Seriously I am interpreting all this and what I get is Bitfury KNC SP-Tech have not deployed much new gear or they are doing what I say every asic builder does.
That is take old gear that sucks power offline say a 1000 watt 2th machine gets replaced by a 600 watt 2.1th machine so that builder has a tiny bit more hash and way less power used. Thus profits rise.
The only thing I wonder is what is happening with this old gear? Seems like it would be good enough they would not want to trash it. I guess they might do upgrade kits as it's their own data center. It does make sense though that they would want the 1/2 power costs. It's all about being low cost at this point. If it was still profitable and they had the power and the room why would they take it out of service? That is unless you were Bitmain and you were selling 2nd hand miners.  Rich Only reason would be cost of building another data center. I imagine it takes a lot of guaranteed profit to open another one. And add employees it just get's more expensive. On Bitfury I wonder on upgrades as I don't see them messing with selling to public on gear. |
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Quick question - do you need to use some electrical tape to make sure it does not slip off the PSU connector? Or does it use the latch that is on the connector? It looks like some of them latch and some do not.
You can see above in one of the blue pictures of it. It has a spot that it latches on. So no electrical tape is need. It's a pretty quality product. It makes me think maybe I should switch some I currently have on paper clip. |
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Seriously I am interpreting all this and what I get is Bitfury KNC SP-Tech have not deployed much new gear or they are doing what I say every asic builder does.
That is take old gear that sucks power offline say a 1000 watt 2th machine gets replaced by a 600 watt 2.1th machine so that builder has a tiny bit more hash and way less power used. Thus profits rise.
The only thing I wonder is what is happening with this old gear? Seems like it would be good enough they would not want to trash it. I guess they might do upgrade kits as it's their own data center. It does make sense though that they would want the 1/2 power costs. It's all about being low cost at this point. |
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My reason for disrecommending the S7 is exactly that. Even in ideal mining condition, such as 0.05$/kWh ~ and 2-4% diff increase from now on, no more 5% and such, no pool fee and no BTC price plummeting, the S7 will not ROI by halving, at which point any profit after that is dubious at best.
We do not know what will happen at halving. Prices could go up or yes many miners will have to stop. We cannot say with any certainty this far away. One thing to keep in mind is the selling of the machines. Even if someone has higher electricity they can mine with it for quiet a while. S7 will still hold value at around having, they might have to sell to ROI. But with owning a newer miner the good thing is value is better. Look at SP20, S4 S5, Avalon 4.1 to show the trend of miner still having good value even though they are not the most current. |
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i am not an expert on power outlets but to me it sounds a little bit like a fire hazard
I do not see a big breaker at the top. So I'm hoping this is a subpanel. It's common in some apartments if they don't give them a lot of power. The main is somewhere else. I have 2 mains and 1 subpanal myself. One for mining area on main, other main is for house, and subpanal is where I mined before new area. But if it's a subpanal we can hope the main looks much cleaner, and is up to code. The main could trip and turn off entire subpanal. But guess we will have to wait till op comes back to know. |
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I think that is original, or very close to it. Dang your firmware is looking more and more impressive. Wish I would have known the difference in TPlink nanos about 6 months ago. I needed to extend range temporary and got 2 thinking I could use them after..... but mine is the one without usb. For others get the one with usb on it that is the one you want. not necessarily mr-3020, choose one from list, this is whole ar71xx platform http://pastebin.com/55i62pJQLooks like compac is supported too  Mine is N150's - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007PTCFFW?keywords=tplink%20nano&qid=1444379676&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1I think it is the most useless of the nano family sadly. They might be able to run it but only usb is power adapter. Unless there is a mod to add usb (which I will be honest I have not kept up on). But this is sparking my interests. |
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I think that is original, or very close to it. Dang your firmware is looking more and more impressive. Wish I would have known the difference in TPlink nanos about 6 months ago. I needed to extend range temporary and got 2 thinking I could use them after..... but mine is the one without usb. For others get the one with usb on it that is the one you want. |
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That's a good point, make sure it's not a 15A circuit. I tend to forget those even exist, but most of the places I've lived were either built or renovated by me or my family so everything was 12AWG 20A circuits minimum. The only circuits I've ever run heavy mining on I ran myself, even in the house before everything moved to the shop. If you're on a 120V 15A circuit I'd suggest running only one of those PSUs on it and find another circuit for the other one.
I also ran an S4 on an extension cord not long ago - well, an S4+. But it was an extension cord I made myself from some nice 12AWG, and it was plugged into a 208V outlet, so...
