashnest, let me know what you need, I have some cloud miners to sell, via their exchange.
5747  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: "Known scammer Josh Garza of GAWMiners launched a Bitcoin exchange - Mineral" on: April 03, 2015, 08:50:12 AM
Really people are greedy, what he did not understand how the loss of the bitcoiners on previous fraud? He should be immediately arrested and jailed.

That s what I am surprised about. How is it possible he s not being persecuted yet. He s in the US after all and he promised people so many things he never deliver.
5748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: LTCgear.com, the best scrypt/scrypt n/X11 cloud mining service, Not paying!!! on: April 03, 2015, 07:30:10 AM
gaw told its customers that they will receive vouchers for those shitty defunct hashlets to be used at a next gen miners in some cloudmining company... But no company in good standing would want to be associated with them, so maybe they give vouchers for next gen ltcgear mining  Wink Cheesy Grin

Vouchers? Well, they ve introduces it all so far, every single piece of useless junk. Why not vouchers as well.
5749  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: April 03, 2015, 06:55:48 AM
Besides Bit X and Hashnest, I would not even consider touching any other cloud mining services. The key s who produces the miners, if there s no link with the manufacturer, I would pass on it.
5750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: admin at scrypt.cc hung me out to dry lost all BTC on: April 03, 2015, 06:39:17 AM
I m sorry for your loss but it s time you people learn not to play with scam websites. 60 days ROI? No photos, no existing miner which can support this, no transparency and you complain you got hacked?Huh
You would lose it one way or another.
5751  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain Antminer S6 and S7 Speculation on: April 03, 2015, 06:36:26 AM
We might see S6 somewhere in the second part of this year. S7, I highly doubt, not with these BTC prices.
5752  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 10% BTC difficulty growth???? on: April 03, 2015, 06:35:24 AM
You re gonna get a hear attack if you follow diff on a daily basis. My suggestion s to set up a cloud mining account somewhere and reinvest 60% of your payouts. Your ROI s gonna be about a year but you should be able to reach it in theory. Also, only choose cloud mining services where you can exit the market in case you do not like the outcome.
5753  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [ANN] BTC Cloud Mining - The-mining.com on: April 03, 2015, 06:31:41 AM
This website looks really unprofessional. 99.9% ponzi. No way anyone with such an amateurish website can actually run a farm. I suggest you people skip this or you ll probably lose your coins.
5754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: SeismicTKN Asset at NXT exchange. on: April 03, 2015, 06:30:01 AM
Do you actually have anything ready ATM? I see you seek for investors but you need to give us something before we invest. Quid pro quo.
5755  Economy / Securities / Re: Anything sustainable worth of investing? on: April 03, 2015, 06:28:03 AM
ok the only trustable guys I have found are www.bizingit.com they offer a messily 6.5% Per annum account, but interest is calculated daily so its really 6.95% per annum

but here's the kick in the guts the account minimum needs to be $5000 USD which is way to steep and they base the value and payment of interest of all accounts on the USD and not bitcoin which means if bitcoin skyrockets your left with a guaranteed 7% profit so theoretically you could lose bitcoins by investing with these guys  Shocked a good start but im sure others could do better

Yeah, really trustable guys. The domain expired a few days ago. Pls do not post this kind of junk anymore.
5756  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hashnest 's newest PACMiC Cloud Mining Contract on: April 03, 2015, 06:25:38 AM
I don't know, this is fine but I m not so excited about it. 22% per year in ideal conditions s an excellent profit but investing that into miners can generate much more. True, it also brings higher risk.
5757  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 03, 2015, 06:24:09 AM
They're excited for things that never happened

https://hashtalk.org/topic/35618/what-are-you-most-excited-about

YES!! I ve seen that. Hashbase?Huh? That one was promised 6 months ago and nothing. Why should anyone get excited about it?
5758  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Cloud Services legit? on: April 03, 2015, 06:22:23 AM
It all comes down to transparency. They do have an address and a phone as well as registration. However, I think someone stated that farm photo on their website s fake. I m sure you can find that thread somewhere.
5759  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Anyone who pays more then Bit Mixer? on: April 03, 2015, 06:20:34 AM
I would recommend Bit X. This is the most professional campaign I ve have been part of. There is a bot which counts the number of posts and you can know at any moment what are you current earnings, have your posts been approved or not.
5760  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you have a feeling BTC has slowed down a bit? on: April 03, 2015, 06:17:38 AM
Well it all comes to the BTC adoption rate. I simply cannot belive that 6 years into the game the market still cannot consume these couple thousands BTC produced every day. I do not believe early adopters dump a lot so this slowing down caused by the price drop which s caused by supply being over demand must be the reason behind the lack of faster BTC development.
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