Thanks. I took a picture of my circuit breakers. Do the numbers on them mean anything to you? One of them says 15 on the handle. If that is a 15A circuit how do I safely turn my miners off and then test the circuits to see which one that is?  Do you live in a apartment? I'm wondering if that is a subpanal it's possibly looking like. When looking I don't see a major switch for entire thing a main normally has. Unless I'm missing it from the dust. If you are in a apartment go to landlord show that picture. I suspect it's just as dusty behind, I'm almost afraid what's behind. But if it is an apartment asking landlord to send a electrician to look at it and clean it up is needed. |
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31 hours, no errors, continue testing, made some adjustment to firmware, and porting antminer s5 interface to it, stay tuned  Thank you for sharing! I have one a day it seems on zombie on regular comp. That is already pretty impressive. Are you powering with brick that came with it or any special like pcie to power adapters on the U3? |
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-0.64% is real time number! amazing
Hell yeah! 3 months of only positive diff, time for a negative?  Could it be bitmain shipping off some S7 batch 1's before weekend? If they did this it would save them from compensation. Still amazed some people are waiting on batch one. I'm hoping batch 2-3 does not shoot up a lot when they go to. Good thing is amount focused on antrouter as it is so little of hash. We know some are getting shipped: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1165628.msg12640702#msg12640702 |
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The outlet is probably rated for 15A. Whether that's 15A total or per socket I'm not sure. But 1000W and 750W on a 120V circuit is 14.6A. If you assume 90% efficiency it's 16.2A. Mind you that's at full output power. If you're not running them close to rated load, your AC draw is substantially less.
If you trust the wiring and you're not pushing the PSUs, probably okay. If it's an old crusty socket and you want to run full-tilt, not so much.
Trusting the wiring is something important. If you have crap wiring that is a lot of power to put through it. Wire can get hot if not right gauge. I only made this mistake once in my "newbie" day's used a extension cord with a S4. Seemed like decent quality never had a issue with it the wire got so warm it was hot to the touch and much longer it would have melted. Ever since I check wire. Do you have access to the circuit breaker to see amps on breaker? Also do you know quality of job of wiring? |
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The thing I dislike about the Bitmain version is the exposed solder joints on the back. I wonder if they can short if they touch something conductive. Either way though, I will have the Bitmain version that I ordered and Cablez version.
I would agree bitmain have a beautiful switch. But if I could design it I would have no exposed joints. I have my cords pretty organized, but if that would ever hit metal on back it would not be good. |
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I've been tried it, and i used it for long time, i used USA's VPN i can earn much there, USA have a lot of videos and simple task to complete it but unfortunatelly they banned me after that i registered again with my own ip i still earn bitcoin there although is not much like usa member.
Ahh, that sucks. Look for local jobs around you and just use the money to buy BTC, . actaually iam a student,so far being a freelancer on internet is a good choice for me right now i think CPA its good than GPT site,we can earn much money like GPT owners,anyway i've been looking for the CPA company that accept bitcoin as payment but i did not find, most of them using paypal,payoner and wire transfer as payment The thing I always wondered was why some don't have a more even payment. It's common US is highest. Some other countries I think should be pretty close. Some I can understand are much different and less pay. But only problem with VPN is others could be using it for same sites. If they get 2 from same IP some GPT sites will do not nice things to accounts. So I would not allow it to get to high before cashing out. |
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itop_james you need to remove one quote in your post so it does not appear to be from someone else. Ill post quote below right to help. But I suggest changing yours when you have time: Below is the correct shipping information for antminer R1:
Sigapore Post $10.79
HK DHL $19.09
EMS $23.19
UPS $26.74
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If they are going to 'compensate' us with crappy $100 off coupons, they can all shove it up their rears..  I for sure as heck will never buy from them anything again. I have a strong feeling it will be 100 off. If they do over I will be pretty surprised. The only hope is they don't do one of them, they give you a handful that you might be able to sell and recoop some. But I doubt anyone will be happy with compensation. This could be part of why they have not announced it yet. If they want to be horrible they would release a crap offer on a Friday late knowing they have weekend to not hear complaints. |
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Night bitwisdom looks not bad at all:
Bitcoin Difficulty: 60,813,224,039
Estimated Next Difficulty: 62,172,827,360 (+2.24%)
Adjust time: After 934 Blocks, About 6.5 days
Hashrate(?): 427,186,774 GH/s
I am afraid of the next few weeks how many S7's come online. That will be interesting.
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8.216 BTC Pay:8.216 BTC
Confirm:8.216 BTC Paid
Unshipped
Valid 2015-09-02 07:40:43.0
what will be the comepensation a nice juice coupon?
I'm thinking pretty good chance on coupon. Not sure how nice and juicy it will be. I would hope after they made you guys wait so long it is pretty nice. But knowing it's a business not sure what to expect to see. Now I'm almost rooting for my orders to NOT get shipped by the 10th so that I would be eligible for compensation. On the other hand the total lack of communication about these delays and hashrate issues doesn't inspire much confidence. The bright side is that the decision to not buy Batch 2/3 is rather easy now What r you talking about? Seems we bought batch 2/3 with our batch 1 purchase! Still no movement on my 17 units  Wow 17 units to one person is pretty insane to be late on. They should give you one heck of a coupon. But knowing them I predict you get 17x smaller coupons. I hope i'm wrong though. |
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To be fair, someone in Canada with 3KW to spare also isn't really the target customer. I have nothing against Canda, but filling 3KW with 80W pod miners doesn't seem terribly practical. I mean that's fine; if you pay for 'em and I can get the materials together I'll build 'em. But I'm looking more at people who want entry-level, who don't want the size of an S3 or the noise (and expense) of an S5. Comparing this to an S5 makes some sense in that they're in the same efficiency class, but they're not in the same use-case class, power class, size class or really much else.
I don't think your pod fit the entry-level miner to familiarize themselves with bitcoin either. I would recommend the sidehack stick for that. It doesn't make any noise, is cheap, cheap to run and doesnt take any space. If you target the few people, only in the US, who want to run a single one next to their router for fun, learning and well just having one little miner that isin't meant to be ROI'd. Then sure that could be your target, which would work if you only plan on making a handful of these. Because as purely a recycling small scale plan, this would only be for US customers; Ffor one pod or two, and i ship you a dead board. And then i pay for shipping back, that would be more money than just buying a S3 and undervolting it, getting same efficiency range and more hash and more hash/$. Its totally okay if that is not your plan, but then i can't tell if its feasible. Sadly this is the world of asics. Some countries make it harder to be a customer then others. US to US is as bout as simple as it gets. And shipping as long as it does not weight a ton can be done at a decent price. I think on recycle US will make most sense unless you find some great shipping rates in canada or other places. The pod is still in the category of past pods, and U3 I believe. So comparing it and S3 are apples and oranges. And sidehacks will be much more efficient then S3 and funner to play with. I would not knock scale. I think there is a decent amount of loyal customers sidehack and novak have made, including myself. Sidehack is right if your looking to fill 3000 k watts you honestly are looking for a bigger miner. I cant imagine 3k watts of any pod at this point. Why? Filling 2 breaker with this is only 20~ units. The builder himself designing them said 3000 watt filler is not what they are meant for on target audience. For one reason if there are a limited amount of these selling 20 to one person chances are is a lot of them. And you really do not want to mine with 20 devices when you have an option for 1 or 2. If your just trying to fill up 3k make your life easier and get a S5 or S7. But these pods will be a ton of fun to play with I already want one. I think I have an addiction. |
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And you took a amazing looking product to perfect!. That is a awesome button and love that even has a light. Very nicely done. |
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3 per 15A breaker will trip. If it's a 20A breaker, he'll be alright, but won't be able to run much of anything else on that same circuit. Could probably run a decent LED TV and a lamp or two  You're right I just checked the S5 wattage it is higher than I had thought, if hes running 20amp he'll be fine, he could underclock the s5 to 500w each and run all 3 on a 15amp breaker and have ~200w to spare, this would give him led lights, clocks, and what not. The 15A breaker are designed to run at less than 12A continuous you won't have 200w to spare you'll be 60-120watts over limit for "continuous load" = over 3 hours. It would then be very likely to trip over any little thing. If you're lucky it wont cause a fire, too. I have breakers who randomly tripped because they were at 13A~ A less sensitive breaker might of burnt out. Proper power bar will tell you that the circuit is overloaded as well. If you have actual 120v you should limit yourself to 1400-1440. Many have less however, the range is 110v-120v. I think we are over speculating on OP's living situations as a small unit with very few breakers, he may be able to push 2 units on 3 and 1 unit by itself. I'm wondering apartment. Lots of apartments are not really great on how much electricity you get as landlord likes cheap electricity bills if its' included in rent (most don't include in rent but some do). Owning is nice it allows much more options. Specifically if you pan to have it with a plan plan you pick. For me i have around 300 amps together for everything, 100 amps just for mining. And no one can say no but the electricity company and they are happy to sell you as much as you can use. |
